Afterlife of this game makes no sense

[marharth]

Since people are still asking this question (there has been like ten threads about where your soul goes) I will post my other text from before.

 

To make a list here.

 

1. Sithis is more powerful then any Daedra or Aedra. Your soul will go to the void above all else. Sithis is part of the creation of the entire universe. He is far more powerful then anyone you will ever directly meet in game.

 

2. Daedra have more power over mortals then Aedra due to the creation. I am pretty sure your soul will go to any Daedric prince before any Aedra god. Daedric princes would likely aurge over who gets your soul, or simply the one you served most will get your soul. Since the nightengale quest line is one of the biggest ones I am assuming you will go to Nocturnel if you do the thieves guild and not do the DB stuff.

 

3. As said above, the Aedra are in many ways weaker then Daedra. Aedra had to pretty much sacrifice most of their power to create Mundus. They have very little control over what goes on in the mortal world, while Daedra do. That and Aedra CAN die if killed. Daedra can not die. Ever. Since Soverngarde has a direct connection to Talos, it is a Aedric realm. You would go to Soverngarde if you did not help Sithis, or any Daedra. For those who do not know, the eight divines where part of the creation and were Aedra. Talos later became the ninth divine, but was not part of the creation. For any Thalmor out there, Talos is without question a divine. At the end of the Oblivion quest you got his blood to counter the Daedra artifact. If he did not become a Aedra the portal would not of worked.

 

4. If you serve no one at all, as said above you do have a Aedric soul (Dragons are probably Aedra since they are immortal unless killed, and have a mastery of time and other god like things. That and Tiber Septim got his soul from Akatosh, it can only be assumed all dragons come directly from Akatosh and due to that are Aedra.) My guess is that you would just go to Soverngarde or another Aedraic realm.

 

TL;DR It is likely that since a werewolf soul goes to a Daedra, it would override soverngarde.

[Matth85]

1) Sithis - gets your soul in the end anyways.

2) Daedra - They like to toy with mortals. Of course they would want your soul!

3) Aatosh - I get a feeling he would have something to say here.

4) Sovengarde - or whatever.

5) Any other Aedra - They are not as strong. They also care very little for the mortals as of now.

 

I believe that is a nice little list how the soul would go. If you served none, you'd go to soverngarge, then the void. If you served everything, I believe the dadreas and Akatosh would have a race to get you first, where the Dadreas would probably get you first. They it would depend who wants you more, not who you served the most. I know that certain Dadreic Princes would love a big soul to toy with.

 

Though I feel it is wrong to name "Sithis". He he not a god, but a force/entity. You go to the Void, not to Sithis. Eh...

 

1. Sithis is more powerful then any Daedra or Aedra. Your soul will go to the void above all else. Sithis is part of the creation of the entire universe. He is far more powerful then anyone you will ever directly meet in game.

 

Sithis is 1 of the 2 who created everything. He is the father of the Daedras. He could be classified as a "God", an invisible force that noboy can see. I see Sithis as a force over a being. Something that got a single purpose, but a purpose no mortal or immortal being got anything to say in. A timeless thing.

[MagusShade]

If every1 and everything goes to Sithis in the end, then why do the other daedra even make these deals?

 

Hircine: "I will give you the power of a werewolf, but in return, you must serve me in your afterlife for all eternity, as a wolf in my hunting grounds"

 

Dovahkiin: "But i thought sithis got all the deads?"

 

Hircine: "Oh...well i guess thats probably why there isn't a single wolf in my hunting grounds.."

[marharth]

If every1 and everything goes to Sithis in the end, then why do the other daedra even make these deals?

 

Hircine: "I will give you the power of a werewolf, but in return, you must serve me in your afterlife for all eternity, as a wolf in my hunting grounds"

 

Dovahkiin: "But i thought sithis got all the deads?"

 

Hircine: "Oh...well i guess thats probably why there isn't a single wolf in my hunting grounds.."

The end is a far ways away. Its not entirely sure when the "end" will even happen.

 

Also I would consider sithis a being over a force, he has directly interacted with people before.

 

Also Soverngarde is a Aedra realm, so that should still be in the same place as the Aedra stuff. Soverngarde is directly linked to Talos.

 

Your soul will go directly to sithis if you served him above all else. In the end Aedra and Daedra will probably die off so your soul has to go to Sithis.

[Matth85]

Because Sithis doesn't care. Because they can have a trillion years of fun with your soul.

Sithis doesn't want you, he want change. He is the void. You will go to the void at one point, wether that is a trillion year from the death of your character, or a day. Sithis is timeless, the Dadreas are not. Even the immortal can die at one point. They are named immortal by mortals. They are not immortal if something stronger decides they should be gone.

[MagusShade]

Well, theres still a conflict between who gets your soul before Sithis.

 

For the Dark Brotherhood quest I didn't join them, i killed ALL of them. Screw sithis.

 

But i did pledge my after life to Nocturnal AND Hircine... awkwaaard ;)

[Matth85]

Not really a big conflict. The strongest dadrea you pissed off/Server will get you first, then it moves down. After that I believe Akatosh might send his regards, and if you are a Nord Sovengard is open for you.

 

Who is the stronger Dadreic Prince of Nocturnal and Hircine I do not know, but one is always stronger.

[justwannaddl]

After the Oblivion crisis, I do believe the argument that daedra are more powerful than Aedra should be revisited. Akatosh's avatar was definitely more powerful than Mehrunes Dagon. A more accurate interpretation would probably be that power levels vary but the Aedra's power is largely invested in maintaining Mundus, limiting their ability to directly involve themselves in mortal affairs. In contrast deadra can put all their power into directly meddling with mortals.

[Lachdonin]

The Daedra are definately more powerful, one on one, than the Aedra. Dagon was at a dissadvantage in his fight against the avatar of Akatosh for two reasons. First, it is Akatosh which maintains the barriers between mundus and Oblivion, and as such is the most likely to be able to throw a Daedric Prince out. Second, the proximity of the White Gold Tower, which its self acts as a focal point of the energy seperating Mundus from Oblivion. Had the fight taken place further from White Gold Tower, Dagon would probably have won, especially with the barrier as weak as it was.

 

Second, Sovengarde is NOT aligned with Talos. It is a creation of Shor, also known as Lorkhan, and thus belongs to a dead Aedra (Though Mankar Cameron makes a good arguement for him being a Daedra). It also seems to be seperated from the normal dynamic in which souls eventually pass on to Sithis. One has to wonder what a dead god, who is by all appearances evil (His heart favored its power to evil over good, after all) wants with an internal repository for the souls of the greatest Nordic warriors in the history of creation...

 

For the Dark Brotherhood quest I didn't join them, i killed ALL of them. Screw sithis.

 

Even in that act you do Sithis's will. A world without the Dark Brotherhood is a rather large change, this a great boon to Sithis.