Moded skyrim, random crash/freeze, help!

[Novocaine69]

hello, i recently went back to vanilla skyrim from special edition, did a clean install and TES edit clean masters, then i got to installing my mods, i put everything together, installed it all, did it right for the overwrites hence why the game actually starts but then out in the open there would be random freezes and crashes, sometimes the game doesnt even load and CTD.. =( im gonna list my mods copied from wryne bash even though i use NMM for everything..

sorted using LOOT as follows.. if anyone can detect conflicting mods causing the problem please help! and thanks in advance..

 

 

Active Mod Files:

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.4]
06  Falskaar.esm
07  RaceCompatibility.esm  [Version 1.60a]
08  SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm
09  Inn Girls Resources.esm
0A  notice board.esp
0B  daymoyl.esm
0C  RSkyrimChildren.esm
0D  hdtHighHeel.esm
0E  Havok Breast Physic.esm
0F  HighResTexturePack01.esp
10  HighResTexturePack02.esp
11  HighResTexturePack03.esp
12  Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp  [Version 1.2.0]
13  Cutting Room Floor.esp  [Version 2.0.3]
14  Animated Dragon Wings.esp
15  Rigmor.esp
16  Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
17  Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
18  Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
19  Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp  [Version 2.3]
1A  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
1B  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
1C  Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
1D  Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
1E  Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
1F  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.5.2b]
20  RealShelter.esp
21  Havok Breast Physic.esp
22  OBIS.esp
23  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.5.2a]
24  Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp
25  Populated Dungns Caves Ruins Legendary.esp
26  Cloaks.esp
27  BetterQuestObjectives.esp  [Version 1.5.8a]
28  Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
29  Immersive Weapons.esp
2A  Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
2B  SMIM-Merged-All.esp
2C  UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
2D  Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp
2E  Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp
2F  Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp  [Version 3.0]
30  Immersive Wenches.esp
31  Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp
32  SofiaFollower.esp
33  daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
34  LIAT - Sounds.esp
35  Sneak Tools.esp
36  Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
37  notice board - open cities patch.esp
38  Equipping Overhaul.esp
39  vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp
3A  notice board - dragonborn patch.esp
3B  Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp  [Version 2.3]
3C  My Home Is Your Home.esp
3D  Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
3E  Beards.esp
3F  BF.esp
40  Brawl Bugs CE.esp
41  UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
42  UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
43  UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
44  Vivid Weathers.esp
45  Vivid Weathers - Falskaar.esp
46  WetandCold.esp
47  WetandCold - Ashes.esp
48  Upgrade Leveled Items Spell.esp
49  UIExtensions.esp
4A  AddItemMenu2.esp
4B  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 9]
4C  The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
4D  SuccubusRaceLite.esp
4E  SkyUI.esp
4F  TradeBarter.esp
50  SkyTweak.esp
51  Realistic crime report radius.esp
52  RaceMenu.esp
53  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
54  Purewaters.esp
55  AK_RM_PubicStyles_All_In_One.esp
56  Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp
57  BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp
58  Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp
59  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
5A  RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp
5B  Dead Body Collision.esp
5C  Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
5D  DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
5E  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
5F  dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
60  BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
61  BetterQuestObjectives-UFOPatch.esp
62  Footprints.esp
63  FISS.esp
64  hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
65  iHUD.esp
66  ISC CCF Patch.esp
67  ISC DeadlySpellImpacts Patch.esp
68  ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
69  ISC WAFR Patch.esp
6A  WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
6B  LeftHandRings.esp  [Version 1.5]
6C  LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp  [Version 1.5]
6D  LIAT - NPCs.esp
6E  Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
6F  LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
70  dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
71  OBISDB.esp
72  Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
73  Headtracking.esp
74  RSPatch.esp
75  RSChildren - Complete.esp
76  dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
77  KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
78  immersive wenches -hotfix patch-.esp
79  ISCompendium CCO Patch.esp
7A  CharmingHighHeels.esp
7B  Brows.esp
7C  RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
7D  HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp
7E  Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp
7F  FNIS.esp
80  FNISspells.esp
81  FNISSexyMove.esp
82  FNIS_PCEA2.esp
83  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
84  Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
85  Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
86  XPMSE.esp
87  Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp
88  Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
89  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
8A  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
8B  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
8C  ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp  [Version 1.5]
8D  towConversation.esp
8E  Character Creation Overhaul.esp
8F  CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
90  CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
91  CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp
92  OblivionJailSystem.esp
93  Souls_Quick_Menu.esp
94  Pauldrons.esp
95  JaxonzNameGen.esp
96  Open Cities Skyrim.esp
97  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 3.1.5a]
98  BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
99  Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp
9A  Convenient Horses.esp

