Angbot Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 (edited) No, I don't want tutorials and stuff I can look up on Google. What I want is to be able to discuss a WIP integrated realistic economy / item weight overhaul mod, balanced for use with things like Morrowloot and Scarcity. Run numbers past people, get opinions, maybe source price/weight/historical data I haven't been able to find myself. I've got as far as retooling all the vanilla armor/clothing/jewelry (minus maybe two dozen unique items), compatible with the unofficial patch, and putting together some equations to get ballpark price/weight estimates for large swathes of it so updates, tweaks and additions will be easy(er) to implement. What I'm getting out is broadly matching up to real weights and prices for 1300AD+ that I've been able to find, using steel plate as a sort of baseline. Before I charge ahead with the rest of the items I'd like to get opinions on the figures I have. This is a brief sample, not a complete list. (Weights in lb, prices in pennys (d). For affordability estimates, 1 days wage for a laborer assumed to be 2d, a fine horse assumed to be 10L (2400d) - these are very rough) Armors FurWeight est 7-8Price Est 30 (1/2 month's wage)Hide / Imperial LightWeight est 7-8Price Est 32 (1/2 month's wage)LeatherWeight est 7-8Price Est 44 (2/3 month's wage)ChitinWeight est 10-11Price Est 78 (just over 1 month's wage)FalmerWeight est 17-21Price Est 166 (nearly 3 month's wages)IronWeight est 27-35Price Est 802 (a year's wages) ElvenWeight est 7.3Price Est 874 (15 month's wages) Imperial Weight est 22Price Est 1286 (nearly 2 year's wages) Steel Weight est 27-36Price Est 1729 (over 2 year's wages)BonemoldWeight est 18Price Est 2071 (nearly 3 year's wages)GlassWeight est 7.2Price Est 4621 (6 1/2 year's wages)OrcishWeight est 36Price Est 5997 (8 year's wages, or 2 fine horses)Nordic CarvedWeight est 27-36Price Est 24000 (33 year's wages, 10 fine horses)Stalhrim (light)Weight est 8.5Price Est 41500 (more than a lifetime's wages, 20 fine horses)DwarvenWeight est 63Price Est 87000 (more than a lifetime's wages, 36 fine horses)EbonyWeight est 115Price Est 580000 (more than a lifetime's wages, 250 fine horses) Jewelry Silver NecklaceWeight est 0.07Price Est 20 (half a month's wages) Gold NecklaceWeight est 0.15Price Est 240 (half a year's wages) Silver RingWeight est 0.1Price Est 26 (half a month's wages) Gold RingWeight est 0.19Price Est 320 (half a year's wages) Clothes are extremely variable in price by quality, but weigh 3-6 pounds. You can get a simple outfit for about shilling (12d), or 6d if you're poor. Boots/shoes cost similar. A reasonably fine robe might cost 1L. At the other end of the scale, fashionable noble clothes come out at 50L. The variability and price range of clothing is currently limited however as I@m dealing with vanilla assets only. The core of these price/weight estimates lies in the materials - density and value per pound. (cloth and gems are priced and weighted seperately) Material Av Density Density Basis Value Raw lb/in3 d/lbBonemold 0.04 Bone/Amber 140Chaurus Chitin 0.075 Bone 8Chitin 0.06 Chitin / Calcium Carbonate 8Copper 0.32 Copper 40Dragon Bone 0.07 Bone 10000Dragonscale 0.06 Chitin / Calcium Carbonate 10000Dwarven 0.3 Brass / Bronze 1000Ebony 0.33 4675Glass 0.01 Obsidian 3000Gold 0.7 Gold 4000Iron 0.28 Iron 24Jade 0.12 jade 60Leather 0.027 6 oz Leather 3.8Moonstone 0.02 Aluminium 350Oricalc 0.28 Steel 200Silver 0.38 Silver 325Stalhrim 0.1268068 diamond 10000Stalhrim Light 0.034 Ice 10000Steel 0.28 Steel 50Wood 0.0173611 pine 4 Yes, 90% of these prices have been pulled cout of my ass. Iron, leather and wood(timber) have been sourced. Gold and silver aren't fully sourced but based on derivation and educated guess. Everything else needs sourcing and/or work. And of course there are various fantasy materials at work (including "glass"/"malachite", "ebony" and "moonstone" - I work on the assumption these have nothing to do with their real-world namesakes. Depending on how seriously you take smithing recipies, Tamriel "steel" may also be included in this...) Edited November 11, 2016 by Angbot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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