Something is wrong. every time i use any kind of bench my game freezes

[x2cute2killx]

Hi im new to this forum and relatively new to modding games like fallout the only game ive ever modded was minecraft. Anyways im having trouble with this thing. it seems that i start the hardware town mission in diamond city and everything is smooth but as soon as i got inside hardware town itself thats when the glitch happens or whatever and from that point on every time i try and use a workbench my game just freezes. i dont know why this is happening and its reallly upsetting and i would say the simple answer would to be just to avoid hardware town but what if this happens with other missions as well?? i dont really know what im supposed to post. when using minecraft forum your suposed to put an FML client latest or a crash log but i havent found out how to find those or even know if they have things like that for fallout. im happy to oblige with any info you need so sorry if i did anything wrong or posted in the wrong place i just need help and would reallllly appreciate knowing how to fix this or at least find some way to remove or fix the mod or mods thats causing this thank you ^-^

[damanding]

Here what we need to see is your mod list. This wiki page has a section called "Enable Plugins" under the manual install section. http://wiki.tesnexus.com/index.php/Fallout_4_Mod_Installation That tells you how to find your plugins.txt file (if you're using a mod manger like NMM it automatically updates that file for you as you add/remove mods). You can post the list from that file here. If you have more than 20 mods installed it would help if you post it in the spoiler tag. When writing a post, the third from left icon on the top row is called Special BBCode. Spoilers is an option in that dropdown list. It will give you a box to paste your list into, then select OK.

[x2cute2killx]

okay thank you for responding il will uplad the list now

[x2cute2killx]

okay it was kind of a task to find it but i thank you for te detailed instructions. this is a little bit different than minecraft forum but its pretty similar any ways ive put my list in this spoiler

 

 

 

*unofficial fallout 4 patch.esp
*pipboycustomisationframework.esm
*armorkeywords.esm
*Homemaker.esm
*AmmoTweaks.esm
*lots more female hairstyles.esp
*azarponytailhairstyles.esp
*fusioncorerefueler.esp
*devastation.esp
*modgirlyanimation.esp
*unlimitedbuilding.esp
*what should have been.esp
*peoplearestrangers.esp
*wolfgang.esp
*rebalance-survival.esp
*AmmoTweaks_VIS.esp
*modern firearms.esp
*3dscopes.esp
*vehiclesalvage.esp
*k9tacticalharness.esp
*a89_pipboycustom.esp
*asharafo4steampunk.esp
*armorsmith extended.esp
*tacticalmods.esp
*asharafo4underarmours.esp
*3dnpc_fo4.esp
*everyonesbestfriend.esp
*everyoneswar.esp
*eli_faction housing overhaul - aio.esp
*subwayrunnernodynamic.esp
*diamondcityhomeplateoverhaul.esp
*firelance2.5.esp
*renlightmod.esp
*lightsabermod.esp
*weaponcraftingyay.esp
*newrecipes.esp
*wastelandsurvival.esp
*modfootwear.esp
*decorpack.esp
*mikemooresmcam.esp
*plenty 'o' exploration.esp
*farbarber.esp
*conquest.esp
*corvalhowidowshotgun.esp
*mk14.esp
*lexingtonlabs.esp
*rangergearnew.esp
*azarholsteredweapons.esp
*aemgs4outfit.esp
*classicsniper.esp
*lots more male hairstyles.esp
*lots more beards and moustaches.esp
*improved map with visible roads.esp
*westtektacticaloptics.esp
*campsite.esp
*mmslaserrcw.esp
*lasercannon.esp
*classicsnipercombatscopes.esp
*alienassaultrifle.esp
*wkzz_dr_combat_ranger_helm_mod.esp
*ark_travelbag.esp
*sleeporsave.esp
*LooksMirror.esp
*OCDecorator.esp
*OCDispenser.esp
*CraftableAmmunition_Adjustable.esp
*VendorCaps.esp
*fog.esp
*FAR.esp
*OVT.esp
*removedgrassanddebris.esp
*UsableCigarettes.esp
*Locky Bastard.esp
*Sneaky Kills.esp
*RecycleBottles.esp
*RealWorldDamages.esp
*AmmoTweaks_Base.esp
*rechamber.esp
*pistolgripsmakepistols.esp
*AmmoTweaks_VIS_MinesGrenades.esp
*AmmoTweaks_DestrMinesGrenades.esp
*AmmoTweaks_MechNPCWeapons_Base.esp
*AmmoTweaks_LeveledLists.esp
*Crossbow.esp
*p99.esp
*stumbleuponinteriors.esp
*wolfgangcollar.esp
*atomicradio.esp
*wm chinese assault rifle - standalone.esp
*falcon3.esp
*buildyourownvault.esp
*SSEX.esp
*AmmoTweaks_Settings.esp
*AmmoTweaks_FollowerWeapons.esp
*AmmoTweaks_Melee_Base.esp
*OSM_AlternateStart_Protocol-InfiniteAnswer.esp

