Sort of disappointed in Modding community

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Yes but no everyone is that into it and don't know the first thing about modding but compared to NV and Skyrim its disappointing

Do you pay us for the things we create or the time we spend on mods? No. So don't complain or tell us that mods have been "slow".

 

No I don't but that doesn't make it not open to criticism plus it has been slow and I doubt anyone would argue with me on that and I am not complaining

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I would be frankly embarassed to make such a post

Why its fair criticism

 

Then you are equally of a jerk and furthermore, ignorant.

 

No I am not what he is saying isn't wrong the mods are slow and theirs little to no variety which is correct plus insulting me isn't an argument

 

 

Right, but modders aren't a select race blessed with unique talents unattainable by mere mortals. Anyone can open up an editor and start making changes. People who complain that they want different offerings should look into making those things themselves. A lot (if not most) of us started that way. We wanted something no one else was making, or we wanted it done in a different way and went to work figuring out how to make it happen. What we didn't do was go around complaining that someone else wasn't making what we wanted and blaming them for not providing those things.

 

Yes but no everyone is that into it and don't know the first thing about modding but compared to NV and Skyrim its disappointing

 

 

So learn how to mod and make your own content? It's only disappointing because there aren't enough modders interested in modding the things you'd like to see in game. There's a solution for that. If players that wanted content and were disappointed with what's available started building what they wanted to see then they could share it and there would be more content. Players unwilling to apply themselves to create content are the problem here. Not the existing modders who work on what they are interested in creating.

 

As I said before I am not that into it. would I like too? sure but I don't know how

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So learn how to mod and make your own content? It's only disappointing because there aren't enough modders interested in modding the things you'd like to see in game. There's a solution for that. If players that wanted content and were disappointed with what's available started building what they wanted to see then they could share it and there would be more content. Players unwilling to apply themselves to create content are the problem here. Not the existing modders who work on what they are interested in creating.

 

 

 

To reiterate what llamaRCA said, "Many hands make light work." If we had as many people as Skyrim or Skyrim Special Edition digging in and getting interested in creating tutorials and mods there would be more content. I wished more people would say "How do I make this idea?" than stating their complaints or wanting someone else to make it. It would speed things along greatly. Plus every person has their own ideas, so if those people with ideas, went about getting the skills we could get more mods that others could build upon like HDT did over at Skyrim or like any other framework that can be built upon (can't think of any other examples right now). Who knows, maybe if players learned the skills, they could be the next trainwiz, elianora, or whatever famous modder?

 

I agree Maybe if I word it a bit better like "I am surprised that the mods are slow because of how creative the modding community is" is that okay to say?

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Okay whoa calm down he is just voicing his opinion Its fair criticism I mean you can't disagree with the fact the mods have been slow plus don't complain to him about not knowing how to use the Kit Its most likely a foreign language to most of the people who download mods

 

His criticism of the modding community is invalid when he hasn't contributed a single thing to it, unless you want to count one endorsement a year as contributing?!

Of course he's entitled to his opinion, but then anyone else is entitled to call him on his bs.

The problem is that this user is complaining but they're not doing anything to help resolve the situation i.e. pick up the CK etc, watch/read some tutorials, learn how to do stuff and make something themselves. It's a safe bet to say that they've been playing Bethesda games for the last five years, but I don't believe for a second that they haven't had the time to learn to make mods. That's insulting. His post can be condensed down to this:

"No one is making the things that I want"

and you defend this?

 

Look its not like that really hes surprised that the mods are slow because of how creative people have been with NV and Skyrim

Edited November 27, 2016 by Guest

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None of us started knowing how to mod. That's the lamest excuse ever. I learned new stuff while working on a mod just yesterday.

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Look its not like that really hes surprised that the mods are slow because of how creative people have been with NV and Skyrim

 

New Vegas (released six years ago) has 17,569 files.

Skyrim (released five years ago) has 50,235 files.

Fallout 4 (released one year ago) already has 15,685 files available.

These are the figures at the current date, the numbers speak for themselves. Even bearing in mind that Skyrim obviously has a larger user-base, and that a lot of users have played FO4 and subsequently moved on (or gone back to Skyrim)

...and this doesn't take into account things like the delay in Bethesda releasing the CK for FO4, the change in engine from previous versions, the general impact on modding because we now have the ability to make mods for consoles, or that certain tools that modders use and rely on are still being updated for FO4. Oh, and that a number of modders are working on re-releasing their mods for Skyrim SE (which obviously takes time that they might spend working on new mods for FO4)

Edited November 27, 2016 by AGreatWeight

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a) The community being "slow" on FO4 is not a fact, it's an opinion. And a pretty debatable one.

 

b) Comparing the amount of mods of different series is nonsense, the community is not the same.

 

c) Everything is open to criticism of course, freedom of speech is important but one's liberties stop when another's rights start. There is a difference between criticizing something and being an entitled jerk, a thin line sometimes.

 

d) Modders are people not machines shiping with knowledge out of the box. Not knowing? a few years ago i knew ZERO about modding, photoshop, coding... basically zero about everything remotely related to modding. No excuse.

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I see OP has edited their initial post to not look as bad. Too bad for them you can't edit titles.

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a) The community being "slow" on FO4 is not a fact, it's an opinion. And a pretty debatable one.

 

b) Comparing the amount of mods of different series is nonsense, the community is not the same.

 

c) Everything is open to criticism of course, freedom of speech is important but one's liberties stop when another's rights start. There is a difference between criticizing something and being an entitled jerk, a thin line sometimes.

 

d) Modders are people not machines shiping with knowledge out of the box. Not knowing? a few years ago i knew ZERO about modding, photoshop, coding... basically zero about everything remotely related to modding. No excuse.

a It is slow that's not debatable b there basically the same crowd of people c: Your aren't entitled to anything this is true but compared to the mods that came out for NV or even 3 its surprising at the difference d I'm not a modder don't know the first thing about it, its a far excuse some people just casually play with them

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Look its not like that really hes surprised that the mods are slow because of how creative people have been with NV and Skyrim

 

New Vegas (released six years ago) has 17,569 files.

Skyrim (released five years ago) has 50,235 files.

Fallout 4 (released one year ago) already has 15,685 files available.

These are the figures at the current date, the numbers speak for themselves. Even bearing in mind that Skyrim obviously has a larger user-base, and that a lot of users have played FO4 and subsequently moved on (or gone back to Skyrim)

...and this doesn't take into account things like the delay in Bethesda releasing the CK for FO4, the change in engine from previous versions, the general impact on modding because we now have the ability to make mods for consoles, or that certain tools that modders use and rely on are still being updated for FO4. Oh, and that a number of modders are working on re-releasing their mods for Skyrim SE (which obviously takes time that they might spend working on new mods for FO4)

 

4 has almost as much files a NV and has half the amount of unique content