Yet another Bleak Falls Barrow crash... [SSE]

[Shad0wlife]

Hello everybody!

 

I've got a really gamebreaking issue: Whenever I enter Bleak Falls Barrow's first area (Bleak Falls Temple), I crash after a few seconds.

I already tried ALL the options I could find on the internet that apply to my game:

- Deactivated ELFX

- Deactivated 3DNPC

- Deactivated SMIM

- Deactivated XMPSE and FNIS

- Didn't sneak

 

and all of them together (ELFX, 3DNPC are the only mods to change the cell (taken from SSEEdit)).

By deactivating I mean deactivating them in the Mods list in MO, so no Meshes etc remain. I made sure to disable all compatibility patches for these mods too.

 

The game version is Skyrim Special Edition!

 

But... I'm still crashing.

 

So, let's see if anyone else can find the issue.

First: my modlist from MO (including texture/model only mods), please remind that it is in reverse order! (first mod loaded is at bottom):

 

modlist.txt

 

+WaterPatch
+DynDOLOD Output
+No Boring Sleep-Wait Menu
+Lockpick Pro
+UltraWideScreen Interface
+TexGenLod
+Dragonbone Mastery - Weapons Retexture
+EyeCandy Staff of Magnus SE
+True HD Nightingale
+Barenziahs Crown Multicolored Glowing SE
+Barenziah's Glory SE
+Gemling Queen Dragon Claws SE
+White Phial Replacer SE
+4K Dragon Priest Masks of Immersion 2.0
+Sevenbase Small Golden Dibella Statue SE
+Sevenbase Dibella statue SE
+Edhildils Nocturnal statue SE
+Stunning Statues of Skyrim
+DUST v6 x1024
+WEBS SE x2048
+ELECTRIFY SEv4 x2048
+Magic Runes HD SE
+SSIRT v3.0
+Matso Immersive Sun
+ETHEREAL CLOUDS - Special Edition - 2K
+ETHEREAL COSMOS - Special Edition - Vivid
+PELTAPALOOZA Special Edition - FULL
+Draugr.by.Kajuan
+Deathwing Inspired Alduin (Reloaded) 8k SE
+Thanatos Dragon Design for Odahviing SE
+Replacement Ivy 2K SE
+High Definition Ivy 2K SE
+Deathbell HD - All-New Textures 2K SE
+Dark Brotherhood Tenets Restored - Standard Edition SE
+Arri's Snow Elf Ruins SSE 2K Textures
+Castle Volkihar HD Retexture SE
+Dawnguard Fortress Improved High Resolution 2k SE
+DragonbornHD Ultra - Apocrypha 4K
+4K Diffuse 2K Normalmap - Solitude
+Enhanced Lights and FX - No Homes
+Ruins Clutter Improved
+Northfires Photoreal Mountains 2 for SE 4K
+Real Mountains Rebuilt
+aMidianBorn Caves and Mines SE
+4K Diffuse 2K Normalmap - Windhelm
+4K Diffuse 2K Normalmap - Roads 1.1
+4K Diffuse 2K Normalmap - Riften
+4K Diffuse 2K Normalmap - Mines
+4K Diffuse 2K Normalmap - Markarth
+4K Diffuse 2K Normalmap - Landscape
+4K Diffuse 2K Normalmap - High Hrothgar
+4K diffuse 2K Normalmap - Farmhouse
+4K Diffuse 2K Normalmap - Bridges
+4K Diffuse 2K Normalmap - Whiterun
+4K Diffuse 2K Normalmap - Mountains
+CC's Enhanced Ore Veins SSE - Iron Color Patch FIXED
+CC's Enhanced Ore Veins SSE - 4K - 5.0
+Vivid Weathers
+Snowy AF Windhelm v1.5
+Fluffy Snow - 2K
+Skyrim HD 2K noLandscape
+NobleSkyrimM - SMIM Patch
+NobleSkyrimM - FULL PACK v.5.3.0 2K - For Skyrim Special Edition
+Dragonborn Landscape 2K SE
+Dragonborn Architecture 2K SE
+Vivid Landscapes Special Edition - Tundra Ground from Skyrim HD 2k
+Vivid Landscapes - Special Edition
+DynDOLOD Resources SE
+RUGNAROK - Special Edition - 2K
+BillBoards Generator
+Enhanced Vanilla Trees
-RAT Billboards
+Realistic Aspen Trees SE
+Enhanced Blood Textures
+A Quality World Map - Clear Map Skies
+9.0.1 A Quality World Map - Vivid with Stone Roads
+Don't Show Headgears
+Move it Dammit - SSE All-in-One
+KS Hairdos SSE
+FNIS_Generated
+XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended
+FNIS Behavior SE V7 0 Beta
-RAO - ELE patch SSE
+RAO - ELFX patch
+Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul
+Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul
+Realistic Ragdolls and Force
+Map Markers Complete
+Get On With It
+Gemling Queen Jewelry SE
+Left Hand Rings Modified SE
+Book Covers Skyrim SE - Original
+Static Mesh Improvement Mod
+Settlements Expanded SE - Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges Patch
+Skyrim Better Roads - EastMarch Module
+Skyrim Better Roads SE - Winterhold Module
+Skyrim Better Roads SE - The Rift Module
+Skyrim Better Roads
+RealisticWaterTwo - Verdant Patch
+Verdant 1.5 SSE Edition
