lethielnyrond Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 I don't remember reading anything about this in the description of any of the mods I've installed, and I *do* read the descriptions...can anyone help me identify which mod is doing this, or am I condemned to uninstall/save/play/reinstall/repeat ad infinitum with all 240 of them? I would really be grateful for any help. Lethiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumbincubation Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 When do they happen? At random, or only when interacting with certain items? You could try running SSEedit, with all mods loaded at once. (Don't clean or filter. Just let them all load and expand the trees to find the messages in question. Still a bit time consuming (assuming you don't have an inkling of an editor name to search in the box) but far less so than doing the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethielnyrond Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share Posted December 18, 2016 They happen when a skill increases. Someone hits me, Light Armour goes up a point, bam. I've tried the obvious suspect (a new skill-related mod I hadn't tried before) and it's not that one, apparently, so SSEEdit it will have to be. If anything, it looks like a bug checking routine that got left in by mistake... Lethiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethielnyrond Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 Apparently what SSEEdit calls a Message is the text that appears in the top left of the screen, e.g. "You cannot fast travel when there are enemies about." I can't find what it calls messages in boxes. Okay, I admit it. I've been impatient and ported mods from Oldrim without waiting for them to be officially converted. Nothing that needs SKSE or MCM, but all the same, random crashes and glitches are no more than I deserve. But this is different. It practically amounts to malware for Skyrim. You can't possibly aim an arrow if a box pops up and freezes the game just as you're sighting. Someone did it a'purpose, and I want to know how to fix it. Has anyone else had this problem? Please tell me! Lethiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofgren Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Sounds like a debug message from a skill-up quest. Load up SSEedit and look for mods that change Story Manager Event Node 0002D386. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethielnyrond Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 That's odd. It doesn't look as if anything does. Lethiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishmaeltheforsaken Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Apparently what SSEEdit calls a Message is the text that appears in the top left of the screen, e.g. "You cannot fast travel when there are enemies about." I can't find what it calls messages in boxes. Message boxes are the same kind of record. It's a box if the "Message Box" flag is checked. Looking through each of your mods looking for the Message that says "hi" is still your best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdcooley Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 If the message is that common finding it shouldn't be hard. Just do the binary search method of testing your mods. Start a new game without any mods active and get to the point where you would expect to see that message and make a testing save. Then activate all the mods and make sure you can reproduce the problem by loading the testing save. Deactivate half the mods and load the testing save again. At that point you'll now know one half of your mods aren't causing the problem. So load up half of the set that are and try again. Keep repeating until you get down to the one causing the problem. (After restarting the game only 10 times you should have your answer.) The most likely culprit is some mod that expects SKSE and is using that message as a flag that SKSE isn't working. If that's the case the offending bit is probably just a Debug.Notification call in one of the scripts packed in some BSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethielnyrond Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Well, that was interesting. I deactivated all the mods except for USSEP, started a new game, got into Helgen Keep, pinched Gunnar's gear, and as soon as I started setting about me with the axe, One-Handed skill increased and there was the message box. So either it's Skyrim itself, or USSEP, or I have a stealth mod I can't see, that doesn't show up in LOOT or Wrye Bash or SSEEdit, and yet is affecting the game. I've been very careful not to try using any mods that tell me they *need* SKSE or MCM. I have used mods from the Nexus that say SKSE or MCM are required for additional functions but not necessary for the game. But none of those are active... I guess it's time for a bottom-up delete and reinstall... *sigh* Unless anyone has any ideas? Lethiel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzendix Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Delete all folder inside Data folder and Verify Integrity of Game Cache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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