MercifulTears Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I'm having an issue with crashing to desktop after the game loads (both starting new characters and continuing ones) and since I'm extremely new to mods, I probably screwed it up somehow. LOOT however says otherwise: http:// imgur. com/b9gxX2x (please remove spaces from link). I was having an issue with seemingly infinite loading screens and installed a mod to combat that ( http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/46465/? which was probably a waste of time, idk if it even works like that tbh), and now it goes to a black screen with in-game sound effects before crashing to desktop. messages: - type: say text: "[Latest LOOT thread](https://loot.github.io/latest-thread/)." language: en - type: say text: Your SKSE is up-to-date. language: en plugins: - isActive: true isEmpty: false loadsArchive: false crc: 0 version: "" name: Skyrim.esm globalPriority: 0 priority: 0 messages: [] isDirty: false tags: ~ - isActive: true loadsArchive: true isEmpty: false priority: 0 messages: [] globalPriority: -127 tags: - name: C.Encounter - name: C.Location - name: C.RecordFlags - name: Delev - name: Names - name: Stats isDirty: false name: Update.esm version: "" crc: 2331629033 - messages: [] tags: - name: C.Location - name: C.RecordFlags - name: C.Regions - name: Delev - name: Graphics - 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snelss0 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Look in LOOT, and in the upper right there are 3 dots. You click on those, and inside is a selection to "Copy Load order". Paste that here with Ctrl V in a spoiler, that post you made in the spoiler above is very hard to read; and yes, SafetyLoad works amazingly. Edited December 14, 2016 by snelss0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztedmongoloid Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/wiki/troubleshooting_guide https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/wiki/beginners_guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztedmongoloid Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Look in LOOT, and in the upper right there are 3 dots. You click on those, and inside is a selection to "Copy Load order". Paste that here with Ctrl V in a spoiler, that post you made in the spoiler above is very hard to read; and yes, SafetyLoad works amazingly. Safety load is outdated and no longer needed with crash fixes or SKSE memory patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercifulTears Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Look in LOOT, and in the upper right there are 3 dots. You click on those, and inside is a selection to "Copy Load order". Paste that here with Ctrl V in a spoiler, that post you made in the spoiler above is very hard to read; and yes, SafetyLoad works amazingly.I did that at first, but when I added the LOOT log it had my mod list so I removed that. I'm like 100% sure that I just have too much. My main issue is what to remove. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Falskaar.esm 6 6 ETaC - RESOURCES.esm 7 7 Evil Lair of Hydra.esm 8 8 Dragon Break.esm 9 9 SkyMoMod.esm 10 a 0db2SECOND.esm 11 b Gray Fox Cowl.esm 12 c ImmersiveBountyHunting_Bandits.esm 13 d HjakhtraevarrTomb.esm 14 e Shadow of Morrowind.esm 15 f SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp 16 10 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm 17 11 arnima.esm 18 12 DeadliestDragons.esm 19 13 RaceCompatibility.esm 20 14 MolagBalsInferno.esm 21 15 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp 22 16 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp 23 17 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp 24 18 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp 25 19 HighResTexturePack01.esp 26 1a HighResTexturePack02.esp 27 1b HighResTexturePack03.esp 28 1c Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 29 1d DragonscaleArmorExpanded.esp 30 1e Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 31 1f Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 32 20 tpos_ultimate_esm.esp 33 21 ETaC - Complete.esp 34 22 SkyUI.esp 35 23 Extended UI.esp 36 24 Predator Vision.esp 37 25 WerewolfSprintSpeedIncreased2.esp 38 26 WondersofWeather.esp 39 27 PredatorsLostTribesV1.esp 40 28 Death Mountain part2.esp 41 29 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 42 2a SOTAntiCTD.esp 43 2b Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 44 2c EBS - Books (Before).esp 45 2d ReadAndLearnSpeechcraft.esp 46 2e Better Skill and Quest Books Names - BS.esp 47 2f KJ Tattoos 4K.esp 48 30 ZZStarryEyed.esp 49 31 RaceMenu.esp 50 32 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 51 33 ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp 52 34 ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp 53 35 Unique Dragon Priest Masks.esp 54 36 Supreme Fog.esp 55 37 Immersive NPC in the dark.esp 56 38 Zombies.esp 57 39 Monster Wars.esp 58 3a Rebirth Monster.esp 59 3b DarkTower.esp 60 3c Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp 61 3d Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp 62 3e SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp 63 3f MIHAILDAGON.esp 64 40 SoS - The Wilds.esp 65 41 SoS - Civilization.esp 66 42 _WhirlwindSprintLP.esp 67 43 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 68 44 SoS - The Dungeons.esp 69 45 Immersive Whiterun.esp 70 46 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 71 47 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp 72 48 