interesting problem with project new vegas

[Nsinger998]

I have a stable load order(at last) except when I use certain helmets which cause a crash when changing cells sometimes.

 

sometimes I get lucky and will be able to press "esc" in the split second before a crash on cell load and make a save. I then load the save and hunky dory. But sometimes I'm not so lucky but with a few tries(and my helmet off) I get thru. However, this seems to be only when I wear helmets with visor overlay support. any idea why this may happen? my load order is below:

 

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  FalloutNV.esm [CRC: 26D5B980]
01  DeadMoney.esm [CRC: D70F165B]
02  HonestHearts.esm [CRC: 2352B189]
03  OldWorldBlues.esm [CRC: 7F8F8225]
04  LonesomeRoad.esm [CRC: 30073D50]
05  GunRunnersArsenal.esm [CRC: 0AAC938D]
06  NVCE Main.esm [CRC: 3A0B27B7]
07  Inventory Access.esm [CRC: C4A21B40]
08  NSkies URWLified.esm [CRC: 47F8410D]
09  Primary Needs HUD.esm [CRC: D5F10B4D]
0A  Project Nevada - Core.esm [CRC: BD5B18CC]
0B  Project Nevada - Equipment.esm [CRC: 504C6F02]
0C  Selective Fire.esm  [Version 1.26] [CRC: 30D884C4]
0D  ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm [CRC: EC7EB1BE]
0E  ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm [CRC: D4710960]
0F  New Vegas Error Corrections COMPLETE - DLC + GRA.esm [CRC: 3D819415]
10  DarNifiedUINV.esp [CRC: E46691F1]
11  FairyRadar.esp [CRC: AF316B00]
12  FPSWeaponWheel.esp  [Version 1.13] [CRC: F67E1C9D]
13  HUD Extended.esp [CRC: A36B1E1E]
14  Readius_NV.esp [CRC: 0AC823D4]
15  The Mod Configuration Menu.esp  [Version 1.2] [CRC: CADD67E1]
++  I Fought the Law Workaround.esp [CRC: AE3959E3]
16  XFO - 1aa - Accuracy Revamp - mild.esp [CRC: 0A9F574E]
17  XFO - 4a - Perks - Paths.esp [CRC: 38271670]
18  Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp [CRC: 0B42D351]
19  Project Nevada - Dead Money.esp [CRC: 4D7923AF]
1A  Project Nevada - Honest Hearts.esp [CRC: E6D45D29]
1B  Project Nevada - Old World Blues (No Cyberware).esp [CRC: A2C10055]
1C  Selective Fire - Project Nevada.esp [CRC: 8E3BDE15]
++  PA Footsteps.esp [CRC: BF9337F0]
1D  CharacterBackgrounds.esp  [Version 1.2] [CRC: 1E81CEBC]
1E  NV_STTraitsandPerks - NVSE.esp [CRC: A0F97819]
1F  SaveCass.esp [CRC: 37A0B785]
20  QS_Blackwolf_NV_Backpackmod.esp [CRC: 5DF9D6E4]
21  ADAM - MAIN.esp [CRC: BF21D7BB]
22  ADAM - HH.esp [CRC: 3CC87025]
23  ADAM - LR.esp [CRC: FA3C75CB]
24  ADAM - Rangers on Patrol.esp [CRC: CFB1CBB8]
25  ADAM - Outcast Ranger Armour.esp [CRC: D2F1F3DD]
26  ADAM - NCR Patrol Armour.esp [CRC: F634C1E6]
27  ADAM - Project Nevada Patch2.esp [CRC: 071B287C]
28  Armored PA Gloves.esp [CRC: 5BB7F23F]
29  EMR-StealthSuitMkII.esp [CRC: AE4152B1]
2A  EMR Stealthsuit v3.0 - Project Nevada Patch2.esp [CRC: 6C030D46]
2B  Fiendish Power Armor.esp [CRC: 0A976AE7]
2C  Fiendish Power Armor - Project Nevada.esp [CRC: 36156525]
2D  LegionGladiatorPA.esp [CRC: 38CEDBA7]
2E  DragbodysLegionReplacerV01.esp [CRC: E885F4C3]
2F  NCR Rearmament v1.5 (Lore).esp [CRC: 3278C7B8]
30  PlasmaShields.esp [CRC: 2E32A4B6]
31  Powered Power Armor.esp [CRC: 1A1950FD]
32  RangerPA.esp [CRC: 3DA8690F]
33  Sack of Holding-NV.esp  [Version 1.0.0] [CRC: F8364296]
34  NVCE DLC01.esp [CRC: CB761A9C]
35  NVCE DLC02.esp [CRC: 47E9E7F8]
++  NVCE DLC03.esp [CRC: 1C982CD7]
++  NVCE DLC04.esp [CRC: 1FBA2AEA]
++  ede dual upgrades.esp [CRC: E47D6F36]