[snelss0]

Run a defrag and restart your computer, see if that helps.

1. Dance of Death is outdated, use Violens
2. RSPatch.esp should be last in your load order
3. Your Skeleton, xpmse should be right above Alternate start.
4. Convenient horses should not be last in your load order, make sure you've run LOOT and hit apply.
5. Ensure you've updated your FNIS after moving mods and just in case.
6. You have a TON of NPC additions. You really need to make sure that these all work together nicely. Read forums and bug reports on their pages to make sure, and ensure they have their patches they may or may not need.
7. Open Cities can cause havoc with skyrim, particularly when you have a lot of NPC mods from what I hear. Adding in HTD mods you have a recipe for CTDs and Freezes.
8. Put all your animations and FNIS just up above your skeleton mod. It should be:
[all other esps]
[textures] (body, landscape)
[animations]
[XPMSE]
[Alternate start]
9. Ensure that Ordinator and Apocalype work alright together as both edit a lot of dynamics of your character.
[any patches LOOT desires to keep above alternate start.]

10. Finally, after all this, I'd suggest starting a new game, as skyrim bakes information into your saves, so even if you have fixed it, it can still be causing issues. Never move or delete mods in an active save that requires them.

[Novocaine69]

Run a defrag and restart your computer, see if that helps.

1. Dance of Death is outdated, use Violens

2. RSPatch.esp should be last in your load order

3. Your Skeleton, xpmse should be right above Alternate start.

4. Convenient horses should not be last in your load order, make sure you've run LOOT and hit apply.

5. Ensure you've updated your FNIS after moving mods and just in case.

6. You have a TON of NPC additions. You really need to make sure that these all work together nicely. Read forums and bug reports on their pages to make sure, and ensure they have their patches they may or may not need.

7. Open Cities can cause havoc with skyrim, particularly when you have a lot of NPC mods from what I hear. Adding in HTD mods you have a recipe for CTDs and Freezes.

8. Put all your animations and FNIS just up above your skeleton mod. It should be:

[all other esps]

[textures] (body, landscape)

[animations]

[XPMSE]

[Alternate start]

9. Ensure that Ordinator and Apocalype work alright together as both edit a lot of dynamics of your character.

[any patches LOOT desires to keep above alternate start.]

10. Finally, after all this, I'd suggest starting a new game, as skyrim bakes information into your saves, so even if you have fixed it, it can still be causing issues. Never move or delete mods in an active save that requires them.

first of all thank you so much for replying <3

now to business..

1.replaced with violins

2.removed all together i dont think its worth it

3.so i should re-sort my skeleton after letting LOOT sort?

4.yes i looted it

5.FNIS is updated ive made sure of that, all animations work, no problems

6.gonna remove all mods that add NPCs all together...because im pretty sure ive checked for compatibility..

7.i really dont wanna give up open cities so just getting rid of extra NPCs mods would do?

8.again.. i should manually re-sort after i let LOOT do it?

