Super low FPS while playing normally

[WrathofOmega666]

my issue:
i'm dealing with extremely low fps (like 10-15 or less) when i do just about anything outside of looking at my pipboy (then go figure it kicks up to 60+) i don't have any enbs installed either.

also... my game will randomly cause me to be unable to select things with the ingame cursor. so if i level up and that happens i have console quit out if i have to select a perk as i'll be unable to select anything. BUT i have a temp fix for that. the low fps issue is more important. it's getting to be unplayable. i tried loading the vanilla game through just steam and it's fine. hell it's better than fine. i get like 140+ fps. so it's gotta be 1 or more mods (or possibly all). as you can see i'm using TTW, but the fps issue was BEFORE i started using TTW. TTW didn't do anything to it though.

i'm at my wits end. can someone PLEASE help me try and fix this cause i've got no idea how to remedy this. as you can see i'm using MO.

let me know if i left anything out. i'll provide it asap. i will note though that unfortunately the 32bit MO doesn't have the option to just export the plugin list, so i had to opt for the screen shot option sorry. (if it's too small here, open it in a new tab. that should display the full size)

Entire Load Order list (nvse plugins included)

 

mod_id,mod_installed_name,mod_version,file_installed_name
43865,"A Few More Map Markers","2.0.0.0","A Few More Map Markers-43865-2-0.zip"
0,"A World Of Pain (AWOP)","5.3.0.0","A World Of Pain v5.3-38719-5-3.zip"
0,"Auto Inc Save 1","d2015.4.22","Auto Inc Save 1-0-39217-1.rar"
0,"AWOP v5.3.1 Hot Fix patch file-38719-5-3-1","d2015.4.22","AWOP v5.3.1 Hot Fix patch file-38719-5-3-1.zip"
46432,"Berrett 98B","d2015.4.22","Berrett 98B-46432-1-1.rar"
53696,"blackwidow ver type3 body","d2015.10.31","blackwidow ver type3 body-53696-2-0.7z"
0,"BNB Complete","d2016.12.2","BNB Complete.7z"
0,"Book of Earache Vegas Edition","3.0.0.0","BOEvegas3_04.7z"
48222,"Breeze New Vegas Males - AIO-48222-1-8","d2015.4.22","Breeze New Vegas Males - AIO-48222-1-8.7z"
36264,"Cass cloths","d2014.1.3","Cass cloths v2-36264.rar"
56815,"Crysis Nanosuit","5.0.0.0","Crysis Nanosuit 5.0 Main plugin-56815-5-0.zip"
48299,"DMRreachRifleUpdate","d2015.8.11","DMRreachRifleUpdate-48299-1-3.7z"
34829,"Easy Unlocking and Easy Hacking and Guaranteed Pick Pocket","d2014.1.26","Easy Unlocking and Easy Hacking and Guaranteed Pick Pocket-34829.7z"
0,"EVE - Essential Visual Enhancements","1.17.0.0","EVE v1.17 - MO-42666-1-17.zip"
45346,"Follower Cheat Menu","d2015.3.1","Follower Cheat Menu v6-45346-6.zip"
13,"FOOK","d2015.4.21","FOOK v1-13 Optional Files-34684-1-13.7z"
54398,"FOOK - Project Nevada Convergence","2.8.0.0a.Final","FOOK-PN Convergence-54398-2-8a-Final.7z"
13,"FOOK v1-13 Optional Files-34684-1-13","d2015.4.21","FOOK v1-13 Optional Files-34684-1-13.7z"
13,"FOOK v1-13 Required Files-34684-1-13","d2015.4.21","FOOK v1-13 Required Files-34684-1-13.7z"
36851,"ghostopspipv1","d2013.6.18","ghostopspipv1-36851.rar"
0,"Glocks 1_3-49230-1-3","d2015.4.25","Glocks 1_3-49230-1-3.rar"
49230,"Glocks Real Name ESP","d2015.8.13","Glocks Real Name ESP-49230-.rar"
0,"Goodsprings Weapons Cache","d2011.9.17","C:/Users/Dilli/AppData/Local/Temp/Goodsprings Weapons Cache.fomod"
48326,"Gun Runners Arsenal Chest","d2016.4.9","Gun Runners Arsenal Chest-48326-1.zip"
0,"HK PSG-1 V-1-1","d2015.8.11","HK PSG-1 V-1-1-1-42619-1-1-1.zip"
42813,"Honest Hearts Weight and Companion Cheat","d2015.6.2","Honest Hearts Weight and Companion Cheat-42813-1-0.rar"
0,"IWS","d2011.10.26","C:/Users/Dilli/AppData/Local/Temp/IWS 1.99 FOMOD.fomod"
