Gothpunk4Christ Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 I would also like a tool to record engine outputs, like figuring out what exactly causes certain CTDs, like if there's a corrupt texture or skeleton issue or something. Papyrus logs don't help if it's not a script issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebkidd Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I have increased my mod number to 307 and the number of plugins to 190 which includes a Bashed Patch. The number of starting strings has edged up 35700 or so. I also included Skyrim SE re-engaged ReShade into the mix. I played for over a hour after getting my build to that point and got to level 20. I had to shut it down to eat. I will try playing more this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebkidd Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I played for almost 3 hours with no problems. In case anyone is wondering I would call this a medium grade PC at best. It is a laptop with a Intel i7-4710HQ running at 2.5 GHz. It has 32 GB of ram. It has a NVIDIA 870M with 3 GB of VRAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothpunk4Christ Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I could probably see the lower end PCs maybe having issues before higher end, but I don't think any of it's hardware related. As far as userbench goes, my PC is in the top 2% for gaming and 4% as far as non-gaming, and I do have this issue. Which mods did you cut out, and which are you actively running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebkidd Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Here is a list of my mods. The list is out of MO2 so it is in reverse order. Also, I have added AFT which upped my starting string number to 37224. I then played for over 3 hours with no problems. # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.+Bashed Patch - Complete+FNIS Output+360 Walk and Run Plus+Dual Wield Blocking for Idiots - Skyrim Special Edition+Bowlegged jump animation fix+Lifelike Idle Animation - Converted for SSE+Girly Animation+D13 Faster GET UP STAND UP animation vanilla friendly SSE+Immersive Animations+FNIS Spells SE 7.0+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS-17. Animations & FNIS+Interesting NPCs TKAA Patch SE+The Kids Are Alright SE CRF Patch+The Kids Are Alright SE+CLARALUS Support Patches+Stalhrim+Ancient Dwemer Metal 2K+Ancient Automatons 2K+(2K) Skygazer Moons - Masser and Secunda HD Moons by fadingsignal+ETHEREAL COSMOS - Special Edition+ETHEREAL CLOUDS - Special Edition+Water's Edge Fix+Realistic Water Two+Magical College of Winterhold+Realistic Lighting Overhaul (RLO) SSE All-In-One Installer+Unoffical Vivid Weathers and True Storms Merged Compatibility Patch+True Storms Special Edition - Thunder Rain and Weather Redone+Vivid Weathers-14. Weather Light Effects Water+Solitude and Temple Frescoes SSE+Gecko's Dwarven Ruins Textures+Culling data glitch fix+HD Enhanced Terrain PRO - Blended Version+Just Ice+Skyrim Textures Redone - SkyHaven+Beautiful Honey Signs - 2K Overhaul - 1K Optional+Better Dynamic Snow - Majestic Mountains Patch v1.1+Better Dynamic Snow+Skyrim Better Roads SE - Winterhold Modual+Skyrim Better Roads SE - The Rift Module+Skyrim Better Roads - EastMarch Modual+Skyrim Better Roads+Fences of Skyrim - No more flickering fences+Stunning Statues of Skyrim+Detailed Chests Texture Replacers SE+CC's Fort Dawnguard Reborn+Iron Color Patch FIXED+CC's Enhanced Ore Veins SSE - 2K - 5.0+Book Covers Skyrim+HQ Septims+White Phial Replacer SE+Ren's HD Shrines by Rengel+RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Special Edition+RUSTIC NORDIC MURALS+RUSTIC MONUMENTS AND TOMBSTONES+RUSTIC WORD WALLS 1K+RUSTIC ANIMATED POTIONS and POISONS+RUSTIC COOKING - Special Edition+RUSTIC CLUTTER COLLECTION - Special Edition+RUSTIC WINDOWS - Special Edition+HD Linens+HQ Paper+Enhanced Textures Detail (UV-Tweaks) - Compatibility Patch+HD Photorealistic Ivy+PELTAPALOOZA - Special Edition+RUGNAROK - Special Edition+Designs of the Nords+Deathbell By Mari SE+Deathbell HD - All-New Textures (2K-1K)-13. Final Textures Landscape Objects Changes+Talos Housecarl Armor Pack+Elven Weapon for Silence+UNP Armor and Clothing Replacer+LeanWolf's Better-Shaped Weapons - All in One Installer+Improved closefaced helmets+Gemling Queen Jewelry SE+Left Hand Rings Modified SE+Barenziah's Glory SE+4K Dragon Priest Masks of Immersion+Daedric Dawnbreaker+True HD Nightingale+Elemental Staffs SE+Skaal clothes HD revival+RUSTIC CLOTHING - Special Edition+Skyforge Weapons SSE+Dawn of the Dawnguard Armor+Thieves Guild Armor HD revival+Real Bows (by DecimusMaximus for SSE)+Bandolier - Bags and Pouches Classic+Dark Brotherhood Armor Male 2k+Unique Uniques SE+UNP Body Fit Armors+Immersive Armors+Cloaks and