9.yes i have them with compatibility patch

10.my save is fairly new, i tried disabling mods see whos the culprit its too many, problem is, crash and freezes are happening AFTER i start my new life so i have to start and then go outside and start running around or something.. which takes me ages to test if every time i wanna start a fresh new game =\

Edited November 27, 2016 by DarkFadi

[snelss0]

3. LOOT sorts a lot of essential things, but some things it doesn't care about. Put it manually down below and sort with LOOT; you'll see that it likely won't move.
7. Possibly? I see a lot of errors with Open Cities. Really dig into the mod and read everything if you are going to use it.
8. Same thing, manually sort it, run loot, and you'll see it won't likely move anything from where you put it.
10. Well at least its new!

Also, if you don't have one, use an SKSE.ini
If using Mod Organizer, make sure your overwrites are empty and your left pane matches your right in load order.

[Novocaine69]

3. LOOT sorts a lot of essential things, but some things it doesn't care about. Put it manually down below and sort with LOOT; you'll see that it likely won't move.

7. Possibly? I see a lot of errors with Open Cities. Really dig into the mod and read everything if you are going to use it.

8. Same thing, manually sort it, run loot, and you'll see it won't likely move anything from where you put it.

10. Well at least its new!

 

Also, if you don't have one, use an SKSE.ini

If using Mod Organizer, make sure your overwrites are empty and your left pane matches your right in load order.

im using NMM, in anyways.. ive uninstalled everything including the game, and did a clean install with a new mod list, got rid of a few

this time im getting instant CTD after a few minutes of new game, and i have given up =( the mods i filtered are the essentials to my playthrough..

this list has 20~ less plugins than first one i posted

Active Mod Files:

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.4]
06  Falskaar.esm
07  daymoyl.esm
08  hdtHighHeel.esm
09  SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm
0A  RaceCompatibility.esm  [Version 1.60a]
0B  Havok Breast Physic.esm
0C  HighResTexturePack01.esp
0D  HighResTexturePack02.esp
0E  HighResTexturePack03.esp
0F  Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp  [Version 1.2.0]
10  Cutting Room Floor.esp  [Version 2.0.3]
11  Rigmor.esp
12  Havok Breast Physic.esp
13  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
14  Cloaks.esp
15  Immersive Weapons.esp
16  SMIM-Merged-All.esp
17  Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
18  UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
19  SofiaFollower.esp
1A  daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
1B  Sneak Tools.esp
1C  Equipping Overhaul.esp
1D  vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp
1E  My Home Is Your Home.esp
1F  Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
20  BF.esp
21  RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
22  Character Creation Overhaul.esp
23  CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
24  CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
25  CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp
26  CharmingHighHeels.esp
27  Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp
28  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
29  Convenient Horses.esp
2A  Dead Body Collision.esp
2B  towConversation.esp
2C  Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
2D  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
2E  dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
2F  dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
30  Footprints.esp
31  Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp
32  Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
33  hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
34  iHUD.esp
35  ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
36  JaxonzNameGen.esp
37  KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
38  LeftHandRings.esp  [Version 1.5]
39  LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp  [Version 1.5]
3A  Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
3B  dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
3C  Upgrade Leveled Items Spell.esp
3D  Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
3E  Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
3F  Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
40  Pauldrons.esp
41  Headtracking.esp
42  RaceMenu.esp
43  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
44  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
45  Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
46  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
47  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
48  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
49  SkyUI.esp
4A  SkyTweak.esp
4B  Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
4C  Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
4D  Souls_Quick_Menu.esp
4E  SuccubusRaceLite.esp
4F  UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
50  UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
51  UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
52  UIExtensions.esp
53  AddItemMenu2.esp
54  VioLens.esp  [Version 2.11]
55  Vivid Weathers.esp
56  Vivid Weathers - Falskaar.esp
57  WetandCold.esp
58  WetandCold - Ashes.esp
59  FISS.esp
5A  Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp
5B  FNISspells.esp
5C  FNIS.esp
5D  FNISSexyMove.esp
5E  FNIS_PCEA2.esp
5F  XPMSE.esp
60  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 3.1.5a]

Edited November 27, 2016 by DarkFadi

[snelss0]

1. Ensure your clean install was really clean: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/906390-cleaning-skyrim-for-fresh-install/

2. Also make sure you've cleaned your main mods correctly. Watch a recent youtube video as to how to do that for your dlc and main files.