58277,"JIP NVSE Plugin","32.10.0.0","JIP NVSE Plugin-58277-32-10.7z"
49478,"JIP Selective-Fire","d2015.9.27","JIP Selective-Fire-49478-1-21.7z"
61824,"Lazarus Project","7.0.0.0","Lazarus Project V7 (Beta until thougtfully tested).-61824-7.rar"
55399,"Lutana NVSE Plugin","18.2.0.0","Lutana NVSE Plugin-55399-18-2.zip"
50080,"m40a5","d2013.5.1","m40a5-50080-v0-5.rar"
37321,"Magic Fingers Perk","1.0.0.0","Magic Fingers Perk 1_0-37321-v1-0.zip"
0,"Max Level","d2015.3.24","Max Level 255-39906-1A.7z"
35878,"Mikotos Beauty Pack","d2015.2.10","Mikotos Beauty Pack v4_6-35878.rar"
39592,"Mod Looting","d2015.4.22","Mod Looting-39592-v1-0.7z"
39592,"Mod Looting - Ps and Ps","d2015.4.22","Mod Looting - Ps and Ps-39592.7z"
44312,"Mojave Delight","d2015.4.26","Mojave Delight v1-44312-1.rar"
47937,"Mojave Delight Coolhair Replacer V1dot1","d2015.5.25","Mojave Delight Coolhair Replacer V1dot1-47937-V1-1 (2).zip"
35979,"More Perks","2.4.6.0","More Traits 1_1_5-35979-1-1-5.7z"
0,"More Perks Merge","2.4.6.0","C:/Users/Dilli/AppData/Local/Temp/More Perks Merged and Fixes.fomod"
43506,"Mr Rads Content Update","d2015.2.7","Mr Rads Content Update -43506-8dot1.zip"
0,"MR. Rads Collection v8 hotfix-43506-1","d2015.2.7","MR. Rads Collection v8 hotfix-43506-1.zip"
0,"Mr. Rads Collection v8-43506-8","d2015.2.7","Mr. Rads Collection v8-43506-8.zip"
34902,"MTUI","d2015.8.15","MTUI-34902.zip"
0,"My NV Mods","d2016.8.22","My NV Mods.7z"
53635,"NVAC - New Vegas Anti Crash","7.2.1.0","NVAC - New Vegas Anti Crash-53635-7-2-1-0.zip"
0,"NVSE Extender","16.0.0.0","NVSE Extender v16.fomod"
0,"NVSR 4","d2015.11.1","NVSR_4-1-36-34832-4-1-36.zip"
0,"Official Pipboy Readius","d2015.10.3","Official Pipboy Readius.7z"
0,"Project Nevada","2.5.0.0","Project Nevada 2_5-40040-2-5.7z"
0,"Project Nevada - Extra Options","1.2.0.0","Project Nevada - Extra Options 1_3-47285-1-3.7z"
0,"Shiloh DS - Clean Pipboy Screen","1.4.0.0","ShilohDS - Clean Pipboy Screen.fomod"
0,"Smokes Pwnage","d2016.7.13","Smokes Pwnage.7z"
0,"Tale of Two Wastelands - Main Files","2.9.4.0","TaleOfTwoWastelands_Main.fomod"
0,"Tale of Two Wastelands - Optional Files","2.9.4.0","TaleOfTwoWastelands_Options.fomod"
0,"The Mod Configuration Menu","1.5.0.0","The Mod Configuration Menu.fomod"
0,"The Weapon Mod Menu","1.2.0.0","The Weapon Mod Menu.fomod"
57174,"UIO - User Interface Organizer","1.31.0.0","UIO - User Interface Organizer-57174-1-31.zip"
-1,"Unmanaged: CaravanPack","",""
-1,"Unmanaged: ClassicPack","",""
-1,"Unmanaged: DeadMoney","",""
-1,"Unmanaged: FalloutNV","",""
-1,"Unmanaged: GunRunnersArsenal","",""
-1,"Unmanaged: HonestHearts","",""
-1,"Unmanaged: LonesomeRoad","",""
-1,"Unmanaged: MercenaryPack","",""
-1,"Unmanaged: NVEC Complete + NVCE","",""
-1,"Unmanaged: OldWorldBlues","",""
-1,"Unmanaged: TribalPack","",""
41657,"v3 1 Ghost Variants","d2015.5.2","v3_1 Ghost Variants-41657-1.7z"
56270,"Vanessa MainBeta","d2016.3.11","Vanessa MainBeta-56270-1-7beta.7z"
49157,"Version 2 and fixes","d2013.6.14","Version 2 and fixes-49157-.rar"
0,"WeapAniRep Pistols","d2016.12.2","WeapAniRep.7z"
0,"WeapAniRep Rifles","d2016.12.2","WeapAniRep Rifles.7z"
39651,"Weapon Mods Expanded - WMX","1.1.4.0","WMX - EVE Compatibility v1.0.10-39651-1-0-10.7z"
61135,"Weapons of the New Millenia - MO ready","1.0.0.0","Weapons of the New Millenia - MO ready.7z-61135-1-0.7z"
0,"weapons.of_.the_.new_.millenia.ttw_.unified.distribution.esp","d2016.12.7","weapons.of_.the_.new_.millenia.ttw_.unified.distribution.esp.7z"
0,"Willow the Better Companion","d2016.12.2","Willow the Better Companion.7z"
41267,"WMVM","3.3.1.0","WMVM-41267-3-3-1.7z"
0,"WMX-AWOP 2","d2013.6.18","WMX-AWOP_2-1-39708-2-1.7z"

