cm97878 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) Using Alternate Start, I ended up beginning right near Windhelm. The issue is, when I get too close to the city, my game stops responding. It's not a true CTD, as it still is open, just unresponsive. I've waited for quite some time, and it does not freeze. I've not gone through all of my mods, but the issue confuses me: Molag Bal's Inferno seems to cause the crash, and is the first to do so in the following list. SMIM also causes it, and I've yet to go through the rest. Mod List: • 00 Skyrim.esm• 01 Update.esm• 02 Dawnguard.esm• 03 HearthFires.esm• 04 Dragonborn.esm• 05 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp [Version 3.0.7]• 06 ApachiiHair.esm• 07 ApachiiHairMales.esm• 08 arnima.esm• 09 CompanionArissa.esm• 0A Gray Fox Cowl.esm• 0B HighResTexturePack01.esp• 0C HighResTexturePack02.esp• 0D HighResTexturePack03.esp• 0E Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.2.1]• 0F PerkusMaximus_Master.esp• 10 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp• 11 PerMa Warrior Defluffed.esp• 12 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp• 13 PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp• 14 PerMa Thief Defluffed.esp• 15 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp• 16 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp• 17 PerMa Mage Defluffed.esp• 18 PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp• 19 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp• 1A WerewolfPerksExpanded.esp• 1B LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp• 1C DBM_UnofficialFix_Patch.esp• 1D Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 3.1.5a]• 1E Alternate Start – New Beginnings.esp• 1F Realistic Legendary Damage.esp• 20 Inigo.esp• 21 AchieveThat.esp• 22 summersetisles.esp• 23 AgentOfRighteousMight.esp• 24 WorldEaterBeater.esp• 25 CaranthirTowerReborn.esp• 26 WheelsOfLull.esp• ++ BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp• 27 RaceMenu.esp• 28 RaceMenuPlugin.esp• 29 FNIS.esp• 2A IcePenguinWorldMap.esp• 2B Weapons & Armor_FasterArrows.esp• 2C CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp• 2D MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp [Version 1.5]• 2E Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp• 2F WheezesDungeonPack1.esp• 30 w2salem.esp• 31 CornerofTheSkyrim.esp• 32 Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp• 33 HelmetToggle.esp• 34 Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp• ++ Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp• ++ Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp• ++ Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp• 35 Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp• 36 Animated Dragon Wings.esp• 37 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp• 38 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp• 39 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp• 3A Volundr.esp• 3B morsel.esp• 3C buildablehouse.esp• 3D BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp• 3E ForgottenCity.esp• 3F Darkend.esp• 40 The Pit.esp• 41 MzarkWonders.esp• 42 ApotheosisDemo.esp• 43 PP_OgmundsTomb.esp• 44 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp• 45 DBM_WAFR Patch.esp• 46 Pre PaMa WAFR Patch.esp• 47 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp• 48 DBM_MAS_Patch.esp• 49 Helgen Reborn.esp [Version 105.3]• 4A DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp• 4B Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp• 4C Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp• 4D PerMa Apocalypse + Defluff.esp• 4E Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp• 4F AK- Boethiah Alternate.esp• 50 TKDodge.esp• 51 HitStop.esp• 52 JaxonzEnhGrab.esp• ++ Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Light Weight).esp• ++ BCS - PERMA Patch EN.esp• ++ BCSLL-SKYREorPERMA Patch.esp• ++ DBM_Arnima_Patch.esp• ++ Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp• ++ Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Light Weight).esp• ++ Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp• 53 Immersive Weapons.esp• 54 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp• 55 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp• 56 DBM_IWIA_Patch.esp• 57 UnreadBooksGlow.esp [Version 2.2.0]• 58 Dr_Bandolier.esp• 59 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.9]• 5A ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp• 5B ForgottenMagic_Redone_PerMa Patch.esp• 5C SMIM-Merged-All.esp• 5D TakeNotes.esp• 5E SkyUI.esp• ++ No Killmoves, No Killcams, No Killbites.esp• 5F PatchusMaximus.esp Specs: Intel i5 6500 Processor16GB RAMMSI H110M Gaming MotherboardRadeon RX 480 GPU I've tentatively eliminated the crash up through SMIM. Another issue I have when debugging is that sometimes it crashes the instant i get too close, and sometimes it can wait for up to 5 minutes as I wander around the city. I can't really figure out why any of these mods are crashing, because as far as I can tell they shouldn't. EDIT: Tried installing ENBoost. With all the mods enabled, it actually does make it to a CTD, but if I disable SMIM, it returns to the strange lockup crash. Edited March 8, 2017 by cm97878 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 as far as I can see by that mod list, you're crashing because you have no bashed patch, your mods are WAY out of order, and you have ESP's loading with you ESM's ( SKYui and Falskaar ) 2 things A) Falskaar may be broken, there are dozens of people who have gotten to the last quest in the mod and not been able to do it because the characters needed never showed up B) you NEED a bashed or merged patch with that many mods being used, try this link below and follow it STEP BY STEP https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2235394-beginners-guide-to-modding/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm97878 Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 as far as I can see by that mod list, you're crashing because you have no bashed patch, your mods are WAY out of order, and you have ESP's loading with you ESM's ( SKYui and Falskaar ) 2 things A) Falskaar may be broken, there are dozens of people who have gotten to the last quest in the mod and not been able to do it because the characters needed never showed up B) you NEED a bashed or merged patch with that many mods being used, try this link below and follow it STEP BY STEP https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2235394-beginners-guide-to-modding/Thank you for the help! That's not actually the mod order, I feel somewhat stupid for using that. I'll update the main post with the actual modorder, and then follow that link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm97878 Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) So, my new issue is the error code as follows: INFO (10:31:10.0994): Windows Exception (c0000005). Origin: "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\TESV.exe" (4bd832). Last hooked call: void *__stdcall CreateFileW_rep(const wchar_t *,unsigned long,unsigned long,struct _SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES *,unsigned long,unsigned long,void *) If more detail is needed I can post more of the log. EDIT: Removing SMIM removes the CTD, but the lockup crash is back. The log seems to end with the same thing every time, which is as follows: DEBUG (10:46:44.0452): createfile bsa not rerouted: D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\DATA\aag -> D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\DATA\skyrim - sounds.bsa -> D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\data\skyrim - sounds.bsa DEBUG (10:46:44.0653): createfile bsa not rerouted: D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\DATA\aag -> D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\DATA\skyrim - sounds.bsa -> D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\data\skyrim - sounds.bsa DEBUG (10:46:44.0722): createfile bsa not rerouted: D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\DATA\aag -> D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\DATA\skyrim - sounds.bsa -> D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\data\skyrim - sounds.bsa DEBUG (10:46:44.0927): createfile bsa not rerouted: D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\DATA\aag -> D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\DATA\skyrim - sounds.bsa -> D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\data\skyrim - sounds.bsa DEBUG (10:46:44.0995): createfile bsa not rerouted: D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\DATA\aag -> D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\DATA\skyrim - sounds.bsa -> D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\data\skyrim - sounds.bsa DEBUG (10:46:45.0231): createfile bsa not rerouted: D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\DATA\aag -> D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\DATA\skyrim - sounds.bsa -> D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\data\skyrim - sounds.bsa DEBUG (10:46:45.0301): createfile bsa not rerouted: D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\DATA\aag -> D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\DATA\skyrim - sounds.bsa -> D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\data\skyrim - sounds.bsa Edited March 8, 2017 by cm97878 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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