Critique of the game and why I don't like it (anymore).

[seanxx]

Skyrim is a pretty special game, it is the one game people can say with a straight face ' after playing 100 hours this is why I dont like it....'

 

I think people are wanting too much, they want this huge sprawling world / gazillions of dungeons to explore ...but also character arcs and more depth for loads of followers and NPCs , choices that have real world consequences and a gripping narrative with amazing graphics. I too would love Witcher 2 graphics set in a T.E.S size world and artwork with Bioware voice/writing and story /character arcs, but ...is that realistic for $60 ? i think not.

Edited March 19, 2012 by seanxx

[Fortunado3]

Skyrim is a pretty special game, it is the one game people can say with a straight face ' after playing 100 hours this is why I dont like it....'

 

I think people are wanting too much, they want this huge sprawling world / gazillions of dungeons to explore ...but also character arcs and more depth for loads of followers and NPCs , choices that have real world consequences and a gripping narrative with amazing graphics. I too would love Witcher 2 graphics set in a T.E.S size world and artwork with Bioware voice/writing and story /character arcs, but ...is that realistic for $60 ? i think not.

Nah, we don't want too much. We want an ES game. They could have all of this stuff in the games over a decade ago, why not now?

[phenderix]

Didn't even read a lot of the posts in this thread because they are absolutely ludicrous.

 

(...)

 

All in all Skyrim is an amazing game

 

:biggrin: Just because you didn't indicate in any way that you are mentally able to comprehend complex sentences by that post, doesn't mean that they are ludicrous.

 

If you don't even bother to READ other opinions, then you shouldn't even be allowed to post. Be happy in your ignorance.

 

Some people are just... too much for me.

 

You're right, I have a tiny brain and can't understand English sentences. I'm sorry.

Also I did not know that I had to read every post that state the same thing over and over in order to be able post here, sorry for my ignorance.

I know being a misanthrope can be hard sometimes, you will pull through though I am sure.

 

 

A lot of these complaints are valid, I will give them that.

The complaints don't make it a terrible game though.

I also find it highly ironic that some of you hate the game so much but spend all this time posting about it.

 

I think this is a good discussion of sorts but things just don't need to be blown out of proportion.

One or two flaws does not kill a game, especially a game of Skyrim's size and depth.

[Karasuman]

 

The complaints don't make it a terrible game though.

 

 

Not to you, maybe. Honestly Skyrim's not terrible in my opinion, but it wasn't amazing by any stretch. 10 or 15 hours into it and I was like "Yeah thanks, but no thanks."

[robanybody2000]

It's not THAT bad. Linear true, repetitive...yes. I kinda like the fact that you aren't that noticed even after saving the world. I don't care that much about the graphics if it were a good game. I don't like how you people say that you have to have imagination to play it (if you have enough you can look at a piece of paper and be better than any game -don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Pen&Paper-).The sad part is that i was hopeing that Skyrim would be more like Morrowind (RPG oriented), infact it's more of an hack&slash dungeoning thing with a bit of twist in character development (wich would have been good for a MMORPG but in this case they shoul have focused more on the sorrounding's).

[eltucu]

My mistake was trying to play this after New Vegas. If i came directly after Oblivion i'd be thinking "woah, this is good!" But sadly, i played Fallout 3 in the middle, from wich Beth could have "imported" a lot of ideas (several skill checks, a lil bit of the humor, etc) and after that, New Vegas, though in that case they'd need to hire Obsidian's writers to "import" stuff from it. After those two, which made as RPGs a bunch of steps forward, you play Skyrim's quests and think "WTF is this?"

 

Im not going to say it is a bad game, but im not going to say that is a GOTY either (hell, it even made it to the "technology" category in the GDC Awards! ) but it lacks a serious amount of attention in the narrative part, characters and things like that. Im still amazed they can say that they have a 1 hundred people team, from which only 8 are level designers, EIGHT people designed 100 dungeons. I mean, WTF, dungeons are like 50% of the game if not more and they only have less than 10% of the people working on that? WTF is everyone else doing if not level design? I know they're not coding sht because there is probably two dudes in charge of that so thats how we end with the PS3 issues and the "oops, set up the compiler to optimize for twenty year old CPUs!" in the PC version...

[tg08096]

I find it funny how some people complain about Skyrim, cause it "only" gave them 50-100 hours of gameplay before they got totally bored or finished most of the main stuff. Yeah, there's more content, but how can anyone justify complaining about 50 hours of gameplay in one game? Because it was supposed to give them 200 hours?

