CTD When Talking to Jarl Balgruuf During First Main Quest

[beewyka819]

When Balgruuf is in the middle of talking during the first main quest with him, the game always CTD's.

 

My load order is (sorted with LOOT):

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp

Campfire.esm

Falskaar.esm

Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

RSkyrimChildren.esm

ar7_magelightdynamicshadow.esp

invincible dogs.esp

noborderssol.esp

relentlessforce.esp

dragonbornhouse1.esp

shezriesshack.esp

manor roads.esp

dawnguard map markers.esp

50 More Perk Points.esp

Aethernautics.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Ars Metallica.esp

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp

Tel Mithryn.esp

blackreachrailroadnew.esp

Blacksmith Forge Water Fix Se USSEP.esp

Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp

Blowing in the Wind SSE - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp

Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp

Capes&Cloaks.esp

Clockwork.esp

Conan_Hyborian_Age.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp (Just noticed that this is before the main better quest objectives esp)

DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp

Dolmen Ruins.esp

Dragon Claw Stands.esp

Dwemer Goggles and Scouter.esp

Dwemer Storage Cube.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp

ExpandedCarriageService.esp

Footprints.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

Skaal Village.esp

00marzHearthfireLumberReq.esp

Helgen Reborn.esp

Blwoing in the Wind - Helgen Reborn Patch SSE.esp

shezhelgreenhouse.esp

shezrieshfkitchenhel.esp

Holidays.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_ArmorCompilation.esp

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

Karthwasten.esp

shezrieslakeviewgreenhouse.esp

ShezriesLakeviewkitchen.esp

ZIR_woodchopping.esp

LSFX-SSE-Audiosettings.esp

Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

00MarzWindhelmHome.esp

Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp

No Snow Under The Roof -CRF Patch.esp

Open Cities Skyrim.esp

Blowing in the Wind - Open Cities Skyrim Patch SSE.esp

Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp

Open Cities Skyrim - Holidays.esp

Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

Point The Way.esp

Practice Dummies.esp

Practice Dummies - Falskaar.esp

RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp

Real Roads.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

RealisticWaterTwo++Verdant+Patch.esp

Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp

RAO - Alternate Start Patch.esp

RichMerchantsSkyrim x10.esp

RSChildren - Complete.esp

RSChildren - ACK.esp

RSChildren_PatchUSSEP.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

Shadowmarks.esp

Raven Rock.esp

Raven Rock - Clockwork Patch.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

Soljund's Sinkhole.esp

SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp

Tel Mithryn Prison.esp

ForgottenCity.esp

middenexpandedSSE.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp

UnreadBooksGlow.esp

Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp

Vivid WeathersSE.esp

Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp

Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp

Volkihar Knights.esp

WetandCold.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

Whistling Mine.esp

Whistling Mine - No Snow Under the Roof.esp

WICO - Immersive Character.esp

WICO - Immersive People.esp

WICO - USSEP Compatible Patch.esp

WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp

WICO - Wild Hunt Gears.esp

ShezrieWinstadGreenhouse.esp

shezrieswinstadhearthfirekitchen.esp

CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
TES5Merged.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

(Keep in mind, some esp's are merged into the bashed patch)

Edited January 8, 2017 by beewyka819

[iXenite]

The appropriate load order for the Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch is as follows:

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
Hearthfires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
[The rest of your mods]

 

Try running LOOT again, and apply its changes. LOOT should apply the order I've shared with you just now, at least it does for me. If it doesn't you can set a rule inside LOOT that makes it load your mods that way. See if that fixes it. There is a good chance that is not what is causing your issue, but it is worth a try at least.

 

LOOT Meta Rule Instructions Guide:

http://wiki.step-project.com/LOOT/Meta_Rule_Instructions

[beewyka819]

It seems now only Lanterns of Skyrim is loading before it. It seems USSEP has a meta rule that makes it load after it, and it wont let me delete it. I manually put it above after running LOOT, but that did not fix the issue. Is there a way to have Skyrim create crash logs?

Edited January 8, 2017 by beewyka819

[iXenite]

Well that's odd. I only have the original Skyrim currently installed on my PC, but I am using the Unofficial Legendary Patch with quite a few of the mods you're also using (the lantern one being one of them) and my load order is as I pointed out earlier. Not really sure why yours would be different. Maybe try setting a Meta Rule for the lanterns mod?

[beewyka819]

Doing that causes LOOT to flip out, as it has contradicting meta rules. But like I said, I manually placed USSEP above everything and the game is still crashing. I'll generate a papyrus crash log

Edited January 8, 2017 by beewyka819

[iXenite]

Okay, I suppose it's time to try and think about what could be causing this issue. You don't really need Run For Your Lives and When Vampires Attack when you're using AI Overhaul. Unless AI Overhaul is different in the Special Edition. With that said, I can only assume that your Bash Patch may not be up to date or your merged plugins are causing the issue. Nothing else jumps out at me as being potentially wrong.

[beewyka819]

I just made the bashed patch and merged patch today, and I didnt add anything

[beewyka819]

It doesn't seem to be anything with the Quest, it's just Dragonsreach in general that's causing the crash

[beewyka819]

Here is the crash log that I generated. The game crashed randomly in Dragonsreach, even if I never approached Balgruuf (Irileth also never approached me unless I got near)

 

[iXenite]

Do you have any mods that edit or place things in that cell? Did you get all of your mods from the Special Edition Nexus page, or did you try and get some original Skyrim mods to work in the Special Edition? I'm asking that because I had a crash in the Sleeping Giant Inn when I was testing mods in the Special Edition that was caused by a mod that placed NPC's inside the inn - but it was not converted to Skyrim: SE, so it didn't work properly.