If there were a war of the races

[saldrex]

No i am not saying that they would just sit there if there was a war. They are not a true race though and are creations of the 7 daedra gods. Since they are dunmer gods they would be more inclined to help them but after the dunmer have shunned them aside they might no longer be willing to lend their help. They daedra would probably not help the dunmer but not hurt them either but rather protect the dunmer lands which are also their own. This would make morrowind the hardest province to destroy unlike the imperial province which would quickly collapse.

[Breton Thief Oriana]

The imperials  forced the dunmer to sgn a treaty and the imperial forces are very strong and organized. And yes I admit that they do have a crappy position in the center of the empire but if they failed to defend it on thier own the orcs would probably help because the imprials were the only ones that accepted them into normal citizens instead of crazy Barbarians

dude, we realize you said all that before. Come up with something else. As most, I alredy KNEW that. I was bringing something new, and you failed to come up with an appropriate counter point that hadnt alredy been said. As it is, ill debate it again. All the races are at war with all the others. The imperials would not have the orcs because of this.

 

Second, how do the dunmer have lots of enemys? no race at the time you play as nerevarine has a lot of enemys, save akavir dragons.

[saldrex]

I have countered all that supports the imperials in this battle. Sludgewort you have been posting nothing that supports the imperials. YOu should try to give reasons that they should and or could win.

 

Also in an all out war why would all the races be trying to attack the dunmer. I think that logically they would be thinking anout their own lands and the protection of them. If some of the races left with their armoes to maby sail over to attack since thay are on the other side of the continent it would be a stupid idea. Once they leave their lands would quickly be conquered.

 

The dunmer have the best position out of the entire contenet being that they are in the corner which makes their lands easier to protect.

 

PS - organization means almost nothing in an all out war. In history the most organized army does not always win. IN ancient rome which had one of the most organized and trained armies were plowed through by the "barbarians" of the north. The tribes of the north had little organoin but easily defeated the romans which is clearly what the imperials are based upon. With this i now think that the nords might be able to win.

[MDH Weaponeer]

This is war of the races, not war of the message board.

 

Either the Bretons or the Nords.

 

Wood Elves Vs. Bretons would be quite interesting. One side would be firing massive amounts of arrows stabbing through the bretons, another would have gigantic elemental spells rampaging through the other.

 

Sorry... Although dark elves are good, I seriously hate their b!tchy additude towards other races...

 

 

 

... bretons all the way. My level 40 breton can kill Dagoth Ur in about 20 seconds with his huge life flash spells.

[Dijas]

PS - organization means almost nothing in an all out war. In history the most organized army does not always win. IN ancient rome which had one of the most organized and trained armies were plowed through by the "barbarians" of the north. The tribes of the north had little organoin but easily defeated the romans which is clearly what the imperials are based upon. With this i now think that the nords might be able to win.

Definitely NOT true. Organization is essencial. Subestimation is mortal. Imperials would only be defeated by barbarians in a state of crisis, that is, the Romans were only defeated when their army was disorganized (full of mercenaries, much of them were non-scrupulous barbarians from the north) - in the V century. e.g. You mustn't compare this army with Iulius Caesar's army. Same to the Imperial in Morrowind, that's my opinion.

[thanateros]

Dumner would be able to win easily, not only with the strength of elite organizations but the great houses too would play a major role. Don't forget about the Morag Tong either, preemptive assassinations on oppossing leaders could turn the sides. Though they might be publicized as an Imperial organization they are still based in traditions set forth by Mephala, a Daedric goddess.

 

Either way, I think they have the organization, the tactics and the numbers to succeed.

[Don88]

i dont think that we can crown any one race the winner.

As others have said it depends on terrain, weather, time of day etc.

I think that every race would suffer great loses before realising that no one race was going to have enough members left to conquer the Island anyway. After a battle of the velocity the whole island(well the battlegrounds anyway) would in pieces. Forests burned or chopped down, cities in ruins. The island would be practicly inhabitable.

 

So I think that every race would suffer greatly. And who ever won would have won nothing other than a wasteland.

