Advice for computer parts

[iXenite]

You probably should have just used Speccy to identify the parts in your rig, would have saved you a lot of time. With that said, it is most certainly time for a full system upgrade. I have a feeling you're probably running something like 4GB of system RAM. Just a gut feeling. With that said, at this point I think even keeping the case isn't really worth it anymore. It's probably best to just treat yourself. If you're still working on a budget, or would prefer to, here is a budget focused build. You could change the RX 460 4GB to a GTX 1050 Ti for more performance if you wanted for a little bit more money. Either choice will outperform your current rig by quite a lot.

 

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI H110M Gaming Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($62.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($39.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 460 4GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($46.97 @ Newegg)
Total: $500.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-20 14:56 EST-0500

 

 

 

Also, here is a link to Speccy.

 

Speccy:

https://www.piriform.com/speccy

Edited November 20, 2016 by DaddyDirection

[mgrandy]

The fx 9570 - 9370 require a high tdp motherboard these are going to be £130 +

 

I think from memory there is only 11 -20 boards out at the moment that support this due to its high temp

 

Is your processed socket fm2 or am2/3 I'm guessing is the same as mine fm2

If this is the case you a) need to upgrade your bios first and for most this will let you support the latist CPU for that board which you can check on the manufactures website

 

Bios upgrades are generally a easy exe install take mins

 

CPU I'm guessing but max supported for that board would be and a10 6800k which is a quad core (exact as mine ) which is a great processor and I have mine sitting at over clocked 6.3 GHz so that's 4x6.3 GHz process power at £90 these CPU is a steal considering Intel is 10x the price for less GHz

 

I once explained it to some one as imagine a car

amd has top speed 150mph

Intel has top of 100 mph

Amd takes 15 secs to get to that top speed

Intel only takes 10 secs

 

So in the long run buy amd as more bang for buck

Don't mind wasting a few quid hit an intel but mind only the best would do with intel as at higher and clock speeds these will easy out power a low rated intel

 

need help or advice on a system I've been building for 20 years

 

If was me I would screw Intel's £400 CPU get amd a10 6800k some nice water cooling and all the basics for roughly half of that but then you arnt good with PC so maybe a plug and play intel would more suit your needs saves heavy over clocks which you won't need yet anyway as kicks out 4.4ghz standard (amd a10) but the choice is yours

 

Programs to get the information you need are

Cpu-z this will tell you all about your PC Google it get the board code look it up see what socket it is buy a processor and plug in

 

Recommend any amd with water cooling these things run hot but power consumption ain't my concern overall power is ;-) need any more info hit me up with a message

[mgrandy]

Now graphics cards come in all shapes and sizes really with a budget of £1000 even dollars any setup should give good frame rates

 

What your looking for in graphics cards is cuda cores /ram /speed

 

Say let's make one up the new nivida 10000

 

This has 1600 cuda cores (amount of data per tick)

Ram would be DDR 5 10gbs (how much data it can hold)

Speed of the ram in MHz say 2000 (max speed at which it can be transfered )

 

Now let's say nivida 10001

 

This has 1700 cuda cores

Ram is DDR 3 10gbs

And the speed is 1000

 

The above (10001) might seem better as its a 01 but yet its only got ddr3 which runs at a slower speed

So would perform worse even though it had more cuda cores the mistake most make

 

Me I would of took the ddr5 in a heart beat and just clocked the sucker seen as how now you can get it a fraction of the price of the 01 model

 

Anything above 750ti or radion HD 8670 is going to be more than ample tbh depending on which and how much ram is involved etc

 

I had the choice 4gbs DDR 5 with less cores or pay 50 more and get half the ram just doesn't make sense so I went with the 4gbs ddr5

 

I would rather the power was there than not having and needing an extra 2gbs ddr5 as GTA v runs almost 3.7 gbs of my 4gbs card at max settings

 

