CTD On Startup. LOOT Gives No Errors.

[NecroCorey]

Not at all sure why it would be happening. Loot is giving me no errors, and I *did* get confused with a couple mods, so I'll describe what I did to the best of my ability and see if it helps.

This is not my first time modding, although it has been quite some time. I used to poke around on skyrim and very briefly before the GECK came out on F4 so I know the basics and am using NMM.

 

First of all, I used to use Worsin's power armor mod so I believe I did it correctly, but what I did was install the main file and installed every pack it said to include. Now where I got confused was when it said "Overwriting other styles in this section during install isn't necessary. Waxed and Matte Options below can be used with this file." I took that to mean when I installed the texture packs I select "no to all" when I get the message asking to overwrite. I believe this could be a cause.

 

Another one I think may be a cause is Looksmenu. I installed that and the compendium, with Looksmenu being installed first, followed by compendium. Not sure how those files interact with one another, but I thought I should note it since I was confused about that one.

 

DEF_UI was another one I was really uncertain about. Basically I didn't know how exactly to install since I needed to install Valdis sorting first which was *super* confusing to install, though I believe I did that one correctly as well.

 

I believe these three are the most likely culprit, but I may be throwing you off track by being way wrong. I just hope someone here can help since I've been trying to get this working for like 3 days now. I completely uninstalled F4 and all the mods and redownloaded everything which takes forever on my internet. I'll post my load order in a spoiler tag as well now.

 

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 ArmorKeywords.esm
8 8 Homemaker.esm
9 9 Robot Home Defence.esm
10 a TrueStormsFO4.esm
11 b Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
12 c Worsin's Garage.esm
13 d Armorsmith Extended.esp
14 e BetterSettlers.esp
15 f BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
16 10 BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp
17 11 Binary Speech Checks V.4 Forgiving.esp
18 12 CBBE.esp
19 13 slevins_chemVFX.esp
20 14 CombatZoneRestored.esp
21 15 KSHairdos.esp
22 16 DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
23 17 DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
24 18 Companion Infinite Ammo.esp
25 19 Crafting Workbenches - Removed Crafting Experience.esp
26 1a Crafting Workbench.esp
27 1b Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp
28 1c Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp
29 1d Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp
30 1e Crafting Workbenches - Junk Items.esp
31 1f D.E.C.A.Y.esp
32 20 1xEnemyDamage.esp
33 21 2xPlayerDamage.esp
34 22 ValdacilsItemSorting-Aid.esp
35 23 ValdacilsItemSorting-Ammo.esp
36 24 ValdacilsItemSorting-ExplosivesSortBottom.esp
37 25 ValdacilsItemSorting-Junk+DEF_INV.esp
38 26 ValdacilsItemSorting-Misc.esp
39 27 ValdacilsItemSorting-Mods.esp
40 28 ValdacilsItemSorting-NotJunk.esp
41 29 ValdacilsItemSorting-Perks.esp
42 2a ValdacilsItemSorting-Weapons.esp
43 2b ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCAutomatron.esp
44 2c ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCContraptions.esp
45 2d ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCFarHarbor.esp
46 2e ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCNukaWorld.esp
47 2f ValdacilsItemSorting-ZY-DLCVaultTec.esp
48 30 ValdacilsItemSorting-ZZ-DLCArmorByClassOverride.esp
49 31 ValdacilsItemSorting-ZZ-DLCCosmeticsByClassOverride.esp
50 32 ValdacilsItemSorting-ZZ-DLCWeaponsOverride.esp
51 33 EasyHacking.esp
52 34 EasyLockpicking.esp
53 35 ImmersiveGenericDialogues.esp
54 36 dD-Enhanced Blood.esp
55 37 FirstPersonMessages.esp
56 38 FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp
57 39 FunctionalDisplays.esp
58 3a FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.esp
59 3b FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp
60 3c FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL-VIS.esp
61 3d Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
62 3e 3Vegas_SurvivalBeverages_version2F.esp
63 3f ImmersivePipboyRadio.esp
64 40 ImmersiveVendors.esp
65 41 WaterPurificationProject.esp
66 42 Killable Children.esp
67 43 LegendaryRarity5.esp
68 44 LegendaryAllDifficulties5x.esp
69 45 Live Dismemberment - BrutalNoHeadshots.esp
70 46 Live Dismemberment - LiebermodeNoHeadshots.esp
71 47 Live Dismemberment - RegularNoHeadshots.esp
72 48 Locksmith.esp
73 49 LongerPowerLines3x.esp
74 4a LooksMenu.esp
75 4b LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
76 4c LunchboxSurprise.esp
77 4d KFT_MoreDescriptiveMutations.esp
78 4e SuperAffinity.esp
79 4f NoAffinityCooldown.esp
80 50 DD_Ernest_Rutherford_Perk_Overhaul.esp
81 51 Plasma Cycler.esp
82 52 Quieter Settlements - Vanilla.esp
83 53 Quieter Settlements - Wasteland Workshop.esp
84 54 Quieter Settlements - Contraptions.esp
85 55 Remington 1858.esp
86 56 RepairSanctuary.esp
87 57 Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
88 58 SafeTrunkContentsReworked.esp
89 59 Workshop Shipments Rebalanced.esp
90 5a SuperMutantOverhaul.esp
91 5b M9.esp
92 5c CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp
93 5d TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
94 5e TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp
95 5f TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp
96 60 TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp
97 61 TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp
98 62 TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
99 63 WOTC.esp
100 64 My_Minutemen.esp
101 65 WIPAG - Paint Garage - Style 1 (Hard).esp
102 66 WIPAG - Paint Garage - Style 2 (Hard).esp
103 67 WIPAG - Paint Garage - Style 3 (Hard).esp
104 68 WIPAG - Paint Garage - Style 4 (Hard).esp
105 69 WIPAG - Paint Garage - Style 5 (Hard).esp
106 6a WIPAG - Paint Garage - Style 6 (Hard).esp
107 6b WIPAG - Decal Station.esp
108 6c WIPAG - Materials Overhaul.esp
109 6d WIPAG - Mod Overhaul.esp
110 6e WIPAG - ArmorKeywords Compatibility Patch.esp
111 6f WIPAG - Model-X.esp
112 70 Colt1911.esp