 

[Banzai Babe]

This or something similar has happened to many of us during our modding careers, so it's usually no big deal, it just takes some time to find the culprit.

 

Every modder uses different setups and variations of mods, so it's pretty hard for others to recreate your problem. The good news is that if there's a problem with a mod, there are usually enough users complaining about it, so you can find a solution to your problem by simply perusing the post sections of the mods you use, reading the readme files and looking for known issues and incompatibilities. Just take some time and see if others have run into similar problems. This can be a time-consuming affair, but the only way to avoid it is to read the posts and readme files before you install new mods, so this is probably what you have to do.

 

Read these two posts, the first being a general introduction to modding and troubleshooting that could be of help, the latter being a solution to a similar problem.

 

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3767665-ten-rules-to-get-a-mod-setup-with-a-lot-of-workshop-crafting-mods-to-work/

 

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3779220-crafting-workbenches-mod-causes-game-crash-over-settlement-menu/

 

If nothing else works, you have to do it the hard way and deactivate one mod after the other and try if your game still freezes. Try it with loading different save games to make sure the problem isn't caused by a corrupted save file. If you're lucky, you'll find the mod that's causing the problem. The bad news is that you probably have to start a new game after you've found the mod that caused the issue in order to avoid issues with missing data in your save files, at least this was the issue with previous Bethesda games.

 

Good luck.

Edited November 23, 2016 by Banzai Babe

[damanding]

I'm not seeing anything that really stands out as a likely culprit, but you have quite a few on there I've never personally used. Can you remember if any of the mods you use add or change anything in Hardware Town, even something as simple as adding a weapon, armor, perk mag or something for you to pick up there? Any mod related quests that take you there? I checked the posts for Stumble Upon Interiors and didn't see anyone complaining about this issue there, so it may not be that mod (though you could always try disabling it and testing that). Plus that mod seems to add new interiors not modify vanilla ones. I also checked Plenty O Exploration and that mod does seem to have had a fair few bugs, but Chucksteel is apparently helping the mod author sort those issues. Plus it doesn't appear to touch Hardware Town either. Speaking of Chucksteel, you should really check out Beantown Interiors if you really want a lot of great new locations to explore. His is the original and the largest and he's done these for 3 different Fallout games so far so he's got lots of experience. He's also been working with the mod authors of the various exploration mods to make sure they're all compatible. :)

 

Does it happen at every type of workbench, meaning cooking, chemistry, weapons and armor or just one type of workbench? If so, which one? That will help us narrow the issue down.

[damanding]

As Banzai Babe said, you may end up having to test mods one by one. But the good news is that if the problem is specific to one type of workbench, that significantly narrows down the list of mods that you would want to start testing first, that being any mod that uses that workbench. So weapons mods for weapons workbench, etc.

[x2cute2killx]

thank you all for responding but today when i was playing it also affected another thing. i tried to set up a campsite with the camping mod and it froze then i reloaded my old save and avoided the area that made my game freeze and that seemed to work then i tried smoking a cigarette later on and now my game keeps freezing again so i think its the same mod causing all these issues. it seems that whenever i do an action type thing maybe its not just workbenches but like setting up a camp or smoking are also actions like using a workbench so maybe smething is affecting the actions itself. im not sure but i will try getting rid of plent o exploration i havent even run into any of the buildings as said mod user put there any way so yeah. as for starting a new game... i dont even know what to say to that. i mean is it REALLY neccassary?? if so then.... i suppose i can do it but.... man its gonna be hard doing everything all over again

[x2cute2killx]

the thing is also i dont think it aways affects the same action and it only happens when i venture in certain areas around diamond city. my game worked fine when i started out near campbridge police station. then when i went to diamond city that when the glitches started happening

[damanding]

Ok since it's affecting multiple types of actions and not just workbenches, that opens this up to pretty much all your mods. I'd start with mods that use scripts and animations as possible culprits.