I wish I had never even installed the SSE

[phantompally76]

In my misguided zeal to get more than 18 fps out of the SSE, I've managed to undo a lot of the tweaks I have made to the original game (stuttering every five seconds, flickering mountains, etc.). I don't know how changing SSE ini files would have done that, but it has. And I am not happy.

 

I know there's a lot of jumping on the "It was free, so you should stfu and be grateful" bandwagon right now, but the way I see it, there was absolutely nothing free about the SSE. In fact, it may very well cost me my continued interest in the hobby. I spent way too many hours getting the original game to run smoothly. I just don't think I have the stomach to duplicate that trial and error process all over again. And I'll be damned if I'm going to play the SSE on the lowest settings for no more than 25 fps. So now I have a choice between "stability" or "performance".

 

I was more than prepared to sink with the "Oldrim" ship. But as it stands, that option has seemingly been taken away from me. And while I have only myself to blame....I don't have to like it. So dismiss and ridicule away, I guess. But if the fanbois get to voice their blind praise, then I also get to voice my displeasure.

[FrankFamily]

Everyone is forgetting 2 benefits sse has brought:

 

1) having a "will you port this to skyrim special edition" comment at the top of every single skyrim mod: => very useful for authors that forget sse exist and users about topost the exact same thing.

 

2) having countless threads complaining about sse, meticulously analyzing the pros and cons and informing what can or cant be ported => who doesnt love to read random people complaining? A touch of drama is good for everyone.

[SPH1]

Since SSE is in a different common/Skyrim folder than the original it is hard to see how SSE could mess-up your original game...unless you were "tweaking" further up in the system. You did not mention everything you did to the original...or SSE...but it sounds like you have messed-up both games. Not SSE's fault.

[phantompally76]

@SPH1,

 

I didn't touch the original game ini files in any way, shape of form. Nor did I mess with my video card settings. All I did was turn off vsync, and lowered a few other settings in the SSE's ini files. I can't explain how that could affect the original game either. But it did.

 

And I really do want you to know that your incessant shilling for the SE is every bit as annoying as my incessant condemnation of it must be to you. I mean, I understand you're excited about it because you happen to be one of the ones in which the SSE actually runs smoothly. Good for you. Just try to keep in mind that's not true for at least 40% of the community, whom you'll never hear from, because they understand a lot better than I do how pointless it is to complain in an echo chamber.

[TeofaTsavo]

I also wish I had not downloaded.. for a different reason. I've also spent a lot of time with my Skyrim mod list. It is stable, pretty, and I'm happy with it. It runs great on my machine as I have tweaked what I want to see at HD and removed high quality from things I don't care about...

 

And now SSE, whose claim to "better" is the very type of cheesy visuals I got rid of.. and a dubious promise of eternal bliss at 64 bit, which I've heard before... in a version that didn't even bother to address the myriad of bugs already documented and fixed by the USKP stalwarts.

 

At the "small" cost of replacing my entire setup to run it. My 5 year old quad core is apparently junk, in spite of it being used on a ton of games, GW2 included. I expected to have to have a better card.. but no. My entire system would have to be replaced. I guess it's a good thing 360 users didn't get hit by this "pffft.. upgrade ur old crap" mentality.

 

What I regret is having the "if you can't afford to PC game, gtfo" feeling, which I am sure will be echoed here, as it has on many forums, where every response from some is "Get a new comp", and Devs apparently working in a vacuum of "evryone dun got hi spec current gen everting".

 

The huge jump in min reqs was a shock considering the lackluster previews I saw.. and we all know min reqs won't cut it. My old comp is High-Med for the old game and I've tweaked it to a higher level visually. I guess I didn't expect not being able to run SSE at all.

 

And I will agree.. the incessant shilling by "experts" with a week of a basically unmodded game experience is pretty nauseating.. but not unexpected. Particularly the claims that SSE vanilla, now, today, is better than modded Legendary edition will ever be.

