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[ZeroCore]

I put this in the spoilers section because I'm not terribly sure by now if everyone who has played Skyrim has met Sheogorath in it yet.

 

 

All I can say is that I'm glad that he is in it. Sheogorath was one of my favorite characters in Oblivion, and for a multitude of reasons:

 

1: he was funny to talk to, and always seemed in an upbeat mood.

 

2: HE. WAS. BRILLIANT. He kept the Shivering Isles working, albeit chaotically, but working none the less. He seemed happy to talk to his subjects and those whom he employed and generally seemed to have a good sense of humor, a trait that in real-world leaders is valued. His statements, however crazy or random they may have seemed, always had a bit of a poetic edge to them; you could put them in a poetic sense and have it make, well... sense.

 

3: Well... he just seemed like a like-able character and a good ruler (not to mention a powerful immortal being).

 

 

I was sad when I found out you had to replace/fight him at the end of the Shivering Isles in Oblivion. It really did make me laugh when I saw Sheogorath again in Skyrim. Of course, we all think now it's not the original Sheogorath; IT'S YOUR CHARACTER FROM OBLIVION WHO TRULY BECAME THE MAD GOD, or so the general lore says these days (which is probably the case).

 

Some say that it IS the original Sheogorath once again and that Jyggylag turned back into Sheogorath again, but I find this a bit sketchy to be honest, or that it's just a memory of Sheogorath in Pelagius' mind (which wouldn't explain how you got the Wabbajack in Skyrim if it WAS just a hallucinating ghost).

 

Either way, it was certainly good to see the Daedric prince of madness again. Sheogorath seemed to be a personification of the phrase "the difference between madness and genius is degrees of success". Sheogorath seemed like a very successful ruler to me, he statements seemed poetic if not a bit weird, and his personality seemed like someone who was easy to get along with and always in a good mood.

 

On top of that, in Skyrim Sheogorath's tasks inside of Pelagius' mind HAD A MORAL TO THEM, or at least one that I could see (spoilers here for those who haven't done that quest) :

 

1: When you go to Pelagius overseeing a battle of two Daedra, you have an option of using the Wabbajack to change the Daedra, or change the guards next to Pelagius into Daedra. Here's the moral behind it; don't get so focused on one thing that you forget about something else that's very important.

 

2: When you deal with Pelagius' bad dreams and memories. You use the Wabbajack on the personifications of Pelagius' bad dreams and change it into a celebration around a lively bonfire. In short, when you have a bad dream, thought, or see something scary, just put it in your mind and twist it into something funny (giggle at the ghostly, if you want to take the advice of a certain pink equine).

 

3: When you deal with Pelagius' lack of self-esteem and his self-hate dominating his personality. When you go to offer support to someone, you can't just try to bolster their self-confidence, you need to ALSO chip away, or give them reason to chip away, at their self-doubt. Don't just tell them to get over it; you need to show them why they're better than their self-doubt.

 

Sheogorath taught a few morals behind this quest in a very indirect way. It seems that Sheogorath isn't just a bit weird, he's wise, friendly, and somewhat helpful, if not a bit chaotic. In short, the prince of madness might be unpredictable, but he's a lot more intelligent than he seems, and a better ruler than most would take him for.

 

It's just good to see that daedra again. ^^

[LobselVith66]

 

Some say that it IS the original Sheogorath once again and that Jyggylag turned back into Sheogorath again, but I find this a bit sketchy to be honest, or that it's just a memory of Sheogorath in Pelagius' mind (which wouldn't explain how you got the Wabbajack in Skyrim if it WAS just a hallucinating ghost).

 

Why would Jyggalag return to the Shivering Isles when he's gained his freedom, given that he knows what happens if he successfully gains back the throne of the Isles? I don't understand that - he was cursed to try to regain the throne back from Sheogorath, but he was freed, which is why he acknowledges that he's free to roam the waters of Oblivion when he's defeated by the Champion of Cyrodiil - the new Madgod. Not to mention Sheogorath references witnessing Martin's transformation into a Dragon, which is clearly supposed to indicate that he is the Champion of Cyrodiil. And he provided the Dragonborn with a daedric artifact.

 

 

Sheogorath taught a few morals behind this quest in a very indirect way. It seems that Sheogorath isn't just a bit weird, he's wise, friendly, and somewhat helpful, if not a bit chaotic. In short, the prince of madness might be unpredictable, but he's a lot more intelligent than he seems, and a better ruler than most would take him for.

 

It's just good to see that daedra again. ^^

 

 

I thought it was interesting that Shegorath tasked the Dragonborn with "restoring" Pelagius' sanity (if he was ever sane to begin with). The task seems to illustrate that he's different than his precedessor, who wanted the prior protagonists to fight a Bull Netch with a small fork, and rained burning dogs on a town for amusement.

[justwannaddl]

I thought it was interesting that Shegorath tasked the Dragonborn with "restoring" Pelagius' sanity (if he was ever sane to begin with). The task seems to illustrate that he's different than his precedessor, who wanted the prior protagonists to fight a Bull Netch with a small fork, and rained burning dogs on a town for amusement.

 

I found the mission perplexing too. I kept waiting for an "AH-HAH!" moment where Sheogorath would toss out some twisted reasoning for treating Pelagius. I guess he really was on vacation.