New to Modding - Consistent CTD's - Need Help

[Zookol]

So I have constant CTD's at seemingly random times. For example had one when I came near honningbrew meadery, often when I open my inventory, approaching Whiterun gates. Any help would be appreciated. I've disabled mods one by one and in batches and can't figure out the problem. I also disabled the patches/plugins that I don't need so that shouldn't be the problem either. Thanks for any help you guys can give. I posted this in another forum but I'm not sure if it was the right one so I'm reposting here.

Here's my load order:

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm

7 7 Campfire.esm

8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

9 9 TravellersOfSkyrim.esm

10 a HighResTexturePack01.esp

11 b HighResTexturePack02.esp

12 c HighResTexturePack03.esp

13 d Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

14 e SkyUI.esp

15 f Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

16 10 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp

17 11 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

18 12 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

19 13 RealisticRoomRental.esp

20 14 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

21 15 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp

22 16 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

23 17 WetandCold.esp

24 18 WetandCold - Ashes.esp

25 19 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

26 1a LostGrimoire.esp

27 1b HearthfiresDollsAreUgly.esp

28 1c TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp

29 1d SimplyKnock.esp

30 1e When Vampires Attack.esp

31 1f ImmersiveSpells.esp

32 20 TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn Addon.esp

33 21 RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp

34 22 Babette.esp

35 23 AOS.esp

36 24 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

37 25 3DNPC.esp

38 26 Book Covers Skyrim.esp

39 27 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

40 28 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

41 29 OBIS.esp

42 2a Ranger Cabins.esp

43 2b Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

44 2c OBISDB.esp

45 2d CornerofTheSkyrim.esp

46 2e RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

47 2f Run For Your Lives.esp

48 30 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

49 31 AMatterOfTime.esp

50 32 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

51 33 Immersive Weapons.esp

52 34 Unique Uniques.esp

53 35 WayOfTheMonk.esp

54 36 SMIM-Merged-All.esp

55 37 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

56 38 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

57 39 SFO - Dragonborn.esp

58 3a RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp

59 3b Hunterborn.esp

60 3c Immersive Patrols II.esp

Hunterborn_CACO_Patch.esp

Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp

61 3d Frostfall.esp

62 3e Religion.esp

63 3f Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

64 40 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp

65 41 FishingInSkyrim.esp

66 42 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp

67 43 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp

68 44 DeadlyMutilation.esp

69 45 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp

70 46 iNeed.esp

71 47 Sneak Tools.esp

72 48 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

73 49 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp

74 4a VendorSaleDelay-Gone.esp

Hunterborn_BlacksmithChest_Patch.esp

75 4b Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp

Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp

Hunterborn_Requiem-Patch.esp

Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp

76 4c Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

77 4d Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

78 4e TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

79 4f AFT_iNPCFix.esp

80 50 Predator Vision.esp

81 51 VioLens.esp

82 52 WerewolfPerksExpanded.esp

83 53 GDO-IA-PATCH.esp

84 54 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp

85 55 AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp

86 56 AOS2_DSI Patch.esp

87 57 AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp

88 58 AOS2_GDO Patch.esp

89 59 AOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp

90 5a Open Cities Skyrim.esp

91 5b Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Edited February 23, 2017 by Zookol

[mersoniry]

You did not say if you ran loot? Sometimes loot does not always realize how game altering a mod is and sticks it in the wrong place. This is especially true for anything that is .esm so you should always check those. as a rule of thumb you want big mods that affect the game more at the top of your priority list. Open cities if i'm not mistaken is a heavy duty mod and should be by the top of the list. I would also bump up that exterior city lighting one and your water textures.

Edited February 24, 2017 by mersoniry

[Zookol]

You did not say if you ran loot? Sometimes loot does not always realize how game altering a mod is and sticks it in the wrong place. This is especially true for anything that is .esm so you should always check those. as a rule of thumb you want big mods that affect the game more at the top of your priority list. Open cities if i'm not mistaken is a heavy duty mod and should be by the top of the list.

Sorry I did run LOOT and I've actually removed open cities and created a bashed patch since I started troubleshooting the problem. Are there any other clear problems that could be causing the crashes?

[mersoniry]

Are you running an ENB at all?

[Zookol]

Are you running an ENB at all?

I'm not running any ENB graphics but I'm running ENBoost by itself to try to improve performance

[mersoniry]

I know that climates of Tamriel and realistic lighting overhaul can be problem children if they are not right in the order.

The author says they should be like this so i would get them all snug together in your list.

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ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
Player Home mods
Unofficial Skyrim Patches
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp*
RLO - Major City Exteriors - No Guard Torches.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel - VannillaNights.esp (whatever your lvl is)
ClimatesOfTamriel - DLC weathers ONLY.

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[Zookol]

I know that climates of Tamriel and realistic lighting overhaul can be problem children if they are not right in the order.

The author says they should be like this so i would get them all snug together in your list.

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ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Player Home mods

Unofficial Skyrim Patches

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp*

RLO - Major City Exteriors - No Guard Torches.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel - VannillaNights.esp (whatever your lvl is)

ClimatesOfTamriel - DLC weathers ONLY.

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I'll try that as soon as I get the chance. Thanks for the help its much appreciated. Should ClimatesOfTamriel.esm stay where LOOT puts it or should it go somewhere else in the load order? as a reference point for the other plugins

[mersoniry]

 

I know that climates of Tamriel and realistic lighting overhaul can be problem children if they are not right in the order.

The author says they should be like this so i would get them all snug together in your list.

---------------------------------

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Player Home mods

Unofficial Skyrim Patches

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp*

RLO - Major City Exteriors - No Guard Torches.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel - VannillaNights.esp (whatever your lvl is)

ClimatesOfTamriel - DLC weathers ONLY.

-----------------------------------

I'll try that as soon as I get the chance. Thanks for the help its much appreciated. Should ClimatesOfTamriel.esm stay where LOOT puts it or should it go somewhere else in the load order? as a reference point for the other plugins

 

It should be fine at the top where it is

[Zookol]

 

 

I know that climates of Tamriel and realistic lighting overhaul can be problem children if they are not right in the order.

The author says they should be like this so i would get them all snug together in your list.

---------------------------------

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Player Home mods

Unofficial Skyrim Patches

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp*

RLO - Major City Exteriors - No Guard Torches.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel - VannillaNights.esp (whatever your lvl is)

ClimatesOfTamriel - DLC weathers ONLY.

-----------------------------------

I'll try that as soon as I get the chance. Thanks for the help its much appreciated. Should ClimatesOfTamriel.esm stay where LOOT puts it or should it go somewhere else in the load order? as a reference point for the other plugins

 

It should be fine at the top where it is

 

I tried changing my load order to fit the list you gave to no avail unfortunately. I'm having the same CTD every time I walk up the road from honningbrew meadery toward riverwood

[Zookol]

Could it be too much mod content for the game to load? If so what mods might be adding that much content in that area? If it helps another area I had consistent CTD's in on my old game was approaching the sleeping giant inn in riverwood