NovumSemita Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Hello, I am having a problem with the Thieves Guild small jobs (bedlam, heist, etc). I can get jobs in all the holds bar Whiterun and Winterhold. I'm using the Localized Thieves Guild Mod which allows me to choose which hold I'd like to get a job in. All work as planned except the aforementioned two. When I ask for a job in Whiterun the conversation with Vex or Delvin proceeds as normal but when the conversation ends no quest is started and nothing is added to the journal. I tried looking in the creation kit. It's almost as if Whiterun and Winterhold don't match the conditions to be picked as viable locations but I tried looking in the kit and couldn't find anything of that nature (though I might have missed something, I'm not too good with the CK) This is the only major problem I'm having with the game, performance is fine. I'll also paste my load order below: 0 0 Skyrim.esm1 1 Update.esm2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp3 3 Dawnguard.esm4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp5 5 HearthFires.esm6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp7 7 Dragonborn.esm8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp9 9 RSkyrimChildren.esm10 a EFFCore.esm11 b ApachiiHair.esm12 c SexLab.esm13 d Campfire.esm14 e daymoyl.esm15 f PurpleEyes.esp16 10 Player Size Adjuster.esp17 11 SkyUI.esp18 12 freedomfornightingales.esp19 13 vAutosaveManager.esp20 14 FISS.esp21 15 AMatterOfTime.esp22 16 ultimateodahviing.esp23 17 DineWithFollowers.esp24 18 UIExtensions.esp25 19 iHUD.esp26 1a WondersofWeather.espQuieterDogs.esp27 1b Craftable Jester Clothes.esp28 1c Brawl Bugs CE.esp29 1d LayDown.esp30 1e Sit Anywhere.esp31 1f TakeNotes.esp32 20 RaceMenu.esp33 21 RaceMenuPlugin.esp34 22 JaxonzRenamer.esp35 23 becomeahighwayman.esp36 24 FreeHugMod.esp37 25 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp38 26 YourMarketStall.esp39 27 more plants all extra.esp40 28 bb4p_moreplantables.esp41 29 HonedMetal.esp42 2a becomeabeggar.esp43 2b BuryTheDead.esp44 2c Glowing Eyes.esp45 2d LockDoorsWithKeys.esp46 2e SWF Spar with Followers.esp47 2f EnchantedArsenal.esp48 30 AnonymousPeople.esp49 31 Animations.esp50 32 LootandDegradation.esp51 33 Ghosu - Imperial Greatsword.esp52 34 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp53 35 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp54 36 manny_eyeglasses.esp55 37 NPC Bartering.esp56 38 LydiasParents.esp57 39 mintylightningmod.esp58 3a zzArmormashups.esp59 3b Converse_Female.esp60 3c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp61 3d FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp62 3e SMDropLitTorch.esp63 3f SimplyKnock.esp64 40 jacketedoufits.esp65 41 SpaceCoreNavi.esp66 42 Immersive NPC in the dark.esp67 43 JaxonzDroppableStatics.esp68 44 AK- Placeable Statics.esp69 45 Requiem.esp70 46 VioLens.esp71 47 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp72 48 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp73 49 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp74 4a sewersforthieves.esp75 4b Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp76 4c Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp77 4d Purity.esp78 4e SoS - The Wilds.esp79 4f WetandCold.esp80 50 WetandCold - Ashes.esp81 51 Severin Manor -6 Adoptable Children.esp82 52 Birdsofskyrim.esp83 53 SoS - Civilization.esp84 54 JobsofSkyrim.esp85 55 SoS - The Dungeons.esp86 56 Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged - Deep Immersion.esp87 57 UndergarmentsForAll.esp88 58 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp89 59 DFB - Random Encounters.esp90 5a Holidays.esp91 5b LocalizedGuildJobs.esp92 5c ArcheryDummyXP.esp93 5d Requiem - Immersive Armors.esp94 5e Immersive Weapons.esp95 5f FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp96 60 Requiem - Immersive Weapons.esp97 61 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp98 62 KamiTH.esp99 63 Thieves Guild Requirements.esp100 64 Inconsequential NPCs.esp101 65 Dogs-of-Skyrim.esp102 66 Inigo.esp103 67 chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp104 68 Frostfall.esp105 69 RealisticFunctionalBoats.esp106 6a Peridot Clothes.esp107 6b wizDynamicThings.esp108 6c RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp109 6d Requiem - Bugsmasher Edition.esp110 6e ultimatedurnehviir.esp111 6f ArmorDisguises.esp112 70 Requiem - Hearthfire.esp113 71 SMIM-Merged-All.esp114 72 RND Requiem Food Patch.esp115 73 Requiem - HearthFires.esp116 74 Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp117 75 inebriationmod.esp118 76 getdrunk.esp119 77 SFO - Dragonborn.esp120 78 Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim City Edition - Merged - Deep Immersion.esp121 79 Immersive Patrols II.esp122 7a Blink - Standalone.esp123 7b Immersive Horses.esp124 7c Craftable Horse Barding.esp125 7d Ducks and Swans.esp126 7e Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp127 7f ShowersInInns.esp128 80 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp129 81 quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp130 82 TimingIsEverything.esp131 83 The Pit.esp132 84 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp133 85 Waves.esp134 86 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp135 87 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp136 88 FishingInSkyrim.espportal2mod.esp137 89 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp138 8a ESFCompanions.esp139 8b Sneak Tools.esp140 8c realcompanions_underforge_bmb.esp141 8d ribeable-broom.esp142 8e Thief_Followers.esp143 8f Injure Set.esp144 90 Talof Doom-Spear.esp145 91 The_Sinister_Seven.esp146 92 Knight Of Thorns Armor.esp147 93 battleflute.esp148 94 WestWindAssault.esp149 95 InteractiveWashBasinsCOMPLETE.espRequiem - Immersive College of Winterhold.esp150 96 Shockys Safe Chests.esp151 97 SyndraFollower.esp152 98 LPBards.esp153 99 DrelasCottage_Player.esp154 9a Blaze Of Eventide.esp155 9b Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp156 9c Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp157 9d Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp158 9e Bathing in Skyrim - Interactive Wash Basins.esp159 