Capes+Winter Is Coming SSE - Cloaks+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Unique Items+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Armors+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Weapons+JS Dragon Claws SE-12. Weapons Armors Objects Re-Textured+Easy Lockpicking+More Tavern Idles+Blowing in the Wind+Skyrim Is Windy - Simply Bigger Trees Patch+Skyrim Is Windy+Simple Auto Unequip Ammo+Auto Unequip Shield to Back+Amazing Follower Tweaks SSE (Dheuster's Original)+SSE High Quality Music+Immersive Sounds Compendium - PATCHES+Immersive Sounds - Compendium+RAO - Alternate Start patch+Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul+Multiple Floors Sandboxing+No BS AI Projectile Dodge (Magic and Arrows) - Immersive Projectiles Nondetection of Enemies+VioLens - A Killmove Mod SE+Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim+Coin Purse - An Overhaul For Skyrim+No More Standing Too Close SSE+No NPC Greetings (Special Edition)+Wearable Lanterns+SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators+OBIS SE Patrols Addon+OBIS SE - Organized Bandits In Skyrim Special Edition+Travellers of Skyrim - Travelers SSE+NPCs Travel+Genesis SE- Dynamically Increased Enemy Spawns and Enhanced Loot+Genesis - Dynamically Increased Enemy Spawns and Enhanced Loot+Hold Border Banners+Ars Metallica - Smithing Enhancement+Immersive Patrols SE+Rebalanced Leveled Lists+Unread Books Glow SSE+Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul+Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch+Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim+20 percent More Perk Points+Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim+No Spinning Death Animation+Gildergreen Regrown+The Paarthurnax Dilemma Patch+Cutting Room Floor Patch - Updated+Alternate Start - Live Another Life Patch+Even Better Quest Objectives - 1.5.8a+BFWF - Cutting Room Floor Patch+Blacksmith Forge Water Fix - Special Edition+The Paarthurnax Dilemma+Stones of Barenziah Quest Markers+Enhanced Blood Textures-11. Fixes Gameplay and Immersive Changes+Vampire Lord Retexture+Gruesome Death Hound+Arvak With or Without Flames - Color Packs - Special Edition+OH GOD BEES SE - More Bees-More Hives-HD Textures+Varied Chickens+Luminescent Luna Moths SE+More Saddles SSE+Realistic Horse Breeds by KrittaKitty+Alternate Blood Red Eye Texture+HD Werewolf Retexture+Dragon.Priest.by.Kajuan+Wispmother.by.Kajuan+Draugr.by.Kajuan+Troll.by.Kajuan+Hagraven.by.Kajuan+Falmer Ear 1K+Falmer.by.Kajuan+SABRECAT.by.Kajuan+Mammoth.by.Kajuan+Chappers Demonic Alduin Mashup+Giant.by.Kajuan+Diverse Dragons Collection SE (DDCse)+Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack (SE)+Bellyaches Animal and Creature Pack-10. Creatures Beasts and Animals Overhaul+Ruined Shrine of Phynaster+Settlements Expanded+Provincial Courier Service+Old Hroldan Ruins SE+JUSTICE - City Exteriors SSE+ONLY Ragged Flagon and Thieves Guild+Distinct Interiors+Dust Effects by HHaleyy+Skyrim SE Improved Puddles+Ultimate HD Torch MedRes - 1024x1024+Ultimate HD Fire Effects compatibility patch+Forges Add-On 1.123+Embers HD+4K diffuse 2K Normalmap - Farmhouse+Point the Way - Kynesgrove Sign+Cutting Room Floor Signs+HD Road Signs - 2K and 4K+Point The Way+Realistic Solitude Arch+Convenient Bridges BETA - Special Edition+Northern Marsh Bridges+Dragon Bridge+Morthal Overhaul+Better Cities Solitude+Kato's Falkreath+Helarchen Creek+Whistling Mine+Soljund's Sinkhole+Karthwasten+Ivarstead+Darkwater Crossing+Shor's Stone+Kynesgrove+Arri's Snow Elf Ruins Retexture Special Edition+HQ College of Winterhold+Jaggarsfeld+Whiterun Stables Tweaks+JK's Whiterun Outskirts V1.4 - SSE+JK's Whiterun+JK's Riverwood-9. Cities Areas Overhaul+Lilly - A fully-voiced female courier replacer and follower+recorder unp 1.01+Recorder - Standalone Fully Voiced Follower+Sofia Customizer SSE - 1.1+Sofia - The Funny Fully Voiced Follower-8. Stand Alone Followers+Campfire - Complete Camping System+Dawnguard Protected Cities+Guards of Skyrim - Whiterun Stables+Fangs and Eyes - A Vampire Appearance Mod+Bijin AIO SSE SV - Mesh Update - UNP+Bijin All in One-SSE+Bijin Wives v1.1+Bijin NPCs v1.2+Bijin Warmaidens SE+Seductive Lips HD SE Edition+Beards+No More Ugly Bronze Shine+Mature Skin 2 UNP(B) (SE)+UNP Female Body Renewal+SkySight Skins - Ultra HD Male Textures and Real Feet Meshes (2K1K VANILLA)+Eye Normal Map Fix SSE+The Witcher 3 Eyes SE+Male Dragonic Argonian Textures 4k - 2k (SOS and Vanilla)+Masculine Khajiit Textures (Grey Cat and Leopard)+Female Dragonic Argonian Textures 4k - 2k(CBBE and UNP)+Feminine Khajiit Textures (Grey Cat and Leopard) [uNP]+Total Character Makeover+Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-+Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch+Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch+Immersive