[Fkemman11]

You can simply untick the box next to an esp. in NMM to check it in game. I usually tick off groups of 3-4 until I find the problem. :smile:

[NecroCorey]

You can simply untick the box next to an esp. in NMM to check it in game. I usually tick off groups of 3-4 until I find the problem. :smile:

Yeah I've been ticking like a madman and haven't found the problem yet. I'll keep poking at it though, thanks.

[NecroCorey]

Sorry for the bump but still looking for help here and getting desperate. I unticked everything one by one and still haven't gotten it to work. I then unticked everything and it the game still CTD when it starts.

 

I have no idea what to do or what could be causing the issue at all.

[NecroCorey]

OK ONE LAST BUMP BECAUSE I'M CLOSE TO GIVING UP.

 

Two days later I've uninstalled and reinstalled like 5 times now.

Apparently I can't run Fallout 4 with *any* mods installed and I have no idea why.

 

Again, I know the steps I have to take to enable mods, I've done them all but for some reason it just doesn't work!

I tried playing with just AWKCR enabled and it will CTD. It's literally any mod that I enable.

 

There has to be some really dumb solution that I just overlooked because I thought it was something more complex than it really was.

[Fkemman11]

OK. I just did a complete reinstall with FO4. You made the changes to your ini files? forget about your mods as this sounds like a basic setup problem. You will need to go over the steps 1 by 1 to check. Any little mistake is the culprit. remember to recheck your ini files after you edit and run game as sometimes FO4 will change them back. Set to read only if it does and then try one mod and see. If that works then it is just a process of elimination. :smile:

[NecroCorey]

yeah I made 100% certain I did it right.

 

I even pulled up gopher's install vids on youtube to make sure I remembered all the steps.

I can't imagine what the problem could be. I'll be back in a couple hours after work to poke at it some more and I can give more info to anything else you needed to ask.

 

I currently have a fresh install (again) and uninstalled everything I downloaded from nexus, including NMM. I grabbed an older version I saw from a different thread that was the most stable. (61.21)

Just incase that could have been the problem since I was using the latest NMM.

[Fkemman11]

Download and use FO4Edit. This will help you determine if your game will load with mods- among other helpful functions. Do you have the DLCs? Some mods rely on them to run. Can you run LOOT? Any time you have a problem like this only do a complete reinstall of FO4 and mods as a LAST resort. No need for all that extra work. It is usually a very simple fix. :nuke:

[NecroCorey]

Download and use FO4Edit. This will help you determine if your game will load with mods- among other helpful functions. Do you have the DLCs? Some mods rely on them to run. Can you run LOOT? Any time you have a problem like this only do a complete reinstall of FO4 and mods as a LAST resort. No need for all that extra work. It is usually a very simple fix. :nuke:

Yeah I tried for days before resorting to reinstalling. Like I said, I literally can't comprehend why it wouldn't work. LOOT gave me no errors and if I uninstall all the mods after trying to use mods on my game, it somehow breaks my game because it won't even run vanilla after.

 

I have the DLCs as well. I know how to mod generally it's just stuff like this that leads me to seek help. If I'm not playing F4 by tonight, I'm uninstalling and never picking it up again.

I'll grab FO4Edit when I get back home and see though. I've never used it before.

[NecroCorey]

Actually nevermind I'm done trying.

 

With a fresh install and no mods whatsoever it still CTDs on startup do I'm done even trying. I have better things to do with my time.

 

Thanks for trying to help, I appreciate it.

Edited February 21, 2017 by NecroCorey