+SFO Billboards for v2.5b (updated)
+Skyrim Flora Overhaul SE v2.72a
+RealisticWaterTwo LOD Fix
-Realistic Water Two Flowing
+Realistic Water Two
+Bijin AIO SSE-Serana Valerica
+Bijin AIO SSE SV - Optimized body meshes - CBBE
+Seranaholic - Texture update for all versions - CBBE
+Seranaholic v1.6 - CBBE
+Valerica High-res skin texture option - CBBE
+Valerica - CBBE
+Bijin Wives v1.1 - CBBE
+Bijin NPCs v1.2 - CBBE
+Bijin Warmaidens SE v3.1.3 - CBBE
+Shiva's Hair Replacer - The Forgotten City
+Shiva's Hair Replacer - Settlements Expanded SE
+Shiva's Hair Replacer - Immersive Patrols FaceGen
+Shiva's Hair Replacer - Falskaar FaceGen
+Shiva's Hair Replacer - 3DNPC (Interesting NPCs)
+Shiva's Hair Replacer - Arthmoor mods - Multiple FaceGen
+Shiva's Vanilla Hair Replacer
+Superior Lore-Friendly Hair - HD textures
+More Firewood per chop - 20 SE
-Run For Your Lives
-When Vampires Attack
+NPC Safety
+AmazingFollowerTweaks v166 by DheusterSE Final
+Settlements Expanded SE - No Snow Under the Roof Patch
+No Snow Under The Roof 3.2
+Footprints 1.5.3
+Better Dynamic Snow SMIM Version 2.4.1
+Immersive Patrols SE
+RiverwoodNavmesh
+Save The Dark Brotherhood SE
+Dark Brotherhood Resurrection SE
+Dark Brotherhood Reborn SE
+Agent of Righteous Might + Fixes - SE
+The Hanging Gardens - a Quest - SE
+Wheels of Lull Special Edition 3.1
+Undeath Immersive Lichdom SSE
+MAS - Undeath Compatibility Patch
+Skyrim - Undeath SSE 1.7
+The Forgotten City SE
+Moon and Star SE
+The Paarthurnax Dilemma
+Windstad Mine - Skyrim Special Edition
+Heljarchen Farm - SSE V1.471
+The Notice Board Redefined - New Meshes and Textures SE
+The Notice Board
+Cutting Room Floor
+BarenziahQuestMarkers SSE
+Diverse Dragons Collection SE
+Bandolier Bags and Pouches Classic SE
+Fortify Enchanting Spells - Potion Compatible SE
+Soulfire SemiFixed
+Visual Animated Enchants
+Summermyst
+Mana Bomb SE
+Slow and Freeze Time Spells
+Apocalypse
-50 arrows stay
-Arrows stay 5 minutes
-ABT SE - Arrows and Bolts Tweaks Special Edition
+Arrow and Bolt Tweaks
+Royal Armory V2.0
+Isilmeriel LOTR Weapons Collection SE
+Unique Uniques SE
+Lost LongSwords SE
+Unique Bows Collection SE
+Better Bows SE
+Scoped Bows SE 1.3
+Legendary Skyrim Crossbows SSE
+LeanWolf's Better-Shaped Weapons - All in One Installer
+Light Refracting Glass Armors and Weapons
+Refracting Stalhrim Armors and Weapons
+Blaze Of Eventide
+Disenchanting Power SE
+Armor Rating Revised
+Immersive Fallen Tree Bridges SE
+Legendary Player Home Map Markers
+Palaces and Castles Enhanced SSE Compatibility Patches
+Palaces and Castles Enhanced SSE
+Radun Castle v1.23 (Ultra SSE)
+Nightingale Hall Restored - Karliah as a Follower SE
+Solitude Expansion 2.061
+Books of Skyrim SE
+KF - Kato's Falkreath - V1.1
+JK's Riverwood V1.3c - SSE
+TAVE Riften SE
+EEK's Belethors General Goods Overhaul SSE
+BeautifulWhiterunSE
+Gildergreen Regrown
+Castle Volkihar Rebuilt
+Half Moon Mill SE
+Settlements Expanded SE
-Whistling Mine
-Soljund's Sinkhole
-Shor's Stone
-Kynesgrove
-Karthwasten
-Ivarstead
-Helarchen Creek
-Darkwater Crossing
+Settlement Enhancements
+My Home is Your Home
+Multiple Floors Sandboxing
+Proudspire Manor TNF
+HoneysideTNFGoatk
+Hjerim TNF SSE
+Eli's Breezehome Overhaul BETA 1.6
+MoreSoulGems SE
+Modern Brawl Bug Fix
+RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Special Edition - 2K Sorted
+EssentialMerchantsMod SE
+Unread Books Glow SSE 2.2.1 (Loose)
+Unlimited Bookshelves
+Training Dummies and Targets Falskaar Edition
+Follower Trap Safety
+Acquisitive Soul Gems Multithreaded
+Faster Mining
+VioLens - A Killmove Mod 1.11
+Quick Shot Rank 2
+ExtraPocketsPerkEnhancement SE
+Superior Extra Effect Perks - SEEPs SE
+Infinite Gold For Merchants
+RaceCompatibility with fixes for SSE
+True Snow Elf Race SE
+3DNPC v3.3.1 alpha SSE
+Improved Dragon Shouts 1.1 (ESM File)
+ApachiiSkyHairMale
+ApachiiSkyHairFemale
+ApachiiSkyHair v 1 6 Full
+The Grey Cowl of Nocturnal SE - HD Texture pack
+The Gray Cowl of Nocturnal
+Better Falskaar and Wyrmstooth Map With Roads SE
+Wyrmstooth Tweaks - Merged
+WyrmstoothSE
+Falskaar
+Vanilla Skyrim LOD Billboards
+Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch

