LE Come on Bethesda....

[scottym23]

Actually...any armor EXCEPT those that are named after a particular race is Nordic armor. For example, Leather Armor, Steel Armor, Guard Armor, Ebony Armor, Hide, Fur, etc are all Nordic-type or Nordic-variantions of that armor since you're in Skyrim.

 

Except for Elven and Orcish armor, I really can't think of any armor that ISNT Nordic/Nordic-variant since this IS Skyrim we're talking about.

Actually....no? Excuse my rudeness but you make no sense. Saying that Leather, steel Guard, ebony, hide, and fur armors are Nord armors is like saying arrows are Nord weapons...That isn't the case at all. Just because a Nord may use these at some time doesn't mean that they are associated with that race. Just as you previously stated, "Except for Elven and Orcish armor," Orcish armor and Elven armor are associated with their respected races because they are iconic and a symbol of that race. Thinking that a weapon or armor is "Nordic" just because it's in Skyrim is extremely foolish.

 

No need to name call.

 

Anyway, you're really missing the mark. Think about it this way, when a Nord in Skyrim goes out and hunts a deer to make leather, and then turns that leather either into Hide Armor or Leather Armor, that is in fact "Nordic Leather Armor" or "Nordic Hide Armor." The thing is, we don't need everything tagged 'Nordic' just drive home something that painfully obvious.

 

Now, another example, think about the weapons and armor tagged 'Elven.' Do you honestly believe that those are the only types of swords and armor the Elves use? The answer is no. But those are weapons/armor typical of what might be found in Summerset Isles. The same is true of Skyrim, there is no one special set of armor or weapons that exclusively Nordic, Skyrim is a big place, and its people feature many types of armor and weapons that they can call their own.

 

You are in Skyrim, home of the Nords. Unless it is otherwise stated, it is safe to assume that pretty much everything around you is "Nordic." Bethesda even included tags on certain items like "Imperial Sword" and "Elven Sword" to help you realize that.

 

So, otherwise can I ask what would make you think that the Leather Armor found or made in the Nordic homeland isn't 'Nordic Leather Armor,' or do you honestly need the 'Nordic' tag put on every item?

You're actually the one missing the mark. Telling me it doesn't matter if the 'Nordic' tag is on a specific item, when clearly that's what I was asking for when I created this topic, is pretty pointless don't you think? You're trying to tell me what I said isn't what I meant, when i'm pretty sure I know what I meant better then you do. And no need for name calling? I said what he was referring to wasn't true, and that his way of thinking was foolish, not him personally. So please don't make accusations that I'm name calling when i'm really not. And even if I did call him foolish (Which I didn't) that's the least insulting insult there is..you shouldn't take much offense to that.

[scottym23]

Guy the north (Viking) was wearing leather with rings sawed in or the whole body ring mail suit but only the very wealthy Viking. Mostwhen into battle with a leather shirt and clought trouser and some [flug svamp] (a strong poisonous/hallucinations mushroom take to much and you are dead) and they when Berserks.

 

The steel layered armor was an roman invention and the steel body armor likethe knights was a British/French/German invitation

 

To the first part of your statement, to be perfectly honest I have no idea what you were trying to say. In the second part of your statement where you say steel layered armor was a roman invention and the steel body armor like the knights was a British/French/German invention (At least I think you meant invention and not invitation), I already responded to someone else saying something along those lines with the fact that Originally steel plate armor was to be called Nord Plate Armor, as seen in the book of concept art which came with the collectors version of the game.

[JMMcNemo]

I'll probably get snarked at if I suggest these guys as costume reference. ^_^

 

 

But if I could have

as a monster I'd be very happy. ^_^

[scottym23]

I'll probably get snarked at if I suggest these guys as costume reference. ^_^

 

 

But if I could have

as a monster I'd be very happy. ^_^

Haha that's EXACTLY what I mean! You understand me perfectly :P.

[JMMcNemo]

I'll probably get snarked at if I suggest these guys as costume reference. ^_^

 

 

But if I could have

as a monster I'd be very happy. ^_^

Haha that's EXACTLY what I mean! You understand me perfectly :P.

 

 

I got told that "Real Vikings" never wore helmets like that, but then they actually found one in an archaeological dig in Yorvick, in York, England; so I say whatever, gimme some cartoon vikings and I'm happy. ^_^

[scottym23]

Actually...any armor EXCEPT those that are named after a particular race is Nordic armor. For example, Leather Armor, Steel Armor, Guard Armor, Ebony Armor, Hide, Fur, etc are all Nordic-type or Nordic-variantions of that armor since you're in Skyrim.

 

Except for Elven and Orcish armor, I really can't think of any armor that ISNT Nordic/Nordic-variant since this IS Skyrim we're talking about.

