Started a New Game, Had No Starter Magic. What Happend?

[BabyJAHA]

I recently started a New Game in Skyrim, with the intention of playing a hybrid warrior and wizard. When I was done making my character I equipped a sword on one hand and wanted to put flames on the other. Yet when I when to the Magick/Spells Menu I had no starter spells, Race specific ability was the only thing there. Where or why are the spells gone?

 

Here's my Load Order if that helps:

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

7 7 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

8 8 SGHairPackBase.esm

9 9 ApachiiHair.esm

10 a ApachiiHairFemales.esm

11 b ApachiiHairMales.esm

12 c NPCs.esm

13 d TravellersOfSkyrim.esm

14 e hdtHighHeel.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

15 f Cutting Room Floor.esp

16 10 SkyUI.esp

17 11 iHUD.esp

18 12 AMatterOfTime.esp

19 13 Vividian - Weather Patch CoT.esp

20 14 Vividian - Extended Weathers - CoT.esp

21 15 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp

22 16 Vivid Landscapes.esp

23 17 immersive roads.esp

24 18 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

25 19 JKs Skyrim.esp

26 1a ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp

27 1b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

28 1c ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

29 1d mintylightningmod.esp

30 1e MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

31 1f WondersofWeather.esp

32 20 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

33 21 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

34 22 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

35 23 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

36 24 WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp

37 25 WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp

CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp

38 26 MikanEyes All in one.esp

39 27 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp

40 28 Beards.esp

41 29 Brows.esp

42 2a SGEyebrows.esp

43 2b KS Hairdo's.esp

44 2c SGHairPackAIO.esp

45 2d Vividian - Torches Preset.esp

46 2e Vividian - Wearable Lanterns Preset.esp

47 2f Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp

48 30 DovahBlingJewelryStandalone.esp

49 31 Convenient Horses.esp

50 32 HonedMetal.esp

51 33 IndividualizedShoutCooldowns.esp

52 34 When Vampires Attack.esp

53 35 SimplyKnock.esp

54 36 BHWarPaints.esp

55 37 AV1WarpaintPack.esp

56 38 AV1DragonPaint.esp

57 39 BFWarpaints.esp

58 3a ScarvesOfSkyrim - Linds.esp

59 3b LadyMask.esp

60 3c DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp

61 3d CharmingHighHeels.esp

62 3e Weapons and Armor fixes.esp

63 3f AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

64 40 3DNPC.esp

65 41 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

66 42 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

67 43 Vividian - Weather Patch Vanilla.esp

68 44 RevampedExteriorFog.esp

69 45 TrueStorms.esp

70 46 Supreme Storms.esp

71 47 TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp

72 48 TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp

73 49 AsharaDimonizedDress.esp

74 4a Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

75 4b KS Jewelry.esp

76 4c Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp

77 4d Book Covers Skyrim.esp

78 4e RealisticWaterTwo.esp

79 4f Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp

80 50 Descentintomadness2.esp

81 51 fallentreebridges.esp

82 52 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

83 53 Improved Artifacts - Complete Collection.esp

84 54 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

85 55 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

86 56 Undeath.esp

87 57 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

88 58 Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp

89 59 Immersive Weapons.esp

90 5a WarmongerArmory_LeveledList.esp

91 5b Laundry.esp

92 5c Run For Your Lives.esp

93 5d Cloaks.esp

94 5e SMIM-Merged-All.esp

95 5f Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

96 60 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp

97 61 SFO - Dragonborn.esp

98 62 SkySight-Simply-Bigger-Trees-Slower-Branches.esp

99 63 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

100 64 ForgottenCity.esp

101 65 Unique Uniques.esp

102 66 Dr_Bandolier.esp

103 67 1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp

104 68 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch-NoGuards.esp

105 69 Celes Nightingale Armor.esp

106 6a Gwelda Dawnguard Armor.esp

107 6b MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp

108 6c TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp

109 6d Colorful_Magic.esp

110 6e Thunderchild - Dragon Language Words Patch.esp

111 6f MLPSoulGems.esp

112 70 3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp

113 71 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

114 72 Sneak Tools.esp

115 73 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp

116 74 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp

117 75 Equippable Tomes.esp

118 76 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

119 77 BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp

120 78 DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp

121 79 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp

122 7a Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0.esp

123 7b Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp

124 7c Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp

125 7d MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp

126 7e BlackSacramentArmor.esp

127 7f Mage Robes.esp

128 80 DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp

129 81 ESO Breton Knight by NewrMind43.esp

130 82 Ish's Souls to Perks.esp

131 83 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

132 84 Quick Start - Skip the Opening Sequence.esp

133 85 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp

134 86 LustmordVampireArmor.esp

135 87 LindsVaerminaRobes_SA.esp

136 88 Evil MasterMind Armor.esp

137 89 Daedric Reaper Armor.esp

138 8a TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

139 8b PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp

140 8c Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp

141 8d AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp

142 8e 3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn.esp

AFT_iNPCFix.esp

143 8f FNIS.esp

144 90 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

145 91 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

146 92 XPMSE.esp

147 93 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

148 94 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

149 95 Dual Sheath Redux.esp

150 96 RaceMenu.esp

151 97 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

TES5Merged.esp

152 98 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

153 99 PatchusMaximus.esp

154 9a Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

Edited December 27, 2016 by BabyJAHA

[snelss0]

Load order potential issues:
1 JK Skyrim is not compatible with NPC editing mods, and particularly on the forums/post sections it mentions it is not compatible with Immersive NPCs and Cutting Room Floor. Might want to check on that.
2. You have Complete Crafting Overhaul. Make sure you've read the mod page for the required mods you need and what the proper load order it asks for for them.
3. Your Verdant plugin should probably go below your SFO Dragonborn, and make sure you've done the .ini changes they list on both mod pages.
4. I know Apocalypse messes with your spells and starting scripts, but it works wonderfully by itself, so perhaps something is conflicting with it. If you are using Mod Organizer, look in the conflicts section for this mod and see what is overwriting it. Perhaps put it lower in your load order.
5. Dance of death is outdated and is considered a dangerous mod. Use Violens instead.
6. If you have more than one mod affecting your perks, it perhaps could mess with some things and cause your issue, but I've never heard of it doing this. I know that any mod that messes with perks when you have Perkimus Maximus can conflict badly, but once again, I don't recognize anything.

What I think may be the problem would be something perhaps between your soulgems, colorful magic, souls to perks, apocalypse, and your shouts mod. I don't use any of these, but the culprit may be in there somewhere.

[BabyJAHA]

Load order potential issues:

1 JK Skyrim is not compatible with NPC editing mods, and particularly on the forums/post sections it mentions it is not compatible with Immersive NPCs and Cutting Room Floor. Might want to check on that.

2. You have Complete Crafting Overhaul. Make sure you've read the mod page for the required mods you need and what the proper load order it asks for for them.

3. Your Verdant plugin should probably go below your SFO Dragonborn, and make sure you've done the .ini changes they list on both mod pages.

4. I know Apocalypse messes with your spells and starting scripts, but it works wonderfully by itself, so perhaps something is conflicting with it. If you are using Mod Organizer, look in the conflicts section for this mod and see what is overwriting it. Perhaps put it lower in your load order.

5. Dance of death is outdated and is considered a dangerous mod. Use Violens instead.

6. If you have more than one mod affecting your perks, it perhaps could mess with some things and cause your issue, but I've never heard of it doing this. I know that any mod that messes with perks when you have Perkimus Maximus can conflict badly, but once again, I don't recognize anything.

 

What I think may be the problem would be something perhaps between your soulgems, colorful magic, souls to perks, apocalypse, and your shouts mod. I don't use any of these, but the culprit may be in there somewhere.

I tried what you said and also uninstalled the dance of death for your recommendation. Nothing worked though, the game is perfectly stable. Just that the missing spells is bothering me. I ended up adding the starting spells for my race with the console commands.

[Bugnexus7]

That "Colorful_Spells.esp" looks suspicious...

 

EDIT: Just looked at that mods comment section and it sounds horribly buggy and the author is MIA.

Disable that mod, and give it another whirl.

Edited December 28, 2016 by Bugnexus7

[snelss0]

Make sure when you are testing it out after making changes that it is on a new game.

Edited December 28, 2016 by snelss0

[BabyJAHA]

I started another character again and this one did have some magic (a Breton) though it was not the magic they usually start with. I'm thinking that one of the mods I installed made it so certain races begin or not with magic. Such as Nords or Redguards being better warrior type character and Breton and Dark Elves being better wizard. IDK that's my though.

[snelss0]

Yeah, you may be right. I am not sure of a mod doing that, so it's news to me. You can always disable all of your magic mods, start a new game, see if the problem persists. If it doesn't, then slowly reactive each of the mods that mess with combat/magic one at a time and see which one it is.