 

I will upgrade when I can. Hard on limited Income SSA..but I will. But.. not for SSE. Something else will come along that may prove to be worth the cost. SSE? No.

Edited November 2, 2016 by TeofaTsavo

[phantompally76]

I have already uninstalled the SSE. To hell with it. I'd rather spend another 5 years tweaking the original game to get rid of z fighting, shadow striping, screen tearing and stuttering ALL OVER AGAIN than play an "optimized" game at a steady fifteen frames per second.

[repusDude]

Sorry to hear that you have problem with sse. Good to know. I haven't install mine yet. I probably will wait until they release more stable version of sse.

[SPH1]

Sorry to hear that you have problem with sse. Good to know. I haven't install mine yet. I probably will wait until they release more stable version of sse.

Fair enough if you don't yet even wish to try SSE. But since they act as two separate games I still cannot see why simply installing SSE would mess-up the original. Is this the only thread with this complaint? And thus far in my SSE testing...trying to keep installing more and more mods to see the performance...my SSE seems very stable. The main SSE complaints I see center around, 1. the new visuals and 2. lack of familiar mods.

Edited November 2, 2016 by SPH1

[AlarictheVisgoth]

I also wish I had not downloaded.. for a different reason. I've also spent a lot of time with my Skyrim mod list. It is stable, pretty, and I'm happy with it. It runs great on my machine as I have tweaked what I want to see at HD and removed high quality from things I don't care about...

 

And now SSE, whose claim to "better" is the very type of cheesy visuals I got rid of.. and a dubious promise of eternal bliss at 64 bit, which I've heard before... in a version that didn't even bother to address the myriad of bugs already documented and fixed by the USKP stalwarts.

 

At the "small" cost of replacing my entire setup to run it. My 5 year old quad core is apparently junk, in spite of it being used on a ton of games, GW2 included. I expected to have to have a better card.. but no. My entire system would have to be replaced. I guess it's a good thing 360 users didn't get hit by this "pffft.. upgrade ur old crap" mentality.

 

What I regret is having the "if you can't afford to PC game, gtfo" feeling, which I am sure will be echoed here, as it has on many forums, where every response from some is "Get a new comp", and Devs apparently working in a vacuum of "evryone dun got hi spec current gen everting".

 

The huge jump in min reqs was a shock considering the lackluster previews I saw.. and we all know min reqs won't cut it. My old comp is High-Med for the old game and I've tweaked it to a higher level visually. I guess I didn't expect not being able to run SSE at all.

 

And I will agree.. the incessant shilling by "experts" with a week of a basically unmodded game experience is pretty nauseating.. but not unexpected. Particularly the claims that SSE vanilla, now, today, is better than modded Legendary edition will ever be.

 

I will upgrade when I can. Hard on limited Income SSA..but I will. But.. not for SSE. Something else will come along that may prove to be worth the cost. SSE? No.

 

Like the OP, didn't you watch the Youtube reviews that sprouted up within minutes of SSE going live? Quite a few high profile Vloggers got the opportunity to play it early. And so had some very convenient walkthroughs/reviews within the first couple of hours of SSE unlocking. The 3 immediate things that stopped me dead in my tracks from ever wasting the time to install SSE are still:

 

1. The graphics. Despite the god rays and slightly lusher flora, there are quite a few areas in game (especially when viewed from afar into the distance) which are still the fugly red headed visuals they were in vanilla Skyrim. Current ENB series to date either rival or supercede the graphics I've seen on the web to date

 

2. The game breaking BUGS and glitches were NOT addressed. Guess Beth decided to take full advantage of Arthmoor's free generosity for yet another round :laugh:

 

3. The major critical mod/game utility & most popular mods the likes of skse, skyUI, ENB etc etc. will take a while before migrating over. Assuming some of these do migrate because their original authors are retired/MIA from the Nexus modding scene.

 

4. Nothing is broken with my current outdated, 32 bit Skyrim game to date. So I don't plan on fixing it by migrating any time soon.