Wenches+KS Hairdos SSE+ApachiiSkyHairMale v 1 2 Optimized+ApachiiSkyHairFemale v 1 5 Optimized+ApachiiSkyHair SSE-6. Characters & NPCs Changes+Ultimate HD Fire Effects -Medium Resolution-+HQ FOOD-INGREDIENTS+Moar Daisies+Blended Roads+Majestic Mountains+Nordic Snow (aka HQ Snow Texture)+Mountain Flower By Mari SE+Tweak for Veydosebrom+Cutting Room Floor Locations+Alternate start- LAL Locations+Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods+Veydosebrom - Grass and Groundcover+Simply Bigger Trees SE - (formerly SkySight SBT)+Realistic Aspen Trees SE+HD LODs Textures SE+Osmodius Imperial Forts Texture Pack+amb farmhouse addon 2k+SSE Texture Pack - Osmodius+HQ Towns and Villages+NSM - SMIM Patch+B. NSM - FULL PACK v.5.3.0 Performance - For Skyrim Special Edition+Skyrim_Realistic_Overhaul_1.7._Update+Skyrim Realistic Overhaul Part 3+Skyrim Realistic Overhaul Part 2+Skyrim Realistic Overhaul Part 1+Enhanced Textures Detail (UV-tweaks)+Ruins Clutter Improved+Static Mesh Improvement Mod-5. Huge Changes in Texture Critical Meshes Environmnet+Beyond Reach+The Forgotten City-4. Unofficial DLCs Quest+XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended+Essential Lydia+Lore-Based Loading Screens+Main Menu Spinning Skyrim Emblem+Clean Menu -- All in One (60 FPS)+More Map Markers+Map Markers Complete with DLC and OCS+SSIRT v3.0+A Quality World Map - Clear Map Skies+8.4 A Quality World Map - Classic with All Roads+Better MessageBox Controls+Better Dialogue Controls+Psychosteves SkyUI icons v+SkyUI - Ported Version 2.2 -Removed Warrning+Alternate Start - Live Another Life+Fast Travel Speed Fix+Sovngarde - Mist's Font Replacer SE+Rich Skyrim Merchants+Cutting Room Floor+Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch+Insignificant Inconsistencies Fix+CLARALUX SSE - Controllable Lights Everywhere-3. The Critical Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothpunk4Christ Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Halfway surprised to not see convenient horses in there, although this was a pretty long list. We do share some commons (AS-LAL.fast travel speed fix, SkyUI, and a few others) but I'm going back through my level 10 save game file and noticed the strings and scripts aren't much higher than my original starting save. At level 10, I'm running with 37,690 strings and 6,156 scripts. My starting save in 37,570 and 6104 respectively. This is also with me going halfway across the map. I would say I've only covered about 1/4 of the map, just running around exploring, and doing a few quests, mostly just running around to NPC intensive areas (thanks to Warzones) and looting. I normally start as a loot hauling khajiit merchant... not sure why... but I always have wares and NPCs always have coin. Until I've run them dry anyways, then I still have wares, and more coin. I haven't encountered this particular bug yet in my newest playthrough, but I did drop a few mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebkidd Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I have added Falskaar and Realistic Conversations. I played it for over 2 hours with no problem. The number of beginning strings is just under 38,000. I am up to level 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothpunk4Christ Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I think I was already running RC and never played with Falskaar, but I do remember when I first started having the trouble, it progressively got worse, to the point where if I immediately had to reload, and die, I would have to quit and reload, even if I literally just opened a save (I had a few instances where it'd saved right during bandit attacks). I do believe if I end up hitting close to 40 again, if I may have another "time bomb" episode where every load will result in near instant "corruption." At least I won't have Mrisi trying to shove me off cliffs with her stinking saber cat this time. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alzender Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) Do we know if hitting the 65,535 strings limit also corrupts our saves for good on skyrim SE, with no hope for loading the save again? I find my strings number growing a little bit too fast (48k at lvl 15) and I'm afraid of losing my save prematurely. I have the hope though, that Skyrim SE manages the strings differently than Skyrim LE. Anyone can confirm this? Edited July 20, 2017 by Alzender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonycubed2 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 That is my believe, and exactly the problem I was having. The game will continue, but all saves after that are poisoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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