 

No. Oblivion to Skyrim took what, 7 years? I dont feel like getting up to look at the case ATM (recovering from last night), but say TES VI Valenwood will be here in 7 years. So take 7 years, multiplied by 52 weeks in a year, multiplied by 10 - 20 hours a week, lets use 10. So 7 * 52 * 10 = 3640 hours. That's three thousand six hundred and forty hours is the answer to that silly question :thumbsup:

 

Is this ridiculous? Many people would say yes, but seriously. I cant play MW3 cuz it sucks imho. In that 7 years will I really play that many hours? No, I will get bored with this game and play Morrowind or Oblivion again, I will play Black Ops 2 thru 5 and MW4 - 6. In 7 years, Morrowind game time might be at 3k grand total, and when Elder Scrolls Seven is out I just might have 3k in Skyrim. So no, it's not that ridiculous. 50 hours is ridiculous.

 

I'm not bashing your post BTW I am just expressing my opinion and illustrating the reasoning behind the opinion. I would not expect that many hours of enjoyment from lesser developers, but I have come to expect it from Bethesda.

 

As for what the OP said, it's true. You forgot that there is only 1 of each guildhall. I'm supposed to believe that in the entire expanse of Skyrim that there are only 16 members of the College of Winterhold, 11 Companions, 11 Dark Botherhood members? Get the f*** out of here. 11 to 16 members of anything is absolutely pathetic. Basically, the population of Skyrim is like 99% criminals and 1% constructive members of society. It is a third world country in complete disarray and needs to be fixed by someone, and it's not gonna be the Thalmor.

Edited April 15, 2012 by tg08096

[RedRavyn]

When it comes to games I always ask myself just one question to determine if it was a good game or a bad game. Did I receive enough enjoyment to justify its cost?

 

You hit the nail on the head, here. My complaints about Skyrim are scattered around this board. I'm sure many of the fanboys see my name and just skip over my comments. That's OK, too. Bethesda needs its fanboys or it will go out of business.

 

For me, the answer has to be "yes". I've gotten much more than my sixty bucks out of this game. I play a lightly-modded version of pre-1.5 Skyrim, and I enjoy playing it, in spite of the many frustrations with bugs so obvious that the best pesticide for Skyrim is a nuclear bombardment. The Thalmor will probably supply that for us.

 

It's only because I CAN play this game the way I want to, that I can call it a "good game" in spite of its obvious and well-documented shortcomings. My latest experiment is based upon "Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!" (not likely what Daniel Farragut actually said, but close enough). I said to hell with the quests. I'm just going to explore and live off the land (OK, I did kill Anise and took over her shack). I don't even care if I break any quests. I'm having a lot of fun, too -- currently at level 10 and outmatched by just about every opponent I meet, since I don't have access to the latest and greatest toys, but it's a blast.

 

It's given Skyrim new life for me, and this is the way Bethesda claimed the game was supposed to be played (the whole "open world" concept). The rich, near-realistic, and almost-believable world their level designers crafted is, I think, a work of art. This is completely in contrast with the very shoddy quest design, which is probably responsible for at least 4 out 5 of the bugs and glitches that permeate the game at every turn.

 

I'm retired. I live alone and I spend a lot of time with Skyrim, experimenting even to the point of forking my game in various directions when I'm left with various choices and can't make up my mind which is the best. In this playthrough I haven't broken it. The play is solid and unglitched, if you don't count the mammoth I saw buried head first in the ground and wiggling his feet like he was trying to walk to China (or whatever is on the other side of Nirn from Skyrim). I'm loving Skyrim. I'm also hating it, because it could have been so much better, right out of the box, had Bethesda only given the developers time to finish what they started, rather than rushing it to an arbitrary release date.

[ElricOfGrans]

Am I disappointed by Skyrim? Definitely. Did I get my money's worth? Yeah, I cannot argue that.

 

Skyrim *could* have easily been a vastly better game, but the sad fact is I got more hours enjoyment out of it than most games I have played in the past year or two. According to Steam (which is, admittedly, not all the games I played) I have only two other games in which I have played comparable hours (in that time-frame): Civilization V and Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines (also famously flawed games, funnily enough). On the other hand, I am positive I spent more time playing Oblivion in two(?) months than I have Skyrim.

[Gibbo3771]

I agree with the OP's points besides graphics, with all the mod tweaks on here and HD textures...they are pretty top line lol.

 

However I do hate the fact that there is fari stretches of land with nothing on it but savage wolfs, the fact that nearly every item is the same and caves/ruins all have the same crap and obvious traps.

 

NPC's sucks as well, dialogue is mostly boring and lack information.

 

It also feels like EVERYONE in this god forsaken land is lazy, too rich even when sleeping in their own s*** and piss, are incapable of combat....cant do anything from themself.

 

Would it hurt for an NPC to brag about this thing he found in a cave so we can go and break into his house? Nope, you have to go fetch it for him.

 

Also "Hired Thugs" suck, you pickpocket 100 people without getting spotted, you kill someone without anyone knowing...all of a sudden you come out of your house and there is a gang of roughnecks with swords that attack you and the guards shrug it off....UNTIL you hit back and then YOU'RE the criminal.

 

Meh, I still play it anyways.