justwannaddl Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 @WizardOfAtlantis: Youtube pays its members who join their partner's program for views. I don't see how that is so different from Megaupload. I also don't see how a person's spending habits have anything to do with this case unless the money was used to buy drugs, prostitutes and other illicit uses. I'm sure they probably have done some questionable things considering their founder was an ex-con but if you could explain what dubious actions MU has done, I'd like to see them. From all the articles and the wiki, the only thing I see them getting in trouble for is actively trying to attract pirates instead of simple users and even then, the DoJ better have a lot of damning evidence proving such motivations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginnyfizz Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I wish them the best of luck with that, Rapidshare is based in Switzerland. Megaupload was based in Hong Kong, but that didn't stop them. It was incorporated there, it didn't operate from there. Being based in Switzerland actually makes one hell of a difference. Ever wondered why people who wish for great secrecy (whether or not they are dodgy criminals) go for Swiss bank accounts? It's because the Swiss are notoriously tight and...ummm...secret with information. They'd very likely tell the DoJ to "va te faire.......(rude words)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardOfAtlantis Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 @WizardOfAtlantis: Youtube pays its members who join their partner's program for views. I don't see how that is so different from Megaupload. I also don't see how a person's spending habits have anything to do with this case unless the money was used to buy drugs, prostitutes and other illicit uses. I'm sure they probably have done some questionable things considering their founder was an ex-con but if you could explain what dubious actions MU has done, I'd like to see them. From all the articles and the wiki, the only thing I see them getting in trouble for is actively trying to attract pirates instead of simple users and even then, the DoJ better have a lot of damning evidence proving such motivations.The parallel of money gained from Youtube users vs MegaUpload staff is a weak one, at best. Try not to let yourself get derailed by the fluff and look at the substance...it's not their spending habits, as in what they choose, it's that they had enough cash to have a fleet of luxury cars. And that, from a boatload of illegal content...and they knew it, otherwise they wouldn't have a CEO in Switzerland, with the company based in Hong Kong and thousands of servers spread out all over....all run by an ex-con who was buying his residence in New Zealand with donations left and right (which in itself is a no-brainer good thing, however, once again it shows how much they were making....not like Youtube users). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted1744345User Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Here's what might happen next: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tD1yaE0GfQ&feature=g-logo&context=G2294147FOAAAAAAAAAAI don't know if this guy is just fearmongering, or if his words actually hold some truth. I do know that the U.S. can't arrest 25% of its population plus many more foreigners without a fight. Corporate enslavement of the world is coming soon though. Recent events only prove to strengthen my conviction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihoe Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 After the internet blackouts yesterday megaupload was taken down. The Feds accused megaupload of having most of its users visit for piracy, despite the fact that most of megauploads traffic was legitimate. anyone got any comment on this?They took it down at the worst time possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justwannaddl Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) @WizardOfAtlantis: It isn't that weak. The Megaupload members were like the people participating in the Youtube partner program. Megaupload paid members who attracted the most traffic. So too does Youtube. Both arguably profited from users posting a boatload of copyrighted material. Both followed a policy of taking down said material if the copyright holders themselves reported them. Megaupload's founders became rich like the Youtube founders. There are material differences of course but the similarities should not be so easily dismissed, especially when they are being used as part of the DoJ's indictment. Their CEO, Kasseem Dean, is American and lives in New York. Oddly enough, he isn't being charged. They had thousands of servers because they had billions in traffic. Kim Dotcom, the founder, had Finnish and German citzenship in addition to residency in Hong Kong and New Zealand. Being in HK didn't protect the company apparently since assets have been frozen there as well. I'm not saying they aren't guilty of anything. With Kim Dotcom's track record, I wouldn't be surprised. I'm just saying that the accusations look weak, the actions taken look extreme and the evidence justifying such actions better be iron clad and dipped in gold or there will be hell to pay. @OriginOFPain- I don't know about arresting 25% of the US population but we do apparently account for 25% of the world's prison population. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate Edited January 21, 2012 by justwannaddl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardOfAtlantis Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 @WizardOfAtlantis: It isn't that weak. The Megaupload members were like the people participating in the Youtube partner program. I don't think the highest viewed videos on Youtube are pirated films and cd's, et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 @WizardOfAtlantis: It isn't that weak. The Megaupload members were like the people participating in the Youtube partner program. I don't think the highest viewed videos on Youtube are pirated films and cd's, et al.Regardless, many other hosting sites, atleast from what I've read seem to be pulling or scaling back their rewards programs. They may also be doing some house-cleaning as well, so it's hard to say if this is a good thing or a bad thing. My only question is... What do I do for a file host now that doesn't spam you to hell or require 5 forms of ID to create an account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddah Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 4shared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justwannaddl Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) @WizardOfAtlantis: It isn't that weak. The Megaupload members were like the people participating in the Youtube partner program. I don't think the highest viewed videos on Youtube are pirated films and cd's, et al. I don't think so either. The pirated junk tends to be taken down after about a month or two. After a week, three more then takes its place in three different streaming sites. Each link never gets the millions of downloads the legit content can. Same thing applies for Megaupload and any other file locker. @Vagrant0: Are you looking for premium membership or free? Edited January 22, 2012 by justwannaddl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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