36  Jump Fall Fixer.esp [CRC: 3FEF47CB]
37  Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp [CRC: A1D75EE9]
++  Vault_34_better_reactor.esp [CRC: 2905BAFA]
38  WeaponModsExpanded.esp [CRC: BC00CA2A]
39  Project Nevada - WMX.esp [CRC: C0DA6CFD]
3A  WMX-DeadMoney.esp [CRC: 3A6D65C1]
3B  WMX-HonestHearts.esp [CRC: 5E6D82D4]
3C  WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp [CRC: 06C86C25]
3D  WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp [CRC: A1E4AF86]
3E  EVE FNV.esp [CRC: C9DF79C3]
3F  Project Nevada - EVE.esp [CRC: 23A5C777]
++  WMX-EVE.esp [CRC: 9257CB7D]
40  NSkies URWLifiedOWB.esp [CRC: 8C95A5D6]
41  NSkies URWLifiedHH.esp [CRC: 425271A8]
++  NSkies URWLifiedDM.esp [CRC: 7336897E]
42  ILO-RI-Dead Money.esp  [Version 1.3] [CRC: DA01206A]
43  ILO-RI-Honest Hearts.esp  [Version 1.1] [CRC: D59A7BBB]
44  ILO-RI-Old World Blues.esp  [Version 1.2] [CRC: 8EECA1FE]
45  ILO-RI-Lonesome Road.esp  [Version 1.1] [CRC: 49D6A7E3]
++  ILO-RI-PipBoy Light.esp  [Version 1.0] [CRC: DBC9AA70]
46  ADAM - Trooper Gloves.esp [CRC: BADECE1B]
47  XFO - 4b - Perks - Perk Every Level.esp [CRC: 92814DD0]
48  lohengrin.esp [CRC: F6478D8C]
49  StuckBackpackWorkaround.esp [CRC: BB07B36E]
++  Project Nevada - XV Enclave Bunker Patch.esp [CRC: 8A90BB1A]
4A  VanGraffHostilityFactionFix.esp [CRC: B0031B9F]
++  Echo_PipboyGloveRemover.esp [CRC: EE7DF444]
4B  hanlonfix.esp [CRC: B2C5C53C]
4C  ncrcfending.esp [CRC: 5FAA31E1]
4D  OmniTool.esp [CRC: F60DA80F]
4E  Geonox_Restored_Riot_Armor_GLOVE_VERSION.esp [CRC: D3A53D29]
4F  shogo_laser_katana.esp [CRC: 6145F304]
50  ae86seiryuushort.esp [CRC: 920FD1EB]
51  Geonoxhardenedarmor.esp [CRC: 309DD8C7]
52  WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp [CRC: 1FE49712]
++  XV Enclave Remnants.esp [CRC: D44464EA]
53  ADAM - Nemesis Armours.esp [CRC: 8BE8E311]
54  ADAM - Nemesis Armours - PN.esp [CRC: 571C2BBC]
55  XVEnclaveBunker.esp [CRC: EE92F85B]
56  Project Nevada - Gun Runners' Arsenal.esp [CRC: B8B0388F]
57  Project Nevada - Lonesome Road.esp [CRC: 833E810B]
58  ILO-RI-Fallout New Vegas - Complete Edition.esp  [Version 6.2] [CRC: 058FD9DD]
59  The Weapon Mod Menu.esp  [Version 1.1] [CRC: 057E6EB0]
5A  Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: 9D2F51E1]

 

[GrindedStone]

It happends because you have a buttloads worth of mods installed which were never tested to work together, particularly in the order that you randomly came up with from reading the 50 read me's. You have also not started a new game in a while which durring this switching an building of the load order certian parts of the save game went corupt or paritally corupt to which you saved games on top of, thus locking that coruption in, then making matters worse by pressing ESC an saving when you know it's crashing. I can't think of a load order on any computer system that wouldn't have crashing issues given what you have discribed.

[Nsinger998]

actually, I used boss for load order and wrye bash to make a bashed patch. my save trick works suprisingly well; I can load up the save and be in a cell that I crashed trying to get into. Also, It doesn't happen a lot. I think it might have something to with changing cells and reloading visor options. anyway, its running pretty smoothly right now.

[GrindedStone]

Yes, but you pay the price much later when you're deep into a story that is now broken.