PS don't waste your time with an i3 duel core as the only difference between that and yours is hyper threading (speed of transfer) if you want a 5 sec faster boot up go right ahead and waste good coins

Edited January 4, 2017 by mgrandy

[mgrandy]

You probably should have just used Speccy to identify the parts in your rig, would have saved you a lot of time. With that said, it is most certainly time for a full system upgrade. I have a feeling you're probably running something like 4GB of system RAM. Just a gut feeling. With that said, at this point I think even keeping the case isn't really worth it anymore. It's probably best to just treat yourself. If you're still working on a budget, or would prefer to, here is a budget focused build. You could change the RX 460 4GB to a GTX 1050 Ti for more performance if you wanted for a little bit more money. Either choice will outperform your current rig by quite a lot.ÃÂ

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core ProcessorÃÂ ($104.99 @ Newegg)Motherboard: MSI H110M Gaming Micro ATX LGA1151 MotherboardÃÂ ($62.89 @ OutletPC)Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 MemoryÃÂ ($67.99 @ Newegg)Storage: ADATA Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State DriveÃÂ ($39.98 @ NCIX US)Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard DriveÃÂ ($48.89 @ OutletPC)Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 460 4GB WINDFORCE OC Video CardÃÂ ($89.99 @ Newegg)Case: Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower CaseÃÂ ($38.99 @ Newegg)Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power SupplyÃÂ ($46.97 @ Newegg)Total: $500.69Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-20 14:56 EST-0500

ÃÂ Also, here is a link to Speccy.ÃÂ Speccy:https://www.piriform.com/speccy

Best laugh I've had in awhile where did you get your degree ;-) kellogs jks zero water cooling so 3.7x2 is going to be your max granted it will get to 100 mph quicker bit you may as well just buy a good water cooler for what there suggesting and upgrade everything else save yourself 50 quid or put that into a full size tower also the build you have is a budget build. you just do not know how to use it properly over clocked this would probs out perform the i3 with the same card anyway good luck on your build

 

an old discussion detailing all the facts i have just stated https://forums.daybreakgames.com/ps2/index.php?threads/checking-for-a-good-computer-for-play-ps2.243492/page-2#post-3433294

Edited January 4, 2017 by mgrandy

[iXenite]

 

Best laugh I've had in awhile where did you get your degree ;-) kellogs jks zero water cooling so 3.7x2 is going to be your max granted it will get to 100 mph quicker bit you may as well just buy a good water cooler for what there suggesting and upgrade everything else save yourself 50 quid or put that into a full size tower also the build you have is a budget build. you just do not know how to use it properly over clocked this would probs out perform the i3 with the same card anyway good luck on your build

 

an old discussion detailing all the facts i have just stated https://forums.daybreakgames.com/ps2/index.php?threads/checking-for-a-good-computer-for-play-ps2.243492/page-2#post-3433294

 

 

I'll assume English isn't your first language because your posts don't make a whole lot of sense. Not trying to be mean, just saying. If I recall correctly the OP's mobo didn't support FX processors, which means they were stuck with AMD's decrepit line of CPUs. Though the FX processors are also ancient, and unless you have a massive overclock on them, are worthless in comparison to even a modern i3 (like the i3 6100 I mentioned) in applications that do not require four cores. It really is a a waste in my opinion to invest in the AMD FX line of CPUs at this point. Why invest in expensive water cooling equipment just to make a bad CPU less bad? Just my opinion.

[L3s7ing]

I would also recommend to wait for the new Zen-Series now... I'm not sure in which range they will be playing but definitely more near the intel ones. ces should reveal some about that.

So it would be better to either go with Zen or Intel, the old amd architecture isn't quite modern anymore in my opinion.

Just my advise if switching the motherboard would be an option.

Edited January 5, 2017 by L3s7ing

[doctorzero0]

I leave for a couple weeks, come back for more opinions. Eh, it's all good.

 

Anyway, I'm already talking to my sister about your suggestions, so I really appreciate the feedback. Getting computer parts is never easy.