 

So there SSE sits. All alone in my Steam library gaining cyberdust indefinitely.........

[TeofaTsavo]

 

I also wish I had not downloaded.. for a different reason. I've also spent a lot of time with my Skyrim mod list. It is stable, pretty, and I'm happy with it. It runs great on my machine as I have tweaked what I want to see at HD and removed high quality from things I don't care about...

 

And now SSE, whose claim to "better" is the very type of cheesy visuals I got rid of.. and a dubious promise of eternal bliss at 64 bit, which I've heard before... in a version that didn't even bother to address the myriad of bugs already documented and fixed by the USKP stalwarts.

 

At the "small" cost of replacing my entire setup to run it. My 5 year old quad core is apparently junk, in spite of it being used on a ton of games, GW2 included. I expected to have to have a better card.. but no. My entire system would have to be replaced. I guess it's a good thing 360 users didn't get hit by this "pffft.. upgrade ur old crap" mentality.

 

What I regret is having the "if you can't afford to PC game, gtfo" feeling, which I am sure will be echoed here, as it has on many forums, where every response from some is "Get a new comp", and Devs apparently working in a vacuum of "evryone dun got hi spec current gen everting".

 

The huge jump in min reqs was a shock considering the lackluster previews I saw.. and we all know min reqs won't cut it. My old comp is High-Med for the old game and I've tweaked it to a higher level visually. I guess I didn't expect not being able to run SSE at all.

 

And I will agree.. the incessant shilling by "experts" with a week of a basically unmodded game experience is pretty nauseating.. but not unexpected. Particularly the claims that SSE vanilla, now, today, is better than modded Legendary edition will ever be.

 

I will upgrade when I can. Hard on limited Income SSA..but I will. But.. not for SSE. Something else will come along that may prove to be worth the cost. SSE? No.

 

Like the OP, didn't you watch the Youtube reviews that sprouted up within minutes of SSE going live? Quite a few high profile Vloggers got the opportunity to play it early. And so had some very convenient walkthroughs/reviews within the first couple of hours of SSE unlocking. The 3 immediate things that stopped me dead in my tracks from ever wasting the time to install SSE are still:

 

1. The graphics. Despite the god rays and slightly lusher flora, there are quite a few areas in game (especially when viewed from afar into the distance) which are still the fugly red headed visuals they were in vanilla Skyrim. Current ENB series to date either rival or supercede the graphics I've seen on the web to date

 

2. The game breaking BUGS and glitches were NOT addressed. Guess Beth decided to take full advantage of Arthmoor's free generosity for yet another round :laugh:

 

3. The major critical mod/game utility & most popular mods the likes of skse, skyUI, ENB etc etc. will take a while before migrating over. Assuming some of these do migrate because their original authors are retired/MIA from the Nexus modding scene.

 

4. Nothing is broken with my current outdated, 32 bit Skyrim game to date. So I don't plan on fixing it by migrating any time soon.

 

So there SSE sits. All alone in my Steam library gaining cyberdust indefinitely.........

 

I did watch many previews pre release and was unimpressed. I didn't even dL it for a couple of days but finally decided it was unfair to dismiss it without even trying it, which turned out to be futile. From the few non biased reviews I was very unimpressed that they simply sized up original vanilla textures. Not a fan of God rays, cheesed FOV, or of the vaseline smeared lens approach. I thought that perhaps 64bit would be a positive. Overall, I feel it is VERY weak "remaster" that simply isn't worth the considerable jump in hardware specifications.

 

Also, as I did state, rather puzzled that they did not patch the game, as AFK's team had identified and fixed a massive number of mistakes, a ready to use asset Beth could have negotiated for.

 

Don't know why you rebutted my post, since we are basically in agreement, except my SSE is sitting in a folder on my Potato PC Race hard drive, since I have been demoted.

Edited November 3, 2016 by TeofaTsavo