ACTA and The Nexus.

[althekoolkid]

Does anyone know if The Nexus (nexusmods) is susceptible to ACTA or any similar act?

 

I know A LOT of unoriginal content passes through here and I've already seen a few of my favorites sites shut down.

[Korodic]

has ACTA been signed in the UK?

[HeyYou]

ACTA is still in limbo. Seems the European parliament gets the final say. That won't happen til june of this year.

 

If it passes, it instantly becomes illegal to play games on Linux, or any other open-source operating system..... Another fine example of folks without a clue, writing legislation they don't understand.

[Syco21]

It's hard to say, since all the negotiations are done in secret and are classified.

[Korodic]

I don't see why every politician jumps aboard the bandwagon of things they have not the slightest clue in. Legislators are running out of laws to make, and sot hey keep their jobs by supporting every corporate man in a tux that they can. Like those loose women in Chicago they get in a car and go with no questions asked and cash behind the back.

 

While I understand why they might want to push this out to kill off piracy, it is completely ineffective. Companies claim they are losing a profit, and in some ways they are. However, a large percent of pirates are likely to have never bought the programs in the first place, so in reality the company would not have had a profit to begin with. Take photoshop for example. It costs $600. I know some of my friends have it and I doubt they could afford it. However, if they could no longer pirate it, they wouldn't have it and wouldn't buy it. So why should they have it at all? Well in some cases like this, if these students ever want to be successful in the business world, they probably need photoshop skills with the latest version, but Adobe makes it too expensive to make that possible. Sure they offer mildly cheaper student versions but I'm sure it is not the same. Though, their price is justified because it is such a professional tool, so businesses are willing to push out that kind of money. If software was cheaper people would be willing to buy more. Companies are also at fault here, if there program is able to be cracked that easily then they aren't defending their product properly. There are plenty of programs that pirates can't touch because the tools make it 100% license-key protected.

 

I've seen it happen a dozen times, part of my job of being an intern System's Admin. Also I'm not saying I condone piracy, but I am saying that companies do have more options than just rushing to create a ton of laws that will make the internet a wasteland. Hopefully the nexus is not affected by this, because these laws fail to understand that there is copy-righted content everywhere, and with millions of users it is impossible and illogical to be able to go through every little bit of content and catch every single one of them. Half of it is not done intentionally.

 

Come to think of it, I'm technically guilty too, on youtbe I did a class project then added music to it. You know what happened? Youtube flagged it for WMG even though it was for SCHOOL, and I was well within the youtube rights, they took it down. Of course WMG doesn't care, if everyone had to ask permission to use something, we'd never get a reply because WMG would be FLOODED with requests... But I'm no musician, so how am I supposed to get music on my videos? I really just don't understand their logic.

 

Also while I'm ranting :D... Why do they price movies on DVD at 20$+ when it costs 10 to see it at the movies? No wonder their sales are down and piracy is up, people buy these discs and what... only watch them once before going in the cabinet for good?

 

But again, piracy is still piracy and the owners of the content (AKA content mafia) are entitled to do what they want with what they own, like big kids on a playground who won't share. Honestly, if I disagree with their prices and etc. I just won't buy it. Best way to make them listen is to actively boycott ;D

[Balagor]

The ACTA agreement was signed 2 days ago in the EU parlament by several countries. Denmark and UK being amongst them.

Source: DenmarkOnline.DK/EU

[olafreinhardweyer]

I don't see why every politician jumps aboard the bandwagon of things they have not the slightest clue in. Legislators are running out of laws to make, and sot hey keep their jobs by supporting every corporate man in a tux that they can. Like those loose women in Chicago they get in a car and go with no questions asked and cash behind the back.

 

"Oh, let them be busy. Politicians love to be busy. It's their substitute for achievement."

