scottym23 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Wanted to roleplay a true Nord character, was going pretty good other then no true Nord armor besides ancient Nord armor (which wasn't what I was really going for, since i'm a recent Nord and not an ancient one..). Steel plate armor, boots, gauntlets, with the helm of Yngol was the most Nord looking apparel I found. Then I came across steel nordic gauntlets...there was hope! That must mean there are other pieces of steel nordic apparel, right? WRONG. Apparently the developers must have gotten tired at creating this type of armor, and stopped short at the gauntlets and pretty much said screw the rest of that armor set. I think a mod is in order to create the rest of this unfinished armor set, which would be the steel nordic full helmet, steel nordic armor, and steel nordic boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoragoros Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Actually...any armor EXCEPT those that are named after a particular race is Nordic armor. For example, Leather Armor, Steel Armor, Guard Armor, Ebony Armor, Hide, Fur, etc are all Nordic-type or Nordic-variantions of that armor since you're in Skyrim. Except for Elven and Orcish armor, I really can't think of any armor that ISNT Nordic/Nordic-variant since this IS Skyrim we're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottym23 Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Actually...any armor EXCEPT those that are named after a particular race is Nordic armor. For example, Leather Armor, Steel Armor, Guard Armor, Ebony Armor, Hide, Fur, etc are all Nordic-type or Nordic-variantions of that armor since you're in Skyrim. Except for Elven and Orcish armor, I really can't think of any armor that ISNT Nordic/Nordic-variant since this IS Skyrim we're talking about.Actually....no? Excuse my rudeness but you make no sense. Saying that Leather, steel Guard, ebony, hide, and fur armors are Nord armors is like saying arrows are Nord weapons...That isn't the case at all. Just because a Nord may use these at some time doesn't mean that they are associated with that race. Just as you previously stated, "Except for Elven and Orcish armor," Orcish armor and Elven armor are associated with their respected races because they are iconic and a symbol of that race. Thinking that a weapon or armor is "Nordic" just because it's in Skyrim is extremely foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanusForbeare Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) Actually...any armor EXCEPT those that are named after a particular race is Nordic armor. For example, Leather Armor, Steel Armor, Guard Armor, Ebony Armor, Hide, Fur, etc are all Nordic-type or Nordic-variantions of that armor since you're in Skyrim. Except for Elven and Orcish armor, I really can't think of any armor that ISNT Nordic/Nordic-variant since this IS Skyrim we're talking about. That's an interesting point, and one that didn't occur to me as I was reading the OP's post. I think you're right on that count. That being said, there are some obvious exceptions to the rule. You've named a couple (Elven and Orcish - and even the Orcish weapons and armour show stylistic differences from their predecessors in other games, suggesting that the Skyrim strongholds developed their smithing techniques in seclusion). Other examples of armour smithing techniques that are clearly not of Nordic origin would be Imperial (I often worry how much of a problem shrinkage is for the Legion) and possibly Daedric. EDIT (@ ScottyM): First of all, saying 'Excuse my rudeness' does not give you carte blanche to be insulting or provocative. Secondly, the majority of armour in Skyrim is manufactured domestically. This is obvious to anyone who's spent any time speaking with the blacksmiths. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that the 'Nordic' style is a cosmetic style that can be applied to any number of materials, rather than a unique set of armour made using special materials and techniques (as is the case with Elven and Orcish). This argument is reinforced by the fact that there has never been any armour in TES lore referred to as 'Nordic'. Thoragoros' suggestion makes far more sense in terms of game lore than your own. Edited January 10, 2012 by JanusForbeare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottym23 Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Actually...any armor EXCEPT those that are named after a particular race is Nordic armor. For example, Leather Armor, Steel Armor, Guard Armor, Ebony Armor, Hide, Fur, etc are all Nordic-type or Nordic-variantions of that armor since you're in Skyrim. Except for Elven and Orcish armor, I really can't think of any armor that ISNT Nordic/Nordic-variant since this IS Skyrim we're talking about. That's an interesting point, and one that didn't occur to me as I was reading the OP's post. I think you're right on that count. That being said, there are some obvious exceptions to the rule. You've named a couple (Elven and Orcish - and even the Orcish weapons and armour show stylistic differences from their predecessors in other games, suggesting that the Skyrim strongholds developed their smithing techniques in seclusion). Other examples of armour smithing techniques that are clearly not of Nordic origin would be Imperial (I often worry how much of a problem shrinkage is for the Legion) and possibly Daedric.I agree with you, but Steel, Iron, Hide, and Guard armors aren't associated with Nords. When I mean nordic items, I mean pieces of armor and weapons that are automatically associated with Nords, just like Orcish armor is automatically associated with Orks. Steel, Iron, Hide, and Gaurd armors are used by all races in every region of Tamriel. No one would associate any of those armors as specifically Nordic. Steel Nordic gauntlets however, would be associated with Nords (obviously as the name of the gauntlets does). