boomboy2k1 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Character Name: RaptorRace: ArgonianSex: MaleDifficulty: Master Skill perks (@ Lvl 50, 49 perks) Destruction (6x):Novice DestructionApprentice DestructionAdept DestructionExpert DestructionMaster DestructionDestruction Dual Casting Illusion (7x):Novice IllusionApprentice IllusionAdept IllusionExpert IllusionAnimageKindred MageQuiet Casting Sneak (12x):Stealth (5x)Muffled MovementLight FootSilent RollSilenceBackstabDeadly AimAssassin's Blade One-handed (10x):Armsman (5x)Dual Flurry (2x)Dual SavageryFighting StanceSavage Strike Heavy Armor (8x):Juggernaut (5x)Fists of SteelCushionedConditioning Smithing (6x):Steel SmithingArcane BlacksmithDwarven SmithingOrcish SmithingEbony SmithingDaedric Smithing Any suggestions for my post-game build (31 additional perks)? I'm thinking maybe I will invest in Enchanting and fill Destruction, Illusion, and Heavy Armor trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XsTyL3z Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 First of all Heavy Armor & Sneak do not work together, plus destruction perk will draw more attention to you if your sneaking . So it who be best if u go with light armor & archery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBuio Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Here is a good perk calculator, just copy the URL to link a build.http://chrizel.github.com/skyrim/ With Conditioning in Heavy Armor it's fine for Sneak, but it takes a while to get there at 70 skill (as you have to let other hit you to level armor). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomboy2k1 Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 First of all Heavy Armor & Sneak do not work together, plus destruction perk will draw more attention to you if your sneaking . So it who be best if u go with light armor & archery. With silent casting, I will not draw any attention if using destruction. At early game I will sneak first and if I draw attention for some reason, I will cast destruction until they come up close and I switch to one-handed to finish them off. With frost spell, I can slow them down and they won't have enough time to reach me. Like MrBuio has said, with Conditioning in Heavy Armor, sneaking could work. Only problem, it takes a while to reach 70 skill. Heavy armor is good for additional protection just in case I mess up and they look cooler, too. I want to wear full Daedric armor and it is another reason, also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomboy2k1 Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Here is my final build. Do you like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathjam Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The pickpocket perk, extra pockets is very nice to have and would help you carry more as the heavy armour is much heavier than light armour. Also, wearing heavy armour, I can see you getting detected quite easily and fights becoming drawn out rather than the usual 1 shot backstab you usually get with sneaking. Plus light armour can reach the same max armour rating as heavy armour in end game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomboy2k1 Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 The pickpocket perk, extra pockets is very nice to have and would help you carry more as the heavy armour is much heavier than light armour. Also, wearing heavy armour, I can see you getting detected quite easily and fights becoming drawn out rather than the usual 1 shot backstab you usually get with sneaking. Plus light armour can reach the same max armour rating as heavy armour in end game. With the Conditioning perk, it doesn't matter because the heavy armor weighs nothing! It's true I can get detected quite easy early in the game but I'm thinking about power level Heavy Armor. It is pretty easy to do anyway. I really doubt light armor can reach the same max armor rating because heavy armor already has a higher base armor rating. If you compare both with all identical perks, heavy armor wins. I hate it when I die because I jump off a cliff. With Cushioned, I only take half damage which I find appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathjam Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) The pickpocket perk, extra pockets is very nice to have and would help you carry more as the heavy armour is much heavier than light armour. Also, wearing heavy armour, I can see you getting detected quite easily and fights becoming drawn out rather than the usual 1 shot backstab you usually get with sneaking. Plus light armour can reach the same max armour rating as heavy armour in end game. With the Conditioning perk, it doesn't matter because the heavy armor weighs nothing! It's true I can get detected quite easy early in the game but I'm thinking about power level Heavy Armor. It is pretty easy to do anyway. I really doubt light armor can reach the same max armor rating because heavy armor already has a higher base armor rating. If you compare both with all identical perks, heavy armor wins. I hate it when I die because I jump off a cliff. With Cushioned, I only take half damage which I find appealing. Sorry i forgot, thats with smithing that light armour can reach the same values. Heavy armour gets there much more easily without. But if you are sneaking, most of your attacks I presume will come from backstabs. You aren't using blocking which is useful for maximising defence with heavy armour, and you are taking smithing so you are going to be upgrading armour, or at least, should have the ability to do so. Also, the last skill on light armour is more useful - avoiding 1/10 attacks versus reflecting 10% damage which i presume to be physical. EDIT: Just realised the smithing is debateable as you are going for daedric, presumably to make the strongest weapons. Edited January 25, 2012 by deathjam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastafrola Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) *Illusion has spells that replace muffle and steatlh perks. You don't need to go that far in the left side of the sneak tree. *If you are going to fight with dual wield weapon I think you won't need savage strike, critical charge and paralizing strike. You can save some perk points that can be used to fill the Illusion perk tree in case some creatures resist some spells. Edited January 25, 2012 by pastafrola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanchan05 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 *silent casting only affects the cast itself. So even if you have silent casting, if you throw a stream of lightning/fire/ice at them continuously, they'll see you quickly. Unlike archery where there is just one arrow shot which you control the frequency of when they become alert. Quiet casting and sneak doesn't make you invisible, it just makes you unnoticed until you do something noisy/extravagant, like shoot a stream of fire. Destruction was not designed for silent/sneak kills. *sneaking in heavy armor does not work as well as with light armor. Even with all the perks in heavy, you're still louder and more easily detected than wearing light unless you wear Ebony Mail (Daedric artifact) *lightfoot and silent roll are useless perks to spend on unless you plan on going shadow master perk which isn't really worth it IMO. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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