djbauer Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Load order is in the Spoiler tag.It happens a lot heading toward Honningbrew Meadery away from Whiterun, but also at various other points across the map.Tried starting a new save and I'm still getting the problem.Load order sorted by LOOT.Any help will be greatly appreciated. 0 0 Skyrim.esm1 1 Update.esm2 2 Dawnguard.esm3 3 HearthFires.esm4 4 Dragonborn.esm5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp6 6 ApachiiHair.esm7 7 ApachiiHairFemales.esm8 8 ApachiiHairMales.esm9 9 Campfire.esm10 a SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp11 b WhiterunHoldForest.esp12 c Cutting Room Floor.esp13 d Skyrim Sizes.esp14 e ValdacilsItemSorting.esp15 f Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp16 10 Dark_Eden_Forests.esp17 11 Eli_Breezehome.esp18 12 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp19 13 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp20 14 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp21 15 Book Covers Skyrim.esp22 16 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp23 17 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp24 18 VISPatch-BookCovers.esp25 19 BetterQuestObjectives.esp26 1a BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp27 1b dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp28 1c ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp29 1d SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrimSE.esp30 1e Man Those Borders!.esp31 1f Windhelm Exterior Altered.esp32 20 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp33 21 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp34 22 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp35 23 Point The Way.esp36 24 SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp37 25 BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp38 26 Artifacts.esp39 27 JKs Whiterun.esp40 28 JK's Riverwood.esp41 29 [email protected]42 2a Frostfall.esp43 2b Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp44 2c Warhammer Gameroom.esp45 2d SassyGirls.esp46 2e LADX_SSE.esp47 2f The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp48 30 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp49 31 HoldBorderBanners.esp50 32 Runandwalkpaces.esp51 33 skysan_icicle.esp52 34 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp53 35 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp54 36 LeatherBackpackStraps-100.esp55 37 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp56 38 RealisticNeedsandDiseases_Frostfall Patch.esp57 39 VisualAnimatedEnchants.esp58 3a KameHameHa.esp59 3b FurSet by keung.esp60 3c CiriOutfit.esp61 3d Footprints.esp62 3e SprintStaminaDrain.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.esp63 3f Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Weathers.esp64 40 Vivid WeathersSE.esp65 41 InTheClear_RLOPatch.esp66 42 CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp67 43 SexyVest.esp68 44 LeatherBound Huntress Armor.esp69 45 VISPatch-ImmersiveSounds.esp70 46 BossChest.esp71 47 HighHrothgar ShelterS.esp72 48 PolarBear.esp73 49 WhiterunStableGuards.esp74 4a JokerinePenguins.esp75 4b Mani Follower.esp76 4c 1nivWICCloaks.esp77 4d VISPatch-ImmersiveArmors.esp78 4e VISPatch-Campfire.esp79 4f VISPatch-CuttingRoomFloor.esp80 50 VISPatch-Frostfall.esp81 51 VISPatch-WICCloaks.esp82 52 Beards.esp83 53 ISD_LongclawCrafting.esp84 54 ApachiiHairNPC-Females.esp85 55 ApachiiHairNPC-Males.esp86 56 icepenguinworldmap.esp87 57 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp88 58 MasterSword.esp89 59 FNIS.esp90 5a XPMSSE.esp91 5b FNISspells.esp92 5c Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp93 5d ImperialFineClothes.esp94 5e Ophelia.esp95 5f Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp96 60 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneck1st Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 DJ well now after looking over your load order I can see two mods for which in my humble opinion would conflict and are the last two in your load order. Alternate Start- Live another LifeAlternate Start- New Beginnings If I am not mistaken don't both of these mods do pretty much the same thing? The change the start of the very beginning of the game? Now if I were you I'd choose one or the other and not both and that there might just clear some things up for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbauer Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 DJ well now after looking over your load order I can see two mods for which in my humble opinion would conflict and are the last two in your load order. Alternate Start- Live another LifeAlternate Start- New Beginnings If I am not mistaken don't both of these mods do pretty much the same thing? The change the start of the very beginning of the game? Now if I were you I'd choose one or the other and not both and that there might just clear some things up for you.New Beginnings adds more choices to Live Another Life and CTD's were happening before i implemented these mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathtopower Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Means 2 things, if your ctd issues may be stemming to save corruption due to a overload of script in the skyrim engine. You ought to get your save cleaned out for any orphan scripts. See the papyrus logs for any insane repetitive long script that seems to be non stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbauer Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) Means 2 things, if your ctd issues may be stemming to save corruption due to a overload of script in the skyrim engine. You ought to get your save cleaned out for any orphan scripts. See the papyrus logs for any insane repetitive long script that seems to be non stop.I've tried cleaning my original save and it's still happening.Also happening on brand new saves. :confused: EDIT: I'm so stupid, forgot to mention also have a reshade and ENB active, could they be pert of the problem? Edited January 18, 2017 by djbauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathtopower Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) Frankly the only solution i can give you. Is this, restart a whole new save clean game with only alternate start. Start a new fresh game, wait 15-20 minutes just running around and see if you get any ctd, the goal is to see if the problem is the vanilla game itself.Alright let's assume it ain't and you can play without any ctd, pat yourself in the back because the next part is gonna suck.Turn off the game, activate 5-10 mods. Only activate 5 to 10 mods you cannot live without. This is where you only activate mods, EVERYONE USE, write down every mods you activate in groups of 5 or 10. Repeat this annoying process until you hit the batch of broken mods that will suddenly do the whole 15 minute ctd problem you got.Put on a sherlock holms hat and Investigate each of them suspected mods, go read the nexus forum of the mod maker, see if folks have made complaints.Turn off all 5-10 mods, and repeat the previous steps with each mod till you ctd and find the perp. Terminate said perp, no mercy shall be given, no second chances and no bloody excuses. This is frankly a brutal manner to find whatever it is that is f*#@ing up your fun. Everyone got a different load order of mods and sometimes having a certain mod with another mod will cause ctd issues. Half of the fun of modding is fixing the ctd and getting it all to work in harmony. Edited January 18, 2017 by pathtopower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbauer Posted January 19, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2017 Frankly the only solution i can give you. Is this, restart a whole new save clean game with only alternate start. Start a new fresh game, wait 15-20 minutes just running around and see if you get any ctd, the goal is to see if the problem is the vanilla game itself.Alright let's assume it ain't and you can play without any ctd, pat yourself in the back because the next part is gonna suck.Turn off the game, activate 5-10 mods. Only activate 5 to 10 mods you cannot live without. This is where you only activate mods, EVERYONE USE, write down every mods you activate in groups of 5 or 10. Repeat this annoying process until you hit the batch of broken mods that will suddenly do the whole 15 minute ctd problem you got.Put on a sherlock holms hat and Investigate each of them suspected mods, go read the nexus forum of the mod maker, see if folks have made complaints.Turn off all 5-10 mods, and repeat the previous steps with each mod till you ctd and find the perp. Terminate said perp, no mercy shall be given, no second chances and no bloody excuses. This is frankly a brutal manner to find whatever it is that is f***ing up your fun. Everyone got a different load order of mods and sometimes having a certain mod with another mod will cause ctd issues. Half of the fun of modding is fixing the ctd and getting it all to work in harmony. I was afraid it would come to this... :pinch: Just wondering if I may be missing patches for a mod or two... :confused: Thanks for the replies guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneck1st Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 djbauer Another thing you might want to try out has to do with the FNIS mod. Now I don't use it yet but something tells me you might have forgotten a file that has to do with that mod. Or forgotten to do something for which is required for that mod. Because If I remember right from reading the mod page there is allot more you need to do then just downloading , installing and activating that mod. Also don't remember your mod list and haven't looked at it. But if your using Open Cities by Almoor you might want to consider dropping that mod as well. I was having random CTD's and broken quests and such. Since I've deleted Open Cities no more CTDs. I do have to start the game over though but before I do going to use this current play through to test some more mods for which I want to possibly add.<G> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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