RokHere Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I am guessing that the Destruction Dual Casting perk only applies when using the same spell, like Flames, in both hands, but would like to confirm from someone who has perhaps researched this before. I would have assumed that combining sparks with ice would've been lethal, but it's not when compared to combining Flames in both hands and getting the dual casting perk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvinkun Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Yes, only the same-spell only, just as with any other school. The good part is that the bolt spells stun most opponents for a brief moment when dual cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokHere Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 Yes, only the same-spell only, just as with any other school. The good part is that the bolt spells stun most opponents for a brief moment when dual cast. Thanks for confirming, mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanchan05 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 You can't dual cast with different spells. lol. how will that be dual cast? dual casting is holding left and right mouse button at the same time. It has different animation than normal cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesapien Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Yes, only the same-spell only, just as with any other school. The good part is that the bolt spells stun most opponents for a brief moment when dual cast. To clarify, is that without the Impact perk? Impact is the perk next up on the branch for dual casting with a good chance to stun opponents while dual casting. Each of the three elements has a nice one up perk, too, so when all combined you get a good chance for something badass when dual casting. But I've no clue about what you just said so am really asking without prior knowledge on my part and no sarcasm or offense intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokHere Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 You can't dual cast with different spells. lol. how will that be dual cast? dual casting is holding left and right mouse button at the same time. It has different animation than normal cast. Yeah, you can dual-cast flames and ice, or ice and sparks (which is the one I would've assumed should be deadly and thorough too, since it would drain health, stamina, and magicka from the enemy). And you do that by assigning sparks to right hand for example, and ice to the left, then holding down both mouse buttons as you would when dual casting flames to get the perk benefit. My question was not about the possibility, because I know it is possible to dual-cast (dual is two, not same) different spells; my question was about whether that stronger effect only happens when the same spell is used, and this is confirmed: we have to use the same spell to get the perk benefit, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanchan05 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 You can't dual cast with different spells. lol. how will that be dual cast? dual casting is holding left and right mouse button at the same time. It has different animation than normal cast. Yeah, you can dual-cast flames and ice, or ice and sparks (which is the one I would've assumed should be deadly and thorough too, since it would drain health, stamina, and magicka from the enemy). And you do that by assigning sparks to right hand for example, and ice to the left, then holding down both mouse buttons as you would when dual casting flames to get the perk benefit. My question was not about the possibility, because I know it is possible to dual-cast (dual is two, not same) different spells; my question was about whether that stronger effect only happens when the same spell is used, and this is confirmed: we have to use the same spell to get the perk benefit, that's all. Lol thats not dual cast. You're not making use of the dual cast perk to make the spells stronger. You can hold spells on both hands without the perk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokHere Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Yeah, you can dual-cast flames and ice, or ice and sparks (which is the one I would've assumed should be deadly and thorough too, since it would drain health, stamina, and magicka from the enemy). And you do that by assigning sparks to right hand for example, and ice to the left, then holding down both mouse buttons as you would when dual casting flames to get the perk benefit. My question was not about the possibility, because I know it is possible to dual-cast (dual is two, not same) different spells; my question was about whether that stronger effect only happens when the same spell is used, and this is confirmed: we have to use the same spell to get the perk benefit, that's all.Lol thats not dual cast. You're not making use of the dual cast perk to make the spells stronger. You can hold spells on both hands without the perk. Why exactly is that not dual cast? Because you're not getting the "perk"?? What does the perk have to do with English language? Dude, if you are holding both mouse buttons down in Skyrim with a mage readying a spell in each hand, then you ARE freaking dual-casting, regardless to WHICH spells are in your mage's hands, simply because that's ENGLISH! Whether I'm getting something related to the game mechanics, like the "Perk", or not, is a separate issue, and that's what my question was about! Two singers = duo, two spells being simultaneously cast = dual casting. Simple. English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zefelius Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 You can't dual cast with different spells. lol. how will that be dual cast? dual casting is holding left and right mouse button at the same time. It has different animation than normal cast. Yeah, you can dual-cast flames and ice, or ice and sparks (which is the one I would've assumed should be deadly and thorough too, since it would drain health, stamina, and magicka from the enemy). And you do that by assigning sparks to right hand for example, and ice to the left, then holding down both mouse buttons as you would when dual casting flames to get the perk benefit. My question was not about the possibility, because I know it is possible to dual-cast (dual is two, not same) different spells; my question was about whether that stronger effect only happens when the same spell is used, and this is confirmed: we have to use the same spell to get the perk benefit, that's all. I think your question was absolutely legitimate. Indeed, I had the same question and since this was the first time I visited this site I was pleasantly surprised to find this thread so quickly. Strictly speaking, as you yourself seemed to recognize, the word "dual" is ambiguous as to its referent: it's linguistically open-ended. It could refer to two similar spells or to the exact same ones. And even if someone argues above that it could only refer to the same ones, what counts as the same is still equally ambiguous, as it might be the same exact spells or merely the same kind or group of spells. So that's why I don't think your question was at all silly or laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunytic Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Po-tay-to, po-tah-to. They are both dual casting. The terminology is not clearly defined. You can cast two different spells at the same time, but each is effectively the same as single-casting. They just occur at the same time. No need to delve into the depths of semantics :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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