3. You didn't state whether or not you added an SKSE.ini or not.

4. Make sure that your SKSE mod is installed correctly.

5. Are you using an ENB?

[Novocaine69]

i may have found the culprit, the CTD 10 seconds or so after new game, caused by Rigmor of Bruma mod and IA, while IA is configuring its crashing the game, i figured this out by disabling all mods, and then finding each mod if it does the crash, im pretty sure i can enable rigmor again after i save.

 

i probably need further testing but it seems the CTD stopped after disabling Rigmor OR IA...

 

in either way, i need further help with this: im gonna put the current "working" mod list, and gonna mention a few mods, someone point out if its safe to add them

 

Active Mod Files:

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.4]
06  Falskaar.esm
07  hdtHighHeel.esm
08  SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm
09  daymoyl.esm
0A  RaceCompatibility.esm  [Version 1.60a]
0B  Havok Breast Physic.esm
0C  HighResTexturePack01.esp
0D  HighResTexturePack02.esp
0E  HighResTexturePack03.esp
0F  Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp  [Version 1.2.0]
10  Cutting Room Floor.esp  [Version 2.0.3]
11  FISS.esp
12  WetandCold.esp
13  Character Creation Overhaul.esp
14  Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
15  Footprints.esp
16  RaceMenu.esp
17  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
18  SkyUI.esp
19  SkyTweak.esp
1A  towConversation.esp
1B  UIExtensions.esp
1C  iHUD.esp
1D  Havok Breast Physic.esp
1E  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
1F  Cloaks.esp
20  Dead Body Collision.esp
21  Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp
22  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
23  Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
24  Immersive Weapons.esp
25  LeftHandRings.esp  [Version 1.5]
26  LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp  [Version 1.5]
27  Pauldrons.esp
28  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
29  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
2A  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
2B  Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
2C  CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp
2D  Headtracking.esp
2E  Convenient Horses.esp
2F  Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
30  Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
31  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
32  dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
33  dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
34  SMIM-Merged-All.esp
35  UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
36  SofiaFollower.esp
37  daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
38  Sneak Tools.esp
39  Equipping Overhaul.esp
3A  vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp
3B  My Home Is Your Home.esp
3C  Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
3D  Upgrade Leveled Items Spell.esp
3E  FNISspells.esp
3F  CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
40  Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
41  Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
42  UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
43  UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
44  UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
45  CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
46  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
47  FNIS.esp
48  XPMSE.esp
49  KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
4A  BF.esp
4B  RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
4C  Souls_Quick_Menu.esp
4D  JaxonzNameGen.esp
4E  hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
4F  ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
50  dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
51  Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
52  Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
53  CharmingHighHeels.esp
54  AddItemMenu2.esp
55  VioLens.esp  [Version 2.11]
56  Vivid Weathers.esp
57  WetandCold - Ashes.esp
58  Vivid Weathers - Falskaar.esp
59  HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp
5A  FNIS_PCEA2.esp
5B  FNISSexyMove.esp
5C  SuccubusRaceLite.esp
5D  Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp
5E  Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp
5F  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 3.1.5a]

mods i'd like to add:

Better Vampires 7.6

Better Dialogue Controls - Better Dialogue Controls v1_2

Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition

Brows - High Resolution

Classic Oblivion Jail System

Clothing and Clutter Fixes - Clothing and Clutter Fixes ---------------->this one overwrites SIMM (the big static mesh

mod i have) and it overwrites also weapons fixes that i also listed below

Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade - Complete Crafting Overhaul

Deadly Spell Impacts - DSI High v1_6_1

Even Better Quest Objectives

Guard Dialogue Overhaul - Guard Dialogue Overhaul

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul ------> is it safe?