Sir Humphrey (Yes, Minister - British TV Series)

 

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Nobody needs those costly softwares like Photoshop anyways, there so MANY free solutions. Photofiltre might not encompass everything Photoshop provides but then you just use another free program alongside. With so much Freeware out there doing the same thing as the costly one, what sense does it make having pirated stuff anyways? Is it to feel like a Pro, having and using it? Talk about falling for the advertisement, lol! Piracy, to me it seems, often is just another form of snobism. The true craftsmen chooses his own tools and they are so much alike there is no difficulty learning the pricy stuff for the workplace later, either.

Edited January 28, 2012 by olafreinhardweyer

[Aurielius]

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Also while I'm ranting :D... Why do they price movies on DVD at 20$+ when it costs 10 to see it at the movies? No wonder their sales are down and piracy is up, people buy these discs and what... only watch them once before going in the cabinet for good?

 

Because one is the price of renting a single viewing and the other is the price of ownership? That you only watch it once is your choice the seller assumes you will have unlimited viewing.

[Javalin]

The whole idea is meant to be aimed at stopping Pirates, when really they will only be killing legitimate websites, and businesses - Simply because Pirates can just move it somewhere else where Copyright/Piracy laws are not as strict. There will be no appeals process for it

 

Sadly, this website will be caught in the crossfire too.

 

Pirates are bad, but this will just kill internet freedom.

 

 

Massive websites like:

 

Google, Amazon, AskJeeves, E-bay, Wikipedia and Yahoo - Other less-known e-commerce and/or Search Engines.

 

Gaming Communities:

 

The Nexus Forums, The Daily Blink, Twitchtv, Tankspot, Gamebreakertv, MMOChampion - Now unless they are not directly run by the organisations that own the games, then that company can jump on the bandwagon and call up that Attorney guy with a complaint, and will immediately shut it down because "They ain't making money" or "Because they felt like it" - The only way an appeal could go through, is by going to court - Which would cost a lot anyway, plus a lot of lost internet traffic.

 

SOPA and PIPA are other things probably somewhat related to this topic.

 

http://americancensorship.org/ <--- Sign petition too, even if you are outside of the US

 

 

Like I said, I am no lover of Pirates and I do frown upon it - But you can't stop them either.

[Beriallord]

If it goes before the US Supreme Court, it will be deemed unconstitutional. I am certain of it.

 

And it might not even make it that far, a State Supreme Court might rule against it and then the government might not even pursue it further, knowing they would be wasting time and money pursuing it further.

 

The file sharing sites would have no way to determine whether content being uploaded is copyrighted material or not, as long as the person uploading does it in a certain way. Even if they can scan the files, someone could encrypt them. Winrar and 7zip kinda already do that. Meaning think of a creative name that would let the people downloading know what they are getting without raising any red flags to whatever kind of automatic detection system these sites might have in place. And just because a few abuse file sharing for pirating, doesn't mean everyone that shares files that are legit should be punished for it. What if someone sends anthrax through the mail, does that mean the post office should be held liable for a terrorist act?

 

I would rather the internet be a place for free exchange of information, even if a few abuse that for pirating copyrighted material. The pirates always win in the end, and will figure out ways around the new system, so only the people who use file sharing for legit reasons will reap the negative impacts of it.

 

Filesonic was blocked for American users, but I could get access to it anyway if I wanted, by going through an onion router.

 

I suppose the Nexus might be exempt if they get permission from the respective publishers to host this content. But then again, I don't even know how that would work.

 

There are a ton of really crooked, back door deals going on to try and get this in the US. Arguably even more crooked than the pirates. This isn't just about pirates, its about the freedom to exchange information over the internet. I would appose any anti-gun rights legislation for the same reasons as I would appose this. Just because there are a few people who murder with guns, doesn't mean the people who use them responsibly should be punished.

 

They could make a system where the dumb pirates will be caught, but the smart ones will still go undetected, and that would be the best they could do without infringing on everyone's rights.

Edited January 28, 2012 by Beriallord