 

That's an interesting point, and one that didn't occur to me as I was reading the OP's post. I think you're right on that count. That being said, there are some obvious exceptions to the rule. You've named a couple (Elven and Orcish - and even the Orcish weapons and armour show stylistic differences from their predecessors in other games, suggesting that the Skyrim strongholds developed their smithing techniques in seclusion). Other examples of armour smithing techniques that are clearly not of Nordic origin would be Imperial (I often worry how much of a problem shrinkage is for the Legion) and possibly Daedric.

 

EDIT (@ ScottyM): First of all, saying 'Excuse my rudeness' does not give you carte blanche to be insulting or provocative. Secondly, the majority of armour in Skyrim is manufactured domestically. This is obvious to anyone who's spent any time speaking with the blacksmiths. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that the 'Nordic' style is a cosmetic style that can be applied to any number of materials, rather than a unique set of armour made using special materials and techniques (as is the case with Elven and Orcish). This argument is reinforced by the fact that there has never been any armour in TES lore referred to as 'Nordic'. Thoragoros' suggestion makes far more sense in terms of game lore than your own.

I was saying 'Excuse my rudeness' to be funny, as I truly said nothing anyone should find rude. If you took my saying what you were referring to as not true, or calling what you were saying "foolish", then I suggest you never leave the confines of your room, because the world is a lot crueler then petty remarks some person over the internet, who really isn't insulting you might say. Secondly, Thoragoros' suggestion only makes sense in the most broad sense of thinking, which isn't what this thread is about. I am roleplaying and trying to be extremely selective with what Nord armor I wear. Just because a blacksmith in Skyrim (who may be a Nord) makes armor for other Nords even, doesn't mean that it's Nordic specific armor. If you haven't gotten an idea of what this thread is about somehow, I'll try to explain it to you.. I want to find Nord specific armor. This means I want people to know that I'm a Nord just by what I'm wearing. An Ork in Orcish armor does this, same as Elven armor. Well I want the equivalent in NORD armor. Someone who sees a person in Fur armor doesn't say, "Look, that must be a Nord!" So before you go saying other peoples suggestions are "better" then mine (which doesn't make any sense by the way), maybe you should stop and think what I'm even really asking, since it seems you haven't grasped even the simplest of concepts this thread is about. And another thing, this thread was never about 'Lore friendly'. There is already an armor piece in the game called, "Steel Nordic gauntlets". There aren't any other steel Nordic armor pieces. It is extremely Lore friendly to add other armor pieces of the steel Nordic category, and nothing can get any Lore friendly then that.

[scottym23]

I'll probably get snarked at if I suggest these guys as costume reference. ^_^

 

 

But if I could have

as a monster I'd be very happy. ^_^

Haha that's EXACTLY what I mean! You understand me perfectly :P.

 

 

I got told that "Real Vikings" never wore helmets like that, but then they actually found one in an archaeological dig in Yorvick, in York, England; so I say whatever, gimme some cartoon vikings and I'm happy. ^_^

It's amazing what we are discovering every day :). All they need to do is find dragon remains haha. If they found dragon remains wearing a viking helmet, my life would be complete =D

[Thoragoros]

Actually...any armor EXCEPT those that are named after a particular race is Nordic armor. For example, Leather Armor, Steel Armor, Guard Armor, Ebony Armor, Hide, Fur, etc are all Nordic-type or Nordic-variantions of that armor since you're in Skyrim.

 

Except for Elven and Orcish armor, I really can't think of any armor that ISNT Nordic/Nordic-variant since this IS Skyrim we're talking about.

Actually....no? Excuse my rudeness but you make no sense. Saying that Leather, steel Guard, ebony, hide, and fur armors are Nord armors is like saying arrows are Nord weapons...That isn't the case at all. Just because a Nord may use these at some time doesn't mean that they are associated with that race. Just as you previously stated, "Except for Elven and Orcish armor," Orcish armor and Elven armor are associated with their respected races because they are iconic and a symbol of that race. Thinking that a weapon or armor is "Nordic" just because it's in Skyrim is extremely foolish.

 

No need to name call.

 

Anyway, you're really missing the mark. Think about it this way, when a Nord in Skyrim goes out and hunts a deer to make leather, and then turns that leather either into Hide Armor or Leather Armor, that is in fact "Nordic Leather Armor" or "Nordic Hide Armor." The thing is, we don't need everything tagged 'Nordic' just drive home something that painfully obvious.

 

Now, another example, think about the weapons and armor tagged 'Elven.' Do you honestly believe that those are the only types of swords and armor the Elves use? The answer is no. But those are weapons/armor typical of what might be found in Summerset Isles. The same is true of Skyrim, there is no one special set of armor or weapons that exclusively Nordic, Skyrim is a big place, and its people feature many types of armor and weapons that they can call their own.

 

You are in Skyrim, home of the Nords. Unless it is otherwise stated, it is safe to assume that pretty much everything around you is "Nordic." Bethesda even included tags on certain items like "Imperial Sword" and "Elven Sword" to help you realize that.

 

So, otherwise can I ask what would make you think that the Leather Armor found or made in the Nordic homeland isn't 'Nordic Leather Armor,' or do you honestly need the 'Nordic' tag put on every item?