Moonlight Tales - Werewolf and Werebear Overhaul - Moonlight Tales Version 2_33 ----->compatibility with better vempires?

OBIS - Organized Bandits In Skyrim - OBIS 2.01 --------->would be about the only mod that adds NPCs

Open Cities Skyrim

Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - RDO - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - RDO FinalA

RS Children Overhaul

Skyrim Immersive Creatures

The Notice Board

Trade and Barter - Trade And Barter - Hearthfire

Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade --------->overwrites SIMM (?) and Clothing and Clutter Fixes (?)

sorted by name.. does anyone know which of these/or any of them be compatible/crash free/freeze free with my mod list i mentioned above?

Edited November 28, 2016 by DarkFadi

[Novocaine69]

1. Ensure your clean install was really clean: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/906390-cleaning-skyrim-for-fresh-install/

2. Also make sure you've cleaned your main mods correctly. Watch a recent youtube video as to how to do that for your dlc and main files.

3. You didn't state whether or not you added an SKSE.ini or not.

4. Make sure that your SKSE mod is installed correctly.

5. Are you using an ENB?

hello, sorry i didnt see you reply, was writing my post

 

1.yes my skyrim folder is clean, what i did was get a clean install off of steam, cleaned its masters via tesedit by the book, what i do: open tesedit, select only example: update, apply filter for cleaning, remove identical to masters, undelete and disable refrences, close, save only update.esm, repeat same for rest of DLCs. Note: i do not touch skyrim esm

2.as i mentioned above

3.i added one, once i figured it out, enabled debugg mode? although im not sure what lines exactly i should be adding

4.it is

5.no, i dont dare getting near ENB's specially with stuff happening with me recently! lol

 

could you please read my post, and thank you so much for sticking around.

Edited November 27, 2016 by DarkFadi

[Novocaine69]

small update: played a whole hour with active mods i mentioned above, no crash

 

waiting on your reply for the extra mods id like to add. @snlss0

Edited November 28, 2016 by DarkFadi

[snelss0]

As for your Rigor or IA issue, that's good. Glad you figured out a couple mods not compatible either with each other or something else. I however don't know what those are. If IA is Immersive Armors, I know that it is not a buggy mod, so I'd lean more towards Rigor being a bad mod, but it's hidden on the nexus so I'm not sure.

1. Installing Better Vampires. Make sure you reaaaally read his page. There is critical load order in installing this mod to make it work.

2. Clothing and clutter fixes + Weapons and armor fixes + Complete Crafting overhaul combo mods work fine with SMIM. Just have them in the correct load order. It should say on Clothing and Clutter Fixes' page.

3. Trade and Barter might be alright together with your other mods. Not 100% though.

4. As for your OBIS+Immersive Citizens+Immersive Creatures+OpenCities. I really cannot speak to these as I've never used them, but I look at it like this: You were experiencing problems with your mods before, so go simple. Think of your skyrim world as an incomplete puzzle. Now each of these mods add a puzzle piece, but what are they connecting to? NPCs in some form or fashion right? When I get that alarm going off in my head, then I make sure I really dig into the forum/post/requirement/recommended/and install sections of the mod pages. A lot of time these mods do not work well with other mods besides mods that affect npcs. Really, just do your research, and if a mod doesn't say whether it is compatible with another, test it out; ask the mod author; look to see if there are conflicts in TES5Edit- stuff like that.

So in another example, you have Equipping overhaul and sneak tools, so is that going to be compatible with your crafting/clothing/weapon+armor fixes mod? Something to check out.

5. I would check to make sure that the Classic oblivion jail system is going to work with open cities.

6. You still haven't moved your xpmse down to the bottom of your load order, just above Alternate start