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp 73 49 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp 74 4a EBS - Potions (Vanilla Weight).esp 75 4b Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 76 4c Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 77 4d DigitigradeKhajiit+ArgonianRaptor.esp 78 4e BeastDragonPriestMasks.esp 79 4f RaceMenu - Norse Tattoos.esp 80 50 Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp 81 51 Immersive Solstheim.esp 82 52 Immersive Weapons.esp 83 53 Basnpc.esp 84 54 GreatTalosHunt.esp 85 55 WATER.esp 86 56 banditraids.esp 87 57 Holidays.esp 88 58 EBS - Spells.esp Open Cities Skyrim - Holidays.esp 89 59 EpicBossFight.esp 90 5a Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp 91 5b SOTGenesisMod.esp 92 5c Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp 93 5d BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp 94 5e Do You Know Who I Am.esp 95 5f Heimfeigr.esp 96 60 TheFrontier.esp 97 61 The Honored Dead.esp 98 62 Run For Your Lives.esp 99 63 Cloaks.esp100 64 SMIM-Merged-All.esp101 65 ThirdEraWars.esp102 66 ImmersiveBountyHunting.esp103 67 DragonmournInn.esp104 68 ChaosDragons.esp105 69 EBS - Misc.esp106 6a LC_immersiveLoot.esp107 6b TheDomain.esp108 6c C1_Den_Erovrade_Staden.esp109 6d QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp110 6e HammetDungeons.esp111 6f quest into the depths.esp112 70 ShadowOfTheDragonGod01.esp113 71 AdalMatar.esp114 72 Shout-tastic_no CD.esp115 73 BloodmoonRising.esp116 74 YetAnotherWerewolfImprovement_DG.esp117 75 WerewolfPerksExpanded.esp118 76 BeastWithin.esp119 77 Werewolf Loot- Dawnguard version.esp120 78 Real Feeding V3.esp121 79 werewolf.esp122 7a uniqueweaponenchantments.esp123 7b ScopedBows.esp124 7c Daedralair.esp125 7d Immersive Patrols II.esp126 7e ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp127 7f PATCHDragon Break.esp128 80 konahrik_accoutrements.esp129 81 CompanionValfar.esp130 82 SOTFollowMeAndSwimToo.esp131 83 Legend of the Vae.esp132 84 SFO - Dragonborn.esp133 85 MiraakFollower.esp134 86 AgentOfRighteousMight.esp135 87 xamnant.esp136 88 Populated Cities 2.esp137 89 CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp138 8a Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp139 8b Atlas Map Markers.esp140 8c SilverDragonArmor.esp141 8d Recorder Follower Base.esp142 8e WheelsOfLull.esp143 8f AesirArmor.esp144 90 TradeRoutes.esp145 91 TradeRoutes-ETaC-Patch.esp146 92 Catman_Zahkrii.esp147 93 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul Lite.esp148 94 hardenemypack.esp149 95 0db2patch.esp150 96 DraconianRaceWithTailArgonianPowers.esp151 97 DraconianRaceWithTailNewPowers.esp152 98 DraconianRaceNoTailArgonianPowers.esp153 99 DraconianRaceNoTailNewPowers.esp154 9a Elder Vampire Race Update.esp155 9b IcePenguinWorldMap.esp156 9c Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp157 9d ogDiverseDragons2.esp158 9e Conan_Hyborian_Age.esp159 9f DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp160 a0 NARC-SkyTEST.esp161 a1 Bloodskal Buff 200.esp162 a2 Dragon Aspect Buff.esp163 a3 BloodskalBladeRevamp.esp164 a4 BloodSkal Buff 75.esp165 a5 BloodSkal Buff 500.esp166 a6 BloodSkal Buff 50.esp167 a7 BloodSkal Buff 100.esp168 a8 SabreFurBag.esp169 a9 Character Creation Overhaul.esp170 aa CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp171 ab CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp172 ac CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp173 ad High Level Enemies - Falskaar.esp174 ae More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp175 af Animated Dragon Wings.esp176 b0 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp177 b1 DragonBoneEbonsteel.esp178 b2 DragonHideRobeArmor.esp179 b3 SwordsmansCoat.esp180 b4 LBackpackAll.esp181 b5 Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp182 b6 kuerteeSimpleMultipleFollowers.esp183 b7 efpbandits.esp184 b8 lighterdbs.esp185 b9 DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp186 ba P1FlyingRing.esp187 bb More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Flying Mod Addon.esp188 bc EBS - Soul Gems (Numbered).esp189 bd EBS - Ammo.esp190 be EBS - Ingredients (Vanilla Weight).esp191 bf EBS - Food (Vanilla Weight).esp192 c0 UltimateDragons.esp193 c1 SoT Temper Recipes.esp194 c2 ApotheosisDemo.esp195 c3 Into the Deep.esp196 c4 darkproject.esp197 c5 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp198 c6 Atlas Dawnguard.esp199 c7 Immersive Music Temples.esp200 c8 Immersive Music Replacer.esp201 c9 TES Music - Oblivion and Morrrowind Soundtrack.esp202 ca Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_v2.1.esp203 cb konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp204 cc MzarkWonders.esp205 cd dragonattackforts.esp206 ce Atlas Dragonborn.esp207 cf Gersonia.esp208 d0 summersetisles.esp209 d1 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp210 d2 Dungeons Chapter 1.esp211 d3 Tales_of_Lycanthropy.esp212 d4 bestialhungerring.esp213 d5 WRF_by_RolandSir_Main_file_DG.esp214 d6 chfshImbuedSword.esp215 d7 superrichdragon.esp216 d8 frostknightbattle.esp217 d9 halfdragonrace.esp218 da Dragonbone Weapons.esp219 db DragonBlood.esp220 dc PerkPointPotion.esp221 dd Time Manipulation.esp222 de ASwordAccursed_v2.01.esp223 df PP_WindcallerPass.esp224 e0 Atlas Hearthfire.esp225 e1 dremoratreasurebattle.esp226 e2 manbeastbattle.esp227 e3 falmertreasurebattle.esp228 e4 undeadtreasurebattle.esp229 e5 The_Sinister_Seven.esp230 e6 Instant Mastery.esp231 e7 ISD_Dragonspear.esp232 e8 Chau.esp233 e9 