Prenihility Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Ok. so, i go to the Priory of the Nine, and i notice a yellow triangle, which, im sure everyone knows means; a missing texture. Now, i go to Data Files, and see that Knights.esp is disabled. So i enable it. Only to come to a realization, and rediscover a problem i had in the first place. When i enable Knights.esp, the game will crash at the Bethesda logo... Im not going to go into any details...Hell, im not even sure myself what the problem is, but i remember months ago when i encountered it, and simply ended up with a massive headache and said "screw it, i'll just disable the .esp" ; that it was mod-related. So, all i ask, is assistance in removing EVERY mod i have installed for the game... I haven't messed around with mods for a very, very long time... The only one i want to keep is Natural faces. Or, rather, instead of getting rid of all mods, i could simply get rid of the mods applied to KotN. How do i go about doing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Vyper Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 The yellow diamond is a missing mesh, not a missing texture. I could be something added by a mod that you removed the resources to, or had an incorrect file path. Post your load order so we can better assist you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prenihility Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 BAM Oblivion.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espDLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.espDLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.espDLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.espDLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.espDLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.espKnights - Unofficial Patch.espQuest Award Leveller.espQuest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.espQuest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.espQuest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.espQuest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.espDLCOrrery.espDLCFrostcrag.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCThievesDen.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCBattlehornCastle.espDLCShiveringIsles.esp There we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septfox Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 BAM*jumps out of his skin* Fairly simple list you have there at least...related esps are probably Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp, Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp, and of course......Er, well, the KoTN esp isn't even in here, so. Also, you need to reorder your mods. The unofficial patches need to be lower in the order than the esps that they patch. Otherwise they're completely ineffective because any changes they make are being overridden by the originals. The game always loads esps in descending order (which is why Oblivion.esm is always at the top). This order would be effective:Oblivion.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espDLCOrrery.espDLCFrostcrag.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCThievesDen.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCBattlehornCastle.espDLCShiveringIsles.espDLCKnights.esp (or whatever it was named)Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espDLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.espDLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.espDLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.espDLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.espDLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.espKnights - Unofficial Patch.espQuest Award Leveller.espQuest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.espQuest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.espQuest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.espQuest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olha2 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 try using FormID finder that will tell you what mod is cousing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubjectProphet Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 You're unofficial patches need to go UNDER what they patch. I'm looking at this, and uhhh, well, that's not what I'm seeing. Here's the proper load order (quoted, of course) Oblivion.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp DLCKnights.esp (or whatever it was named) Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Quest Award Leveller.esp Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prenihility Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 You're unofficial patches need to go UNDER what they patch. I'm looking at this, and uhhh, well, that's not what I'm seeing. Here's the proper load order (quoted, of course) Oblivion.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp DLCKnights.esp (or whatever it was named) Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Quest Award Leveller.esp Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp Ok..eer. If i change the load order, how will this help with missing meshes? Also...how DO i change the load order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephenee13 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Ok..eer. If i change the load order, how will this help with missing meshes? Also...how DO i change the load order? Wrye Bash and BOSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septfox Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Or OBMM. Why does OBMM get so little love these days, it's much more new-user-friendly than Wrye is :\ To answer your question, it probably won't. But all those bugfix esps are useless to you if they're set up like they are, and wouldn't you rather have the bugs fixed before you run into them during normal play? Some of the base game's bugs are pretty nasty, no doubt the official plugins have some terrible ones of their own. It might also be that one of the bugfixes deleted the original mesh and set a path to a new one, which would cause this sort of thing. I rather doubt it (even if it used an installer that COULD delete files, I would think that any unofficial patch would leave the originals in place for safety), but it's possible. Worth spending 30 seconds to change your load order and see, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prenihility Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Or OBMM. Why does OBMM get so little love these days, it's much more new-user-friendly than Wrye is :\ To answer your question, it probably won't. But all those bugfix esps are useless to you if they're set up like they are, and wouldn't you rather have the bugs fixed before you run into them during normal play? Some of the base game's bugs are pretty nasty, no doubt the official plugins have some terrible ones of their own. It might also be that one of the bugfixes deleted the original mesh and set a path to a new one, which would cause this sort of thing. I rather doubt it (even if it used an installer that COULD delete files, I would think that any unofficial patch would leave the originals in place for safety), but it's possible. Worth spending 30 seconds to change your load order and see, anyway. Ok, so i basically just use the "Move Up" and "Move Down" buttons. Once i exit OBMM, it will save automatically. ALSO, once that's done, what do i do then, if the problem persists? Edited January 14, 2012 by Prenihility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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