Mitigate Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) Mitigate, by your logic, an out of shape person shouldn't buy running shoes because they could never keep up with Usain Bolt. How about you stop worrying about what other people do for enjoyment and mind your own business? There are plenty of people who run games just fine in potato mode and enjoy it. If that's what they want to do, who are you to tell them otherwise? It's simple economics, the income from console game success funds your multi-platform PC games. If not for that funding, sorry, you wouldn't be enjoying nearly as many PC games. Don't get me wrong, I don't own consoles and have no love for them, but it's the sales from the plebs that make your PC master race campaign possible. Enjoy it for what it is, a game. Your post makes you come off as a tart. If you're busy putting your nose up other people's butts, don't be surprised if you end up saying a lot of crap. :thumbsup:Ah yes, money... The greatest bane to creativity, true progress and people actually giving a s***. If the majority are running games on potatoes at 30fps, then why would developers care to improve? Every year there are more and more downgrades, more and more disappointments... The quality of a product is unfortunately directly related to the majority's expectations and how they react. Too many potatoes running inferior tech. Too many console owners happy with a slideshow and 900p. And I'm suffering for it. If Boston can run at a stable 30FPS and the majority accept this as 'perfectly fine', why would they care to change it for those with actual standards? Why would they care about my stutters? They already have their money from the majority. If this is taken as purely unreasonable then so be it. I'm not trolling or seeking any sort of 'fight'. Just expressing how I feel, how I think it is. Pointing out a problem. But really, I don't have to be apologetic about this anyway. Edited December 6, 2016 by Mitigate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3s7ing Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Very special snowflake we have here... You're suffering, sure. Cause you can't run an game at 60 fps in ultra.With your logic I could say thst people like you, with only i5's are holding my i7 back! Shame on you! No optimization for 12 Cores! And developers actually care about problems like that, but there are simply more important things to do than fix a problem where you drop below 60 fps (and yes, 60 fps is NO standard). Actually I can't see the downgrades every year you are talking about. Just cause promo videos look better then the actual game? (referring to ubisoft here) That's just marketing and has nothing to do with consoles or "inferior" pc's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3s7ing Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 More likely consoles are going every year more in the direction of pc's. Most new shooters run at 60fps on consoles like the ps4. Actually the pc sets Standards and the consoles just follow with a little delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitigate Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) Very special snowflake we have here...You're suffering, sure. Cause you can't run an game at 60 fps in ultra.With your logic I could say thst people like you, with only i5's are holding my i7 back! Shame on you! No optimization for 12 Cores!And developers actually care about problems like that, but there are simply more important things to do than fix a problem where you drop below 60 fps (and yes, 60 fps is NO standard). Actually I can't see the downgrades every year you are talking about. Just cause promo videos look better then the actual game? (referring to ubisoft here) That's just marketing and has nothing to do with consoles or "inferior" pc's.I expected opposition. And ad hominem. I am still convinced I have a valid point. ARK:Survival Evolved will be another example if it ever releases. It's fan base have sunk Millions into it already and it rarely hits 30fps on top-tier hardware. I bet my bottom Dollar that trainwreck never sees a stable 60fps while looking anywhere near as advertised. Edited December 6, 2016 by Mitigate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cossayos Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Apart from the fact that Bethesda still uses the old (revised) engine, there are as many PC configurations out there as there are PCs. So there will never be the exact same result on each and every machine. I run a much weaker system than yours, but I can still play on medium high with reasonable frame rates. That's all I would expect. That's all I ever expected from any game. They're designed with an abundance of possible systems in mind and will never run to every user's satisfaction. As for console ports, I've seen better, but I've seen much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatalmasterpiece Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Mitigate, by your logic, an out of shape person shouldn't buy running shoes because they could never keep up with Usain Bolt. How about you stop worrying about what other people do for enjoyment and mind your own business? There are plenty of people who run games just fine in potato mode and enjoy it. If that's what they want to do, who are you to tell them otherwise? It's simple economics, the income from console game success funds your multi-platform PC games. If not for that funding, sorry, you wouldn't be enjoying nearly as many PC games. Don't get me wrong, I don't own consoles and have no love for them, but it's the sales from the plebs that make your PC master race campaign possible. Enjoy it for what it is, a game. Your post makes you come off as a tart. If you're busy putting your nose up other people's butts, don't be surprised if you end up saying a lot of crap. :thumbsup:Ah yes, money... The greatest bane to creativity, true progress and people actually giving a s***. If the majority are running games on potatoes at 30fps, then why would developers care to improve? Every year there are more and more downgrades, more and more disappointments... The quality of a product is unfortunately directly related to the majority's expectations and how they react. Too many potatoes running inferior tech. Too many console owners happy with a slideshow and 900p. And I'm suffering for it. If Boston can run at a stable 30FPS and the majority accept this as 'perfectly fine', why would they care to change it for those with actual standards? Why would they care about my stutters? They already have their money from the majority. If this is taken as purely unreasonable then so be it. I'm not trolling or seeking any sort of 'fight'. Just expressing how I feel, how I think it is. Pointing out a problem. But really, I don't have to be apologetic about this anyway. You would do well to watch this episode of the Twilight Zone, because you remind me of the main character:https://youtu.be/jX2HDYZJ4yw...after all, if everyone else who is in your way was gone, wouldn't you finally have "time enough at last" to enjoy what you want?You're not suffering because of anyone. You exist and the game exists thanks to others. You should be thankful it was made. Could it be better? Yes, and of course technological setbacks can be frustrating, but enjoy it for what it is and do not project your displeasures on those who deserve your gratitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLakZmOkeareOoouYyye Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I don't see why would someone with a bad pc be part of your problem. Someone else's pc can't affect your entitlement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamefever Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Well in order to properly design the game to run well the developer of the game should make something called a.....Wait for it... Console system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneganFach Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I love pretty graphics so much I play on 4k ultra at 35fps. #partoftheproblem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greekrage Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I think Mitigate came here to post cause hes having issues with one of my mods that is SERIOUSLY overloaded with data as a location. Its all most similar to walking into the commons area but not as bad. What he doesnt understand is that in some cases it isnt about the VGA card but about how your setup is processing all the information and that depending on the setup may cause lag resulting in frame loss . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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