 

 

PC Specs:

Operating System

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
AMD FX-6300 48 °C
Vishera 32nm Technology
RAM
16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
AMD Corporation 990FXA-UD3 (CPU 1) 33 °C
Graphics
VX238 (1920x1080@60Hz)
4096MB ATI AMD Radeon R9 200 Series (Gigabyte) 44 °C
Storage
2794GB Seagate ST3000DM001-1CH166 ATA Device (SATA) 33 °C
2794GB Seagate ST3000DM001-1CH166 ATA Device (SATA) 34 °C
238GB Samsung SSD 840 PRO Series (SSD) 31 °C
931GB Seagate ST1000DM003-9YN162 (SATA) 32 °C
2794GB Western Digital WDC WD30EZRX-00DC0B0 (SATA) 32 °C
29GB Kingston HyperX Fury 3.0 USB Device (USB)
119GB CENTON CENTON USB USB Device (USB)

 

 

Mod plugin Load Order

 

 

 

[dubiousintent]

Have you taken a look at this section of the ""Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide? Also, have you implemented anything to take advantage of more than the default 2GB 32-bit games use, like the FNV 4GB Patcher? See this section of the same article.

 

-Dubious-

[WrathofOmega666]

Also, have you implemented anything to take advantage of more than the default 2GB 32-bit games use, like the FNV 4GB Patcher?

yes i use the 4gb patcher.

as for the other info i'll check that out as i didn't even know about that existing

EDIT: i forgot to mention...

after the 3rd game launch load screen, it takes like 10-15 seconds to load to the point where i can load my game

my fps literally drops to 0 during that time.

