Mythic Dawn armour causing CTD

[JimmyBlonde79]

Hi,

 

I'm having a problem when NPC's summon the Mythic Dawn armor which is causing a CTD. I'm not using any mods that enable first person use of the armor or any that modify it, that I know of.

 

Does anybody have any idea what might be the problem?

 

My load order:

 

 

 

Active Mod Files:

00 Oblivion.esm

01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.0]

02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]

05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]

06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.5.5b4]

07 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]

08 bookplacing.esm

09 CM Partners.esm

0A HorseCombatMaster.esm

0B bookplacing.esp

0C TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp

0D nVidia Black Screen Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]

0E Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]

0F UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]

10 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

11 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

12 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

13 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

14 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

15 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]

16 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

17 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

18 All Natural.esp [Version 1.0]

19 Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp [Version 0.7]

1A All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.0]

++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]

1B Streamline 3.1.esp

1C Enhanced Hotkeys.esp [Version 1.4]

1D EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

1E Hentai_Juliet_Uniform.esp

1F LC-Compilation-Exnem.esp

20 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]

21 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]

22 CSR - Fine Iron.esp

23 FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]

24 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

25 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]

26 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

27 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

28 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

29 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2A Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2B Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2C Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2D Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp [Version 3.7b1]

2E Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2F Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp [Version 3.7b1]

30 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

31 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

32 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

33 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

34 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

35 Mart's Monster Mod - Durzog Addon.esp [Version 0.10]

36 Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

37 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

38 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

39 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

3A FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]

3B FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9]

3C FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]

3D Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

3E Fransfemale.esp

3F OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]

40 EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp

41 EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp

42 EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp

43 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

44 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]

45 Natural Hunger v2_1 by QF.esp

46 Mighty Magick - Core.esp [Version 1.2]

47 Mighty Magick - Skills.esp [Version 1.2]

48 Mighty Magick - Magicka Pool Progression.esp [Version 1.2]

49 Mighty Magick - Side Effects.esp [Version 1.2]

4A Mighty Magick - Sigil Stones.esp [Version 1.2]

4B Mighty Magick - Restore Magicka Potions [Vanilla].esp [Version 1.2]

4C Mighty Magick - Restore Magicka Potions [OOO].esp [Version 1.2]

4D Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 2.5x damage.esp

4E DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

4F SexyWitchPoses.esp

50 Woman's Move.esp

51 Woman's Move - Animation Replacer.esp

++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76]

++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp [Version 0.76]

52 CM Partners.esp

53 Beautiful People.esp

54 Ren_Soya_KD's.esp

55 _Ren_BeautyPack_full + Soya's hair.esp

56 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

57 CM Partners More NPCs.esp

58 EVE_KhajiitFix.esp

59 Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52]

5A KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

5B Francesco's 7 days respawn time - 1-12 day lenght rescale.esp

5C FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]

** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.0]

5D Bashed Patch, 0.esp

5E DesuChan's Dolls (Non-SI).esp

 

 

[Keirgarth]

I would start by disabling beautiful people, and all the eve stock equipment replacers to see if that does anything for you. If you still have the issue, the perhaps disable Mighty Magic. BTW your version of Might Magic, is it the Reborn version or the normal? If it is the normal then try and change over to the Reborn version to see if that helps out.

[JimmyBlonde79]

I'm using Mighty Magicka Reborn so that should be okay.

 

I'm pretty sure that you are correct on this but the problem is that simply disabling these mods doesn't seem to have any effect, at least un-checking them in Wrye-Bash does nothing.

 

I only installed beautiful people because TNR was giving me headaches with googly eyes and I needed the meshes&textures from it to solve that issue. Perhaps unchecking BP and the EVE stuff and rebuilding the bashed patch might do it, hopefully.

 

Thanks for the idea.

[JimmyBlonde79]

No luck with any of that I'm afraid. I disabled EVE replacers, Mighty Magicka, TNR, BP, and my HGEC body and it still made no difference. Something in there changed the way that Oblivion was loading the Mythic Dawn armor mesh itself which could not be changed by disabling those mods and rebuilding the bashed patch. The problem is certainly with one of the above since I began a new game before installing those and it ran fine in the tutorial but it can't be fixed through Wrye Bash.

 

I don't have enough knowledge about the mechanics of modding to be able to try anything else so I'm re-installing but I will test and post the cause when I find it for future reference since it's a *censored* of an issue to solve.

[Nephenee13]

Err...delete the mesh and replace it with something else? If its the mesh thats the problem, just...replace it. Stick a steel cuirass in there or something, see if it still happens.

[Striker879]

When you disable a mod but don't uninstall the resources (meshes, textures and sounds) the game will still load and use those resources if they share the same path as the vanilla equivalent. The game will just consider the disabled mods resources as replacers. Disable and uninstall is the drill.

[JimmyBlonde79]

Thanks for the advice guys. I tried replacing the armor with the stock stuff (meshes and textures) from the Oblivion vanilla BSA but to no avail.

 

It was almost certainly one of the EVE replacers causing the problem but I can't replicate it so goodness only knows what the specific cause was. Anyway, I have everything working fine now (until the next SNAFU). Except for Deadly Reflex giving me a missing mesh balloon for decapitated Mythic Dawn assassins, lmao, those guys are more trouble in mods than they are in the game but I think I can solve this one.

 

Thanks again.

[JimmyBlonde79]

Just had an idea on this issue.

 

What if what I had wasn't a mod-conflict at all but an .ini file issue? In particular, specular occlusion? Just a thought, I've had similar issues before after tweaking my .ini file.

 

If anyone has the same problem in future if might be worth restoring their .ini to default.