cheech790 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) Hey, I've got a FPS problem with my New Vegas installation. I used the same mods before just not with an ENBseries and got 30 FPS with my old AMD HD 6850. [system] Intel XEON 1341 @ 3,5-4GHZ (comparable to an i7 4790k), Win 10 8GB RAM, Nvidia GTX 1070 (8GB version) Nevertheless even turning off the enb series doesn't get me any additional FPS and I just can't figure out why I have 21-23 FPS with my machine with and without the enb. I also use NVSE, FNV4GB and the stutter remover (NVSR), NVAC and this ENB. Here is my mod list: http://pastebin.com/5Fe82VKg [X] = Active Edited November 14, 2016 by cheech790 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubiousintent Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) 1. How did you "turn off" the ENBSeries? 2. Start reading here in the "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide on a series of issues related to ENB and it's configuration, including FPS drops. 3. Did you implement ENBoost? If not, check out this entry in "Mod Conflict" guide. 4. Win10 has a known problem with accessing video memory above 4GB. It's a driver issue and everyone is still waiting to see if they will fix it. Make sure you are using the "Sheson memory patch" and possibly others listed here in the "Mod conflict" guide. Also, heed the warning there about NVSR "heap replacement" and test it. -Dubious- Edited November 14, 2016 by dubiousintent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethreon Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Remove these [X] Mission Mojave - Ultimate Edition.esp[X] Better Game Performance.esp Get NVACGet NVSR. Perhaps get EnBoost, but only after testing with NVAC and NVSR. NV is run on an older engine, doesn't matter how much of beast you have, it can only use part of the resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech790 Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) 1. How did you "turn off" the ENBSeries?I just used Shift+F12, I guess that's wrong? 2. Start reading here in the "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide on a series of issues related to ENB and it's configuration, including FPS drops. 3. Did you implement ENBoost? If not, check out this entry in "Mod Conflict" guide.Thanks for the tip, just did this a few minutes ago, unfortunately it hasn't improved my fps. I followed this guide. 4. Win10 has a known problem with accessing video memory above 4GB. It's a driver issue and everyone is still waiting to see if they will fix it. Make sure you are using the "Sheson memory patch" and possibly others listed here in the "Mod conflict" guide. Also, heed the warning there about NVSR "heap replacement" and test it.I've looked that up but i don't understand what "SKSE" is, can I use this with FNV? Or can I just add the Sheson memory patch to my enb directly? -Dubious- Remove these [X] Mission Mojave - Ultimate Edition.esp[X] Better Game Performance.esp Get NVACGet NVSR. Perhaps get EnBoost, but only after testing with NVAC and NVSR. NV is run on an older engine, doesn't matter how much of beast you have, it can only use part of the resources. Already tried this and I have NVAC and NVSR (stutter remover, right?), i'll update my post. Edited November 14, 2016 by cheech790 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethreon Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 "4. Win10 has a known problem with accessing video memory above 4GB. It's a driver issue and everyone is still waiting to see if they will fix it. Make sure you are using the "Sheson memory patch" and possibly others listed here in the "Mod conflict" guide. Also, heed the warning there about NVSR "heap replacement" and test it." There is no memory patch for NV, that's skyrim. For NV we use NVSR and NVAC. Doesn't matter if nVidia fixes that, NV cannot access more than 3.5gb anyway (nor can skyrim for that matter). OP, does your game still stutter without mods? You can try to disable all mods, check your content via steam and check around to see how the game behaves. Also, Win10 can be an issue due to MS making older games harder to play cause why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech790 Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) OP, does your game still stutter without mods? You can try to disable all mods, check your content via steam and check around to see how the game behaves. Also, Win10 can be an issue due to MS making older games harder to play cause why not.Yes, I did. Still the same problem (didn't reinstall the game though because it was a hassle to get my backup working again and is therefore not really an option). I noticed that even in the menu I get only 21-25 FPS. Edited November 14, 2016 by cheech790 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethreon Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Then your game hates Win10. OR the other way around more likely. The usual mods to solve this are NVSR and NVSE with heap replacement (there are 6 or more options, you'd have to test and see which heap replacement works for you). NVSR has a variety of settings too, I'd have to look into mine to see what I use. I assume there is no possibility of win7/8 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech790 Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) I've set now "ReservedMemorySizeMb= to 5" and got 2 more frames out of it, now I'm getting 23-24 frames. And I don't think Win 10 hates the game necessarily, because on my previous setup which was also on Win 10 the game worked with 30 FPS. Edited November 15, 2016 by cheech790 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubiousintent Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) It's not clear if "disabling" ENB by using the <Shift+F12> combo negates the FPS hit. If you didn't perform a FPS check before installing ENB so you have a point of comparison, then suggest you try completely uninstalling it and test without mods if possible. The author of ENB has publicly stated he doesn't have Win10, acknowledges it has problems in that environment, has no plans to upgrade, and is unable to troubleshoot problems under that version. So you may be stuck with either living with that FPS hit, or without ENB until that situation changes. Just to clarify: the "Sheson memory patch" is to the NVSE heap size; the Win10 driver issue is with DX9 compatibility rather than video cards, ENBoost is providing additional object geometry rendering space from system RAM beyond that assigned to the game, and video card memory is under the control of the more recent card's GPU and not directly addressed by Windows. (The GPU "lies" to the OS when necessary using virtual memory techniques.) So the 3.5GB effective max for 32-bit games doesn't apply in that instance. So, those are all possibilities to affect performance, but not for certain. Edit: "SKSE" is the "Skyrim Script Extender". The NVSE version instructions are here as "Solution-1a". -Dubious- Edited November 15, 2016 by dubiousintent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech790 Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 Deleted everything ENB related a few moments ago. Doesn't give me one additional frame, it seems irrelevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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