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perraine Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I think if you want to get THAT specific about things,there are Steel Cuffed Boots which are (almost) identical to the Nordic Gauntlets in style, then too you should be looking at the Wolf Armor (worn by some of the Male Companions) the Iron Armor variants, the Studded Armor (worn by one of the female Companions) or the Stormcloak Officer Armor ... Steel Plate Armor was historically an Roman/Italian and Norman Armor and not Nordic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottym23 Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) I think if you want to get THAT specific about things,there are Steel Cuffed Boots which are (almost) identical to the Nordic Gauntlets in style, then too you should be looking at the Wolf Armor (worn by some of the Male Companions) the Iron Armor variants, the Studded Armor (worn by one of the female Companions) or the Stormcloak Officer Armor ... Steel Plate Armor was historically an Roman/Italian and Norman Armor and not NordicNot to be an ass, but Originally steel plate armor was to be called Nord Plate Armor, as seen in the book of concept art which came with the collectors version of the game.But thanks for your input and truly understanding what I mean on this topic! You seem to be the first person to understand :P. I'll probably get steel cuffed boots now that I think about it, thanks! Edited January 10, 2012 by scottym23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perraine Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 It's still called Nord Plate in the .nifs and texture files but that doesn't mean that Bethesda got it right either, there's is a fine line between "Poetic/Artistic License" and historical fact ... I do agree though that It would be good to see a "Nord" Armor ... I've made a request for a 3D modeller to help with creating a more 'Nordic" style Armor, so far though, no takers ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoragoros Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 (edited) Actually...any armor EXCEPT those that are named after a particular race is Nordic armor. For example, Leather Armor, Steel Armor, Guard Armor, Ebony Armor, Hide, Fur, etc are all Nordic-type or Nordic-variantions of that armor since you're in Skyrim. Except for Elven and Orcish armor, I really can't think of any armor that ISNT Nordic/Nordic-variant since this IS Skyrim we're talking about.Actually....no? Excuse my rudeness but you make no sense. Saying that Leather, steel Guard, ebony, hide, and fur armors are Nord armors is like saying arrows are Nord weapons...That isn't the case at all. Just because a Nord may use these at some time doesn't mean that they are associated with that race. Just as you previously stated, "Except for Elven and Orcish armor," Orcish armor and Elven armor are associated with their respected races because they are iconic and a symbol of that race. Thinking that a weapon or armor is "Nordic" just because it's in Skyrim is extremely foolish. No need to name call. Anyway, you're really missing the mark. Think about it this way, when a Nord in Skyrim goes out and hunts a deer to make leather, and then turns that leather either into Hide Armor or Leather Armor, that is in fact "Nordic Leather Armor" or "Nordic Hide Armor." The thing is, we don't need everything tagged 'Nordic' just drive home something that painfully obvious. Now, another example, think about the weapons and armor tagged 'Elven.' Do you honestly believe that those are the only types of swords and armor the Elves use? The answer is no. But those are weapons/armor typical of what might be found in Summerset Isles. The same is true of Skyrim, there is no one special set of armor or weapons that exclusively Nordic, Skyrim is a big place, and its people feature many types of armor and weapons that they can call their own. You are in Skyrim, home of the Nords. Unless it is otherwise stated, it is safe to assume that pretty much everything around you is "Nordic." Bethesda even included tags on certain items like "Imperial Sword" and "Elven Sword" to help you realize that. So, otherwise can I ask what would make you think that the Leather Armor found or made in the Nordic homeland isn't 'Nordic Leather Armor,' or do you honestly need the 'Nordic' tag put on every item? Edited January 10, 2012 by Thoragoros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealBigSwede Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Guy the north (Viking) was wearing leather with rings sawed in or the whole body ring mail suit but only the very wealthy Viking. Mostwhen into battle with a leather shirt and clought trouser and some [flug svamp] (a strong poisonous/hallucinations mushroom take to much and you are dead) and they when Berserks. The steel layered armor was an roman invention and the steel body armor likethe knights was a British/French/German invitation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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