Edited December 9, 2016 by WrathofOmega666

[WrathofOmega666]

Ok so i tried everything that you showed me...

didn't help, still only getting 10-15fps

i'm about to start tearing my hair out. i can't play a game with only 10fps. especially when i'm supposed to get far more

any other ideas?

thanks

 

EDIT: tried the following:
Installed to ssd and did the multi-core ini fix

neither of which seemed to help...

still need help.

Edited December 9, 2016 by WrathofOmega666

[dubiousintent]

It sounds like you are down to looking for a mod that is consuming a lot of processing cycles. You can try to do this by "temporary elimination" of some mods or by reverting to a vanilla game and adding (and testing) each mod one at a time. The temptation is always to go with "elimination", but in practice that is only better if you have a reasonable idea as to what mod might be causing the problem. Most often at the end of a varying period of time you get frustrated and wind up starting over anyway. See the "Mod Conflict Isolation" section of the "Fallout NV Mod Conflict Troubleshooting" guide on both approaches. Use a "new" game to test with, as you don't want something that is "burned into your save" affecting your isolation attempt. Once you have isolated your problem, then you can decide if you are better off starting over or trying to continue from a save.

 

I also suggest you prioritize your desired mods, and install (and test) the ones most critical to you first. See the "Towards Game Stability" section just below the "Isolation" section in that same article.

 

If you do start over, suggest you take a look at the "FNV General Mod Use Advice" article first.

 

-Dubious-

[WrathofOmega666]

speaking of the vanilla game....i tried it and i got 140fps. go figure. so it looks like it's 1 or more mods that're consuming game memory

i haven't the slightest on which though... looks like i'll need to do process of elimination... *sigh* that'll be fun..

curious though..since i use MO and most fonv mods aren't configured for it, would it be better to just use FoMM? just a thought...

[dubiousintent]

Hmm. "Would it be better to just use FoMM?" That sounds like something I should cover in detail in the "General Mod Use Advice" article.

 

[Edit: Done. See the "Terminology" section just after "Install Order" and "Load Order" are defined.]

 

-Dubious-

Edited December 11, 2016 by dubiousintent

[WrathofOmega666]

Hmm. "Would it be better to just use FoMM?" That sounds like something I should cover in detail in the "General Mod Use Advice" article.

 

[Edit: Done. See the "Terminology" section just after "Install Order" and "Load Order" are defined.]

 

-Dubious-

i think i'm gonna have to just start TOTALLY fresh. cause i've tested the game on two different pc's and both get the low fps bug.

both pc's have similar specs (one has a better CPU but an inferior gpu and the other is vice versa lol) there's gotta be a fix to this

i've heard that win10 could be the cuprit but i can't bring myself to believe that fully, as i've played FNV on win10 in the past with no fps issue.

i wonder if it's got anything to do with my semi cluttered Overwrite folder in MO. who knows. anyway. i'll redo it all when i'm home and post the results. thanks :)

[dubiousintent]

Even though it is tedious, be sure to install and test each mod separately. That really is the only efficient way to properly pin down the conflict, because if you install multiple mods at once you can't easily tell which one overwrote which files.

 

-Dubious-

[WrathofOmega666]

So... in case anyone come across this somehow.... i'm fairly certain i found the issue

IT WAS MY BLOODY OS!!!!!! -_- i tested this on my window 7 laptop and BOOM! 30-40fps!

windows 10 users should probably be careful when playing New Vegas and avoid 3 altogether as windows 10 says out right, 3 is incompatible with it

i think the anniversary update to 10 reeeeeally rekt older gaming play-ability. and not just fallout i mean. it's probably hit and miss though. i'd suggest getting a pc dedicated to older games and instead of win10 go win7 if you love the classics as much as i do lol.

anyway! thanks Dubious!