[hyperk1]

To Dijas and saldrex-actually the "barbarian" germanic tribes where VERY organized, the only way they caused the roman empire so much trouble is because of there organized tactics, they had inferrior weaponry and armor.

 

back on subject, if the races where to fight i would have to say imperials because if you think about it, they have allready beaten everyone else allready, including morrowind. So if the dunmer are allready bruised and beaten( i use this term lightly) then what makes you think they can win even though last time they lost..

[Ancalagon]

Out of curiousity, if the Imperials got a hold of another Numidium, (also, what happened to the one that they used way back when?) they would be the dominant force on Tamriel. Wasn't that how the Empire established itself, by using a (substationaly weak) Numidium to crush any and all who opposed them?

 

Unfortunately, this theory is shot to hell given the fact that the Heart of Lorkharn[sp] was destroyed, thus removing any major means of powering a third Numidium.

 

But, to be honest, I don't think stating that ____ race would win because 'tey are teh coolest!!11!' or 'they are the race of my character' or any other (pardon the comment) un-intelligent assumption. You cannot assume a race will dominate on pure strength alone. How they react to different terrain, strategy of attack and defense (read 'The Art of War' for a good idea on how a war is to be waged) and so on.

 

Any how, if all the races were at war, then the Daedra and Gods would go to war with eachother as well correct? Doesn't each Daedra favor at least one particular race? Azura for the Dunmer, Boetthingummy for the Orcs (IIRC) and some others... so essentialy the gods would fight as well, whcih begs the question, who is the strongest of the Daedra?

[Rune]

The war for Tamriel... hmm...

 

Here's my take on it:

 

1) The Argonians and the Khajit would fight alongside different races that hired them (or forced them) and wouldn't bond together. Thus at the end of the war they would be completely destroyed or there would only be a few left.

 

2) The Dunmer and the Nords would remember their ancient hatred towards each other, but the Dunmer would take the fight to the Cyrodill-Skyrim border. The Dunmer would win a majority of the first battles and will feel so victorious and proud that they would chase after the Nords when they retreat into the center of their homeland. There, Nordic barbarians would pick them off until they finally reached the main Nord army. Outnumbered and freezing, they would be destroyed.

 

3) The Altmer, believing that the best way to win the war is to sneak around and take out the races by slowly advancing from outer borders, would sail to Skyrim. They would sevierly under-estimate the power of the Nords and would die quickly, mainly because many of the important generals would realize that they cannot win and flee back to their homeland leaving their troops in a state of confusion.

 

4) The Redguards and the Orcs would engage in bloody battle after bloody battle, on the borders of Hammerfell and Cyrodill. Small skirmishes of other race's armies would try and interfere but would be destroyed. Neither side would successfully win, no other race would successfully conquor them, and they would eventually exterminate each other.

 

5) The Bretons and the Imperials would be the main battle. Each also winning the small wars with skirmishes of the other races (much like the Redguards and Orcs) but would suffer more heavily damages from them. The Bretons (being more intelligent and with better tactics than the Imperial's "traditional" method) would conquor, but not by much, the Imperial forces and destroy the last of them.

 

6) Realizing that only one race can live on Tamriel, and that what was started must be finished, the Nords and Bretons would mass their troops on the border of Cyrodill and Skyrim and battle. The Nords would be full of pride and not retreat this time, and because of this they would also fall under the hands of the Bretons.

 

7) The Bosmer. They were overlooked during the entire war, sending out small legions of "suicide" troops and not posing any real threat (thus it was their intention). They would finally come in full-force to Cyrodill where the Bretons currently were after defeating the Nords. They would suffer hardly any losses, and would massacre the Bretons with little struggle.

 

8) Tamriel would be ruled by the Bosmer, but it would be more of an anarchist-type of superiority. The few Khajit and Argonians left would return to their respective homelands and reside in small clans. The Altmer generals that survived (the ones that retreated) would seclude themselves from the rest of the world and remain that way. Small tribes of the remaining Bretons, Nords, Imperials, and Dunmer would exist throughout the wilderness of Tamriel. The Redguards and Orcs fought each other into extinction.

 

9) Fargoth Ur would rule all.

 

 

Whew...