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp234 ea daedrahunterfollowers.esp235 eb dwarventreasurebattle.esp236 ec ElementalArrows.esp237 ed LostLongSwords.esp238 ee DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp239 ef Increased Arrow Damage.esp240 f0 ArrowsNoGravity.esp241 f1 LFox No Racial Power Cooldown.esp242 f2 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp243 f3 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp Edited December 14, 2016 by MercifulTears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snelss0 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 1. Make sure that you have your DLC patches right up next to the DLCs. I would suggest you getting the Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition patch instead of using USKP, but even if you do want to use USKP for some reason, it would need to be like this:SkyrimUpdateUnofficial Skyrim PatchDawnguardUnofficial Dawnguard PatchHearthfiresUnofficial Hearthfires PatchDragonbornUnofficial Dragonborn PatchIf you use USLEEP, it's just:SkyrimUpdateDawnguardHearthfiresDragonbornUnofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch2. ETaC has many patches it uses on its compatibility page. Make sure you are using all the necessary patches for your mod list.3. You do have a lot of mods. You should learn how to merge some. 254 is the highest you can go without problems I believe. 255 is when you start seeing some weird stuffs.4. I would personally refrain from any sound mod or NPC overhaul mod if using a massive city overhaul mod. I would think these would be in conflict with each other, and some mod authors seem to think so too.5. You are running Ordinator, so make sure you don't have any mods that alter the perk tree. Werewolf mods might do this. Check for compatibility. I don't use those so I'm not sure. 6. I wouldn't have any other mods that mess with sounds unless there is a SoS patch or something for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercifulTears Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share Posted December 15, 2016 1. Make sure that you have your DLC patches right up next to the DLCs. I would suggest you getting the Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition patch instead of using USKP, but even if you do want to use USKP for some reason, it would need to be like this:SkyrimUpdateUnofficial Skyrim PatchDawnguardUnofficial Dawnguard PatchHearthfiresUnofficial Hearthfires PatchDragonbornUnofficial Dragonborn PatchLOOT won't let me do this. I have to do it manually in the data files folder. It won't allow me to set anything higher than Dragonborn.esm. 2. ETaC has many patches it uses on its compatibility page. Make sure you are using all the necessary patches for your mod list. 3. You do have a lot of mods. You should learn how to merge some. 254 is the highest you can go without problems I believe. 255 is when you start seeing some weird stuffs. 4. I would personally refrain from any sound mod or NPC overhaul mod if using a massive city overhaul mod. I would think these would be in conflict with each other, and some mod authors seem to think so too. 5. You are running Ordinator, so make sure you don't have any mods that alter the perk tree. Werewolf mods might do this. Check for compatibility. I don't use those so I'm not sure. 6. I wouldn't have any other mods that mess with sounds unless there is a SoS patch or something for it.I'll double check the ETaC thing. NMM won't even attempt to launch the game if you're running more than 255 plugins. According to LOOT/NMM I have 234 plugins and 202 mods, so I'll probably just end up taking the time to test mods one by one. I'll cut any cities mod I have in that case. As for the Ordinator/Werewolf Perk thing, it doesn't seem to cause issues in the SE (which I'd rather be playing tbbh) so I would assume the same for this, but I'll see if it conflicts as I'm starting the game when I get to it. To my knowledge the only sound mods I have are SoS but I'll double check as I go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algabar Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Once you've reached a certain number of installed mods and/or animations, CTDs on load become an issue. Try "Continue game - no crash": http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/78557/? If "too many" mods are the cause of your CTDs, this should solve your problem. Edited December 15, 2016 by Algabar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snelss0 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 If you are going to cut your mods and reinstall, do so on a clean new game. https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/906390-cleaning-skyrim-for-fresh-install/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercifulTears Posted December 16, 2016 Author Share Posted December 16, 2016 I'm starting a fresh new game every time. It only has to go past the loading screen for the specific issue I was having to prove resolved. I had most of my mods loaded before experiencing a CTD on load, so I removed the last mod I enabled and it loaded fine. However, I happened to have to walk away for a few minutes and when I came back my computer was at the desktop. So, I disable all mods including DLCs and launch basic vanilla, let it sit for a while and it crashes to desktop. Same exact issue I have with the SE.RIP Skyrim, I give up. Bethesda will never get my money again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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