9f zariafarmingvanilla.esp160 a0 Requiem - Craftable Horse Barding.esp161 a1 Requiem - Immersive Horses.espREQMOD.esp162 a2 OpenUnlock.esp163 a3 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp164 a4 ProtectedLydia.esp165 a5 Burning Skies.esp166 a6 TheCallOfTheNorth.esp167 a7 HearthfireMultiKid.esp168 a8 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp169 a9 Predator Vision.esp170 aa FemaleToMaleHelmets.esp171 ab FaceMasksforNPC.esp172 ac FaceMasksOfSkyrim_IdentityConceal.esp173 ad GuildStarter.esp174 ae bm_SimpleAction.esp175 af JaxonzEnhGrab.esp176 b0 More Dynamic Injuries.esp177 b1 CShacks.esp178 b2 Skull of Corruption Improved.esp179 b3 EFFDialogue.esp180 b4 RND_AnimalLoot.esp181 b5 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp182 b6 StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp183 b7 FNIS.esp184 b8 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp185 b9 GiveGiftstoNPCs-voiced.esp186 ba RSC Requiem Patch All DLC.esp187 bb RSChildren - Complete.esp188 bc Requiem - No Messages.espRequiem - No Overencumbered Messages.esp189 bd Requiem - Restored Rewarding Sounds.esp190 be Requiem - Restored Saving Messages.esp191 bf VioLens - Requiem Patch.esp192 c0 Requiem - Vanilla Shrines.esp193 c1 Requiem - Vilja.esp194 c2 Requiem - Loot and Degradation Patch.esp195 c3 Requiem - Campfire.esp196 c4 Requiem - Immersive Patrols.esp197 c5 Requiem - Inconsequential NPCs.esp198 c6 Requiem - Inigo.espRequiem - RS Children Overhaul.esp199 c7 RSChildren_PlayableOverride.esp200 c8 RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp201 c9 Requiem - Timing is Everything.esp202 ca Requiem - VioLens.esp203 cb HearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp204 cc RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp205 cd RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp206 ce RND_USKP-Patch.esp207 cf XPMSE.esp208 d0 UFA_IA_patch.esp209 d1 Annoying Navi.esp210 d2 Sparring.esp211 d3 FNISspells.esp212 d4 SpaceCore.esp213 d5 Requiem - Frostfall.esp214 d6 Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp215 d7 No GPS.esp216 d8 Requiem - ESF Companions.esp217 d9 Requiem - Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp218 da ThievesGuildReq_LocalizedGuildJobs_Patch.esp219 db CompanionsTGJfix.esp220 dc Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp221 dd Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp222 de Requiem - Live Another Life.esp223 df Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 2.esp224 e0 Requiem for the Indifferent.esp Any help would be much appreciated. 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snelss0 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Whenever you move/alter/delete a mod, because Skyrim bakes information into your saves, this can cause issues. I suggest testing these changes on a new game.1. Make sure that you've read the post in the "Posts" section pinned and elsewhere for your issue with the LTGM. He mentions errors with USKP, which you use.2. Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade requires two other mods which are listed on his page and also should be in a specific load order. Make sure you read the mods you install.3. Check on each of your thief editing mods, such as Thief tools, thief followers, and so on, that they don't mess with the quests and such that LTGM provides or influences. If they do, these mods conflict.4. I would recommend all your Fnis, all animations FNIS updates, and your XPMSE mod go just up next to Alternate Start at the near end of your load order, and in that order:FNIS[animations]XPMSEAlternatestart5. Because you use all DLC, I really would suggest using Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch instead of USKP. If you do use this, make sure your mods are updated for it and reinstalled so that any selections that require Legendary or USLEEP are updated properly. One I can see immediately is RS Children. There is a separate patch for RS Children for USLEEP by a different mod author (I believe). Make sure you reinstall RS CHildren and do not select the USKP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovumSemita Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Whenever you move/alter/delete a mod, because Skyrim bakes information into your saves, this can cause issues. I suggest testing these changes on a new game.1. Make sure that you've read the post in the "Posts" section pinned and elsewhere for your issue with the LTGM. He mentions errors with USKP, which you use.2. Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade requires two other mods which are listed on his page and also should be in a specific load order. Make sure you read the mods you install.3. Check on each of your thief editing mods, such as Thief tools, thief followers, and so on, that they don't mess with the quests and such that LTGM provides or influences. If they do, these mods conflict.4. I would recommend all your Fnis, all animations FNIS updates, and your XPMSE mod go just up next to Alternate Start at the near end of your load order, and in that order:FNIS[animations]XPMSEAlternatestart5. Because you use all DLC, I really would suggest using Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch instead of USKP. If you do use this, make sure your mods are updated for it and reinstalled so that any selections that require Legendary or USLEEP are updated properly. One I can see immediately is RS Children. There is a separate patch for RS Children for USLEEP by a different mod author (I believe). Make sure you reinstall RS CHildren and do not select the USKP. EDIT: Oh snap, I spoke too soon. On a new save with all my thief related mods removed Whiterun would indeed come up in the list of jobs but now Markarth seems to be absent instead. I'm going to start a new NMM profile with no mods then gradually add them one by one to see if I can identify the culprit. Thank you very much. snelss0. I followed all your instructions and the second thieves guild job I took landed on Whiterun. Once again, thanks so much. Edited December 15, 2016 by NovumSemita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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