SSE CTD on Save After Hours of Gameplay

[Browzy]

Hi,

 

i started the Vilja Quest. After leaving the Tavern the AutoSave went up from 4900 KB to 7900 KB

I got 22 undefined elements with XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect from EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp (451 ChangeForms - 1256 ScriptInstances)

 

The next Auto Save crashed.

 

seems like an issue between XPMSE plugin (and the weapon placement you may set/changed in the MCM) and Vilja plugin. How are they loaded in your game? (Which goes first for them)

[squireoivanhoe]

Sorry for the AFK Funkstille, I was in the hospital.

 

I agree with Browzy. I use Vilja and it is pretty well respected in terms of stability, so there is probably some conflict there with XPMSE. I would go through the instructions for XPMSE very carefully to make sure that you have a correct load order, it's working well with FNIS, and everything else on the page (things like compatability with RaceMenu, etc).

[SaintGW]

Hi.

Just started to get CTDs on saves, auto saves, and quick saves. I also happens sometimes when I would fast travel or change zones in Solitude, but I think that is more to do with it auto saving when I zone. I tried using the REsaver and it works for one save then try to save again or after an auto save it CTDs again.

My load order is:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
254 FE 0 ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl
254 FE 1 ccedhsse001-norjewel.esl
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
6 6 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
7 7 Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp
8 8 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp
9 9 Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp
10 a iNeed.esp
11 b iNeed - Extended.esp
12 c Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
13 d SMIM-SE-Merged-NoRiftenRopes-NoSolitudeRopes.esp
14 e Cutting Room Floor.esp
15 f Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
16 10 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
17 11 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
18 12 SkyUI_SE.esp
19 13 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
20 14 AHZmoreHUD.esp
21 15 AMatterOfTime.esp
22 16 AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp
23 17 Artful Dodger - Dynamic Pickpocket Cap.esp
24 18 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
25 19 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
26 1a Immersive Jewelry.esp
27 1b Obsidian Weathers.esp
28 1c OpulentThievesGuild.esp
29 1d moonpath.esp
30 1e JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp
31 1f SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp
32 20 SkyrimSewers.esp
33 21 Run For Your Lives.esp
34 22 Cloaks.esp
35 23 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
36 24 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
37 25 Dawnguard Delayed - Level 50.esp
38 26 DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp
39 27 Immersive Weapons.esp
40 28 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
41 29 HeljarchenFarm.esp
42 2a Inigo.esp
43 2b WindstadMine.esp
44 2c Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
45 2d Predator Vision.esp
46 2e SilentSneakAttack.esp
47 2f WetandCold.esp
48 30 honedmetal.esp
49 31 iHUD.esp
50 32 PumpingIron.esp
51 33 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
52 34 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
53 35 Masters of Death.esp
54 36 WZOblivionArtifacts.esp
55 37 AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp
56 38 HearthfireMultiKid.esp
57 39 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
58 3a DBM_IW_Patch.esp
59 3b DBM_OblivionArtifacts_Patch.esp
60 3c Faction Crossbows.esp
61 3d PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
62 3e ForgottenCity.esp
63 3f DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp
64 40 DBM_IA_Patch.esp
65 41 DBM_iNeed_Patch.esp
66 42 icebladeofthemonarch.esp
67 43 DBM_IceBladeMonarch_Patch.esp
68 44 DBM_HA_Patch.esp
69 45 DBM_ImmersiveJewelry_Patch.esp
70 46 DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp
71 47 50 More Perk Points.esp
72 48 DFTA_Dawnbreaker.esp
73 49 MLU.esp
74 4a DBM_MLU_Patch.esp
75 4b Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
76 4c Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
77 4d Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
78 4e Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
79 4f Convenient Horses.esp
80 50 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
81 51 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
254 FE 2 RealisticWaterTwo - Needs Mod Patch.esp
254 FE 3 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
82 52 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

 

 

Edit: It is no longer CTD when I save or quick save. I turned off all auto saves to be safe.

Edited April 29, 2019 by SaintGW

[squireoivanhoe]

Glad to hear that it's working Saint GW. Let us know if it becomes an issue again.

[SaintGW]

And it has started up again. I have used the RE saver, but there is nothing to clean it says. So I am not sure what to do. I was just finishing up on this character too.

 

Edit: I can save immediately after loading the file, but after about 20 seconds or so, I go to save or quick save and CTD.

 

 

Edit: Ok, just checked the save file folder, one tmp file was there. I deleted that, along with some older saves that I wouldn't need anymore.
But still no progress, I can save right after loading up, but after about 20 seconds, can't save at all.

 

Edit: Loaded up a slightly earlier save and saves seem to be working. Not sure why this one isn't having any issues but the other one is.

Edited May 10, 2019 by SaintGW

[squireoivanhoe]

SaintGW, when you used ReSaver the first time, were you able to identify the mod that had the problem script(s)? You will want to remove that mod in order to truly be out of the woods. In earlier saves that script may not have fired yet.

[SaintGW]

I didn't even think to check which mod they came from, I just cleaned them up. But the earlier save I was talking about, was only 2 hours before the CTDs started up again, but well after I had cleaned it. Either way it started CTD again on the earlier save as well. That character was pretty much done anyway, I only had to go get one more thing, for what I wanted to do with that character, but it wasn't super important, I can get it on my new one. I did deactivate some mods before starting this new character though. If it starts happening on this save, I will be sure to post about it, and this time check to see what mod those unnattached instnaces came from.

I do know that file had I think over 100k script instances.

Edited May 11, 2019 by SaintGW

[squireoivanhoe]

Thanks for the data SaintGW. Hopefully you'll catch the culprit by accident and not have to post again!

 

For posterity's sake, when doing the fix, be sure to do step #4!

[SaintGW]

So it has begun to start CTD on save on a new character. I have done one other character before this one, but after the other file that was getting CTDs. Luckily I am not that far into this. I think I know what the culprit is for this character, it will set me back a couple hours but that isn't too bad. I did try to check for any unattached instances and undefined elements, but there are none.

My primary suspect is the display sharing function of the Legacy of the Dragonborn mod. I will keep this post updated either way.

[squireoivanhoe]

:( Sorry SaintGW. Keep us posted.