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Spent the last few days reading guides here and there but still got CTD.

 

Anyway, my problem is I constantly got CTD when I fast travel. Last time when I idle for 15 minutes, I also got CTD but usually when fast travel.

 

My comp spec :

10 GB RAM

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit

Nvidia Geforce 960 GT SE (4 GB VRAM)

HDD free space 100+ GB

Intel Core i5 2500K

 

Where is the game located

C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim

 


Game version?

Newest, v1.9.32.0.8


Any DLCs?

ALL (Dawnguard, Dragonborn, Hearthfire)


Are you using NMM or any other mod manager? What version?

I'm using MO v1.3.11


Are you using SKSE? what version?

Yes, version 1.9.32


Any other helper programs? BOSS? LOOT? Tes5Edit? Wrye Bash? anything else?

I'm using LOOT and TES5Edit (I've clean the mods)

 

LOOT's log :

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LOOT's load order :

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 ApachiiHair.esm
7 7 RiverHelm.esm
8 8 HighResTexturePack01.esp
9 9 HighResTexturePack02.esp
10 a HighResTexturePack03.esp
11 b SkyUI.esp
12 c FNIS.esp
13 d Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
14 e Bijin Wives.esp
15 f [KijikoHair_MalePack].esp
16 10 DeadlyDragons.esp
17 11 Convenient Horses.esp
18 12 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
19 13 BecomeKingOfRiverHelm.esp
20 14 OBIS.esp
21 15 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
22 16 SoS - The Dungeons.esp
23 17 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
24 18 Immersive Weapons.esp
25 19 Cloaks.esp
26 1a SMIM-Merged-All.esp
27 1b UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
28 1c Immersive Patrols II.esp
29 1d OBISDB.esp
30 1e ExtractOreSpell.esp
31 1f Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
32 20 Extended UI.esp
33 21 Dr_Bandolier.esp
34 22 UIExtensions.esp
35 23 VioLens.esp
36 24 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
37 25 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
38 26 UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
39 27 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
40 28 UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
41 29 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
42 2a RaceMenu.esp
43 2b RaceMenuPlugin.esp
44 2c Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
45 2d RealisticWaterTwo.esp
46 2e RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
I managed to get some dump :

EXCEPTION_RECORD: ffffffff -- (.exr 0xffffffffffffffff)

ExceptionAddress: 0060a888 (TESV+0x0020a888)
ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
Parameter[0]: 00000000
Parameter[1]: 0000008e
Attempt to read from address 0000008e

And the second one I got :

EXCEPTION_RECORD: ffffffff -- (.exr 0xffffffffffffffff)
ExceptionAddress: 0060a888 (TESV+0x0020a888)
ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
Parameter[0]: 00000000
Parameter[1]: 000024af
Attempt to read from address 000024af

I think that's all? My mods are pretty straightforward I think. Oh, I just did a clean re-install since my last installation is a mess and my saved game are from the old backup. I did clean the saved game with SaveTool though. Still got CTD. Anything else I missed?
Thank you so much!
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1. I would use the Unofficial High Res Patch if you are intent on using the High Res Textures.
2. Move your FNIS and all animations to the bottom of your load order. They just work better there with your skeleton coming after them (usually xpmse). Make sure you have gender and skeleton arm fix boxes checked when you update your FNIS. If you aren't using a custom skeleton, I'd suggest it. Many mods may require or use it without mentioning it. Your order could be better like this at the end of it:
FNIS
[Animations]
XPMSE
[any mod LOOT puts after it.]

3. If you are still experiencing CTDs, check out the Crash Fixes mod and do the changes he suggests on his mod page.

4. If all else fails, something may have been corrupted. Delete your skyrim, update, dawnguard, hearthfires, and dragonborn .esms from your skyrim/data folder and then revalidate your cache. You will need to clean these mods again.

5. Also, just because you mentioned you are using MO, just make sure that your left pane matches the right in load order. Also, make sure you understand how to handle your overwrite section. If you don't, Gopher has some basic tutorials on youtube for you and MO.

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1. I would use the Unofficial High Res Patch if you are intent on using the High Res Textures.

2. Move your FNIS and all animations to the bottom of your load order. They just work better there with your skeleton coming after them (usually xpmse). Make sure you have gender and skeleton arm fix boxes checked when you update your FNIS. If you aren't using a custom skeleton, I'd suggest it. Many mods may require or use it without mentioning it. Your order could be better like this at the end of it:

FNIS

[Animations]

XPMSE

[any mod LOOT puts after it.]

 

3. If you are still experiencing CTDs, check out the Crash Fixes mod and do the changes he suggests on his mod page.

4. If all else fails, something may have been corrupted. Delete your skyrim, update, dawnguard, hearthfires, and dragonborn .esms from your skyrim/data folder and then revalidate your cache. You will need to clean these mods again.

5. Also, just because you mentioned you are using MO, just make sure that your left pane matches the right in load order. Also, make sure you understand how to handle your overwrite section. If you don't, Gopher has some basic tutorials on youtube for you and MO.

Thanks for the reply!

1. Okay! I just downloaded and installed it.

2. Done.

3. I'm sorry but I fail to understand what Crash Fixes mod do :(

4. I actually did it before and still experiencing CTD

5. Hmm, okay.. Should be quite simple.

 

In the end, I found out what caused the CTD. It was Become King of Riverhelm mod! I deactivated it and now it runs well. Anyway, I dunno why my game is hard to accept new buildings mod. Tried River Leaf mod and I experience CTD now and then. Tried Apachii also always got CTD lol

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Maybe try a clean install? Perhaps something got corrupt. Apachii hair shouldn't be causing CTDs. Not sure about the other mentioned mods, but if you have some mods affecting that area or NPCs those mods may be touching with scripts it could cause CTDs

 

As for crash fixes, just slowly read it. It is a tool that helps your skyrim be as stable as it can be in multiple areas.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/wiki/troubleshooting_guide

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/wiki/dangerous_mods_masterlist

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/wiki/beginners_guide

 

My mod list is in my sig....350 mods and in more than 30 hours of gameplay on current save i have exactly 3 ctds.

 

I dont say this to brag only to show that with proper smart modding you can have a pretty heavily modded yet stable game.

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