Game will NOT start after trying to get mods! (PLEASE HELP I BEG YOU)

[kiuytrd]

Ok so it sounds like for some reason you're having issues with HUD Framework. It might be that NMM isn't installing or fully uninstalling all the files. If you manually download the mod and save it some place you can easily find (doesn't matter where) then you can unzip the files and look at what the file structure should be. Then compare it to the file structure in Fallout 4/Data to see what's missing (or left behind after uninstall). I find it most helpful to have two separate file managers open for this part, one for the clean mod package you manually downloaded and one for the Fallout 4 Data directory. I bet that if you delete any swf files left behind that Fallout will start launching properly again.

 

The mods work, modding for fallout works, the ini tweaks I gave you are the official way to enable modding. Now that we've progressed a bit further in troubleshooting, I believe the problem that you're having is actually most likely related to NMM itself. The most recent versions of NMM are extremely buggy and are no longer being supported. It might actually better to revert to an older version of NMM or switch to a different mod manager like Mod Organizer 2.

 

Try what I mentioned in the first paragraph, remove all traces of the HUD Framework mod manually first. See if the game launches again. Then try reinstalling it and then verify that it has all the files in the appropriate place that it should have, copy over anything missing. Then see if it launches again. If that solves your problem and you want to continue using this version of NMM, you'll need to manually verify each installation in that same way. Otherwise I can help you get an older more stable version or switch to MO2.

I tried using the Mod Organizer 2. It worked with CBBE at first, but after i tried installing the Armor and Weapon Keywords Community Resource i get the same thing happening, I now cannot even open the game even though i disabled the mods, and i see no traces of them anywhere in the data folder or anything. I tried validating the game files, nothing changed. I honestly cannot find anything out of the ordinary but it looks like I'll have to reinstall the game a fifth time now... Is there anything i could be missing? I don't see a Plugin file in the my local fallout 4 folder this time, could that be something? I guess i'll reinstall and try manual installation.

Edited December 22, 2016 by kiuytrd

[damanding]

All I can think is that a step was missed somewhere. The mods themselves are not broken for others. Now that you're using MO none of the mod files will appear in the Data directory anymore. With MO anything you manually add to the Data directory will get moved to MO's overwrite directory instead. I'm not at home to look up where MO directories are unfortunately. But normal installs with MO should not require verification that the files got installed properly, that's really only an issue with NMM. However, with MO, you MUST start the game from within MO itself, it won't work starting the game directly from the normal fallout4.exe file. So make sure that's what you're doing.

[kiuytrd]

All I can think is that a step was missed somewhere. The mods themselves are not broken for others. Now that you're using MO none of the mod files will appear in the Data directory anymore. With MO anything you manually add to the Data directory will get moved to MO's overwrite directory instead. I'm not at home to look up where MO directories are unfortunately. But normal installs with MO should not require verification that the files got installed properly, that's really only an issue with NMM. However, with MO, you MUST start the game from within MO itself, it won't work starting the game directly from the normal fallout4.exe file. So make sure that's what you're doing.

That was what i was doing, and i just tried to manually install one mod (The homemaker mod since it only has 2 folders to move) on my fresh install of the game and even though i deleted the files and changed the ini back it still crashes even though i undid everything i changed.

Edited December 22, 2016 by kiuytrd

[BlahBlahDEEBlahBlah]

Just sticking my head in with another random thought:

When you uninstall, do you clear out the install directory before reinstalling?

Uninstalling does not clear out loose mod files, scripts, esp's, etc, only vanilla files.

 

(Sorry if mentioned already, only just buzzed through the thread quickly again)

 

Sidenote: Damanding always puts so much time into these threads, lucky we are. =)

[kiuytrd]

Just sticking my head in with another random thought:

When you uninstall, do you clear out the install directory before reinstalling?

Uninstalling does not clear out loose mod files, scripts, esp's, etc, only vanilla files.

 

(Sorry if mentioned already, only just buzzed through the thread quickly again)

 

Sidenote: Damanding always puts so much time into these threads, lucky we are. =)

Yeah, i tried my best to make sure every trace of it was deleted

[damanding]

 

All I can think is that a step was missed somewhere. The mods themselves are not broken for others. Now that you're using MO none of the mod files will appear in the Data directory anymore. With MO anything you manually add to the Data directory will get moved to MO's overwrite directory instead. I'm not at home to look up where MO directories are unfortunately. But normal installs with MO should not require verification that the files got installed properly, that's really only an issue with NMM. However, with MO, you MUST start the game from within MO itself, it won't work starting the game directly from the normal fallout4.exe file. So make sure that's what you're doing.

That was what i was doing, and i just tried to manually install one mod (The homemaker mod since it only has 2 folders to move) on my fresh install of the game and even though i deleted the files and changed the ini back it still crashes even though i undid everything i changed.

 

Why do you keep changing the ini files? They only need to be changed once. The ini file changes I gave you are NOT OPTIONAL, they are required if you want to use mods. You add the required lines once and then leave it alone forever and ever. If you change the ini files back to vanilla and have mods installed the game will crash every time.

[damanding]

Sidenote: Damanding always puts so much time into these threads, lucky we are. =)

I enjoy being Support Queen. :D I know how frustrating it is when you can't figure out a problem and no one answers your thread on a forum. I don't know everything by a long shot, but I can at least share what I do know.

[kiuytrd]

I'm only changing it to add the lines that it needs, and when it didnt work i deleted the mods and tried running the game but it didnt work, after that i deleted the lines i added and it still didnt work. I'm jist trying to troubleshoot i guess cause sometimes it actually worked after i changed it back but sometimes it doesnt it just seems very inconsistent for some reason, i mean, i undid all of the changes i made and now it still wont run, even though it ran at first

[kiuytrd]

 

Sidenote: Damanding always puts so much time into these threads, lucky we are. =)

I enjoy being Support Queen. :D I know how frustrating it is when you can't figure out a problem and no one answers your thread on a forum. I don't know everything by a long shot, but I can at least share what I do know.

 

Thank you so much for trying to help me as best as you can. Honestly I didn't really expect anyone to help as much as you have (even though i still haven't gotten it to work ;p)

[damanding]

Unfortunately I'm kind of at a loss, it's tough to diagnose without watching what you're doing. I'm about to leave work shortly (where I oddly have quite a bit of free time to contribute to support threads) and the for the rest of the day and much of tomorrow I'll be really busy. It should be as simple as having the ini edits, using MO to install the mods and starting the game from MO.