You're actually the one missing the mark. Telling me it doesn't matter if the 'Nordic' tag is on a specific item, when clearly that's what I was asking for when I created this topic, is pretty pointless don't you think? You're trying to tell me what I said isn't what I meant, when i'm pretty sure I know what I meant better then you do. And no need for name calling? I said what he was referring to wasn't true, and that his way of thinking was foolish, not him personally. So please don't make accusations that I'm name calling when i'm really not. And even if I did call him foolish (Which I didn't) that's the least insulting insult there is..you shouldn't take much offense to that.

 

 

You were asking for 'Nordic' items...in Skyrim, the Nordic homeland. Pardon us if we don't want 'Nordic' tags written on everything from leather to hide to steel. It's Skyrim, you should be assuming it's Nordic.

 

That's like asking where the Japanese food is when you're sitting in a Japanese restaurant with a pile of sushi in front of you. :rolleyes:

Edited January 10, 2012 by Thoragoros

[scottym23]

Actually...any armor EXCEPT those that are named after a particular race is Nordic armor. For example, Leather Armor, Steel Armor, Guard Armor, Ebony Armor, Hide, Fur, etc are all Nordic-type or Nordic-variantions of that armor since you're in Skyrim.

 

Except for Elven and Orcish armor, I really can't think of any armor that ISNT Nordic/Nordic-variant since this IS Skyrim we're talking about.

Actually....no? Excuse my rudeness but you make no sense. Saying that Leather, steel Guard, ebony, hide, and fur armors are Nord armors is like saying arrows are Nord weapons...That isn't the case at all. Just because a Nord may use these at some time doesn't mean that they are associated with that race. Just as you previously stated, "Except for Elven and Orcish armor," Orcish armor and Elven armor are associated with their respected races because they are iconic and a symbol of that race. Thinking that a weapon or armor is "Nordic" just because it's in Skyrim is extremely foolish.

 

No need to name call.

 

Anyway, you're really missing the mark. Think about it this way, when a Nord in Skyrim goes out and hunts a deer to make leather, and then turns that leather either into Hide Armor or Leather Armor, that is in fact "Nordic Leather Armor" or "Nordic Hide Armor." The thing is, we don't need everything tagged 'Nordic' just drive home something that painfully obvious.

 

Now, another example, think about the weapons and armor tagged 'Elven.' Do you honestly believe that those are the only types of swords and armor the Elves use? The answer is no. But those are weapons/armor typical of what might be found in Summerset Isles. The same is true of Skyrim, there is no one special set of armor or weapons that exclusively Nordic, Skyrim is a big place, and its people feature many types of armor and weapons that they can call their own.

 

You are in Skyrim, home of the Nords. Unless it is otherwise stated, it is safe to assume that pretty much everything around you is "Nordic." Bethesda even included tags on certain items like "Imperial Sword" and "Elven Sword" to help you realize that.

 

So, otherwise can I ask what would make you think that the Leather Armor found or made in the Nordic homeland isn't 'Nordic Leather Armor,' or do you honestly need the 'Nordic' tag put on every item?

You're actually the one missing the mark. Telling me it doesn't matter if the 'Nordic' tag is on a specific item, when clearly that's what I was asking for when I created this topic, is pretty pointless don't you think? You're trying to tell me what I said isn't what I meant, when i'm pretty sure I know what I meant better then you do. And no need for name calling? I said what he was referring to wasn't true, and that his way of thinking was foolish, not him personally. So please don't make accusations that I'm name calling when i'm really not. And even if I did call him foolish (Which I didn't) that's the least insulting insult there is..you shouldn't take much offense to that.

 

 

You were asking for 'Nordic' items...in Skyrim, the Nordic homeland. Pardon us if we don't want 'Nordic' tags written on everything from leather to hide to steel. It's Skyrim, you should be assuming it's Nordic.

 

That's like asking where the Japanese food is when you're sitting in a Japanese restaurant with a pile of sushi in front of you. :rolleyes:

When you see Sushi, what do you think? "Oh that Japanese food". When you see fur armor, what do you think? "Oh, that Nordic armor." <------Not so much... That's all I really have to say for that really, since that's all I really need to say. And as for the 'Nordic' Tags, You read my main topic post, knew what I was looking for, and yet post anyway. Very smart of you good sir.

[Anunnak]

From what I understand, Vikings wore chain mail when available, usually the armour consisted of tanned leather mixed with cloth(like a sweater but more loose fitting). Swords were kept simple, as were axes. When I was in Norway 2006, the museums had some amazing collections of swords and helmets, some swords had runes etched into them, armour representation was scarce, helmets had no horns or wings lol, they had what looked like visors to shield the eyes. So yeah I don't think there is a true representation of what you could call Nord armour in our historical sense. In gaming terms, the steel armour with bits of fur sticking out is closest you'll get to Nord. It would have to be modeled and modded into the game.