rbedsole Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 What about the files that are seperated in the right panel but in the same mod like below: RealisticWaterTwo.espRealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmtooth.espChesko_WearableLantern.espFNIS.espBetterDarkBrotherhood.espSkyrimImmersiveCreatures - DLC2.espDynamicMerchants.espSkyrim Tycoon - Reloaded.espCrimson Tide - Blood.espChemistry.espSOTGenesisMod.espGenesis Dragonborn Patch.espCorpse_Preparation.espAtlas Legendary.espRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp The Realistic Water Two esp's above along with RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.espRealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp which are a bit farther down in the load order are all under the same modUse First posy on the top Sorry I'm a little confused just to make sure everything is clear for both of us to my understanding you told me to:1. Sort load order with LOOT2. Put SKSE, PapyrusUtil and Grimy Plugin at the top of the load order in the left pane3. Then adjust mods in left pane to mirror load order in the right pane. If that's right then the problem is the realistic water two esps are in the mod realistic water two but the esps are seperated by esps from different mods in the right pane but grouped together in the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMartyr Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Yes that right, please check if the game starts with the Steam Launcher with no mods, if it starts ok use the Console to close ~ qqq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbedsole Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 *Repeatedly bangs head against wall* Well I got in game to the character creation screen but other than the UI everything is black I can't see my character or anything plus it seems when I hit any key on my keyboard the game crashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMartyr Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Try using Steam to see if the Game starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbedsole Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 yes it starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMartyr Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Ok I think there is a miss understanding, when I say Steam I mean Vanilla Skyrim, Not use the Steam with MO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbedsole Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 you mean start skyrim from steam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMartyr Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) Yes Edited September 27, 2016 by PeterMartyr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbedsole Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 right that's what i did starts fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMartyr Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Try Selective Startup disable mods in blocks of tens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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