 

 

You might realize that sometimes there are a few mods disabled above one with a more generic name, those are merges. But if you're unsure what is what, feel free to ask!

 

And my Loadorder:

 

loadorder.txt

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
Gray Fox Cowl.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
Improved Dragon Shouts - All.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
snowelf.esp
SoulGems.esp
EssentialMerchantsMod.esp
fastermining6-3.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp
AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
SEEPs.esp
ExtraPocketsPerkEnhancement.esp
QuickShotRank2.esp
Disenchanting.esp
Blaze Of Eventide.esp
Skysan_Stalhrim.esp
Skysan_GlassAW.esp
Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp
ScopedBows.esp
ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
Slow and Freeze Time Spells -TwinCrows.esp
ManaBomb.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
HBetterBows.esp
UniqueBows.esp
LostLongSwords.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
isilNarsil.esp
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
VisualAnimatedEnchants.esp
Fortify Enchanting Spells.esp
Soulfire.esp
ArmorRatingRevised.esp
DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
Eli_Breezehome.esp
hjerimtnf.esp
HSTNF.esp
ProudspiremanorTNF.esp
House Map Markers Legendary.esp
SettlementEnhancements.esp
Settlements Expanded SE.esp
Beautiful Whiterun.esp
RealisticWhiterun.esp
EEK's Belethors General Goods Overhaul SSE.esp
TAVERiften.esp
JK's Riverwood.esp
Kato's Falkreath.esp
BooksOfSkyrim.esp
ClefJ's Half Moon Mill.esp
Solitude Expansion.esp
Snowy AF Windhelm.esp
Nightingale Hall.esp
Motte & Bailey.esp
Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp
Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
PCE - USEEP+CRF Patch.esp
notice board.esp
WyrmstoothTweaks.esp
WindstadMine.esp
HeljarchenFarm.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
ForgottenCity.esp
Undeath.esp
MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp
Undeath Immersive Lichdom.esp
bhabhilon.esp
WheelsOfLull.esp
AgentOfRighteousMight.esp
AoRMFixes.esp
DarkbroSanctuary.esp
BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
Save the Dark Brotherhood!.esp
RiverwoodNavmesh.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
fallentreebridges.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
Training Dummies & Targets - Falskaar Edition.esp
ArrowsAndBolts.esp
3DNPC.esp
PCE - 3DNPC Patch.esp
Infinite Gold For Merchants.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
RunForYourLives_DragonVampire.esp
Shiva's Vanilla Hair Replacer.esp
BijinAIO_SSE-3.1.1-SV.esp
VioLens SE.esp
VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
PCE - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp
Move it Dammit - Less Wait Time.esp
DSHg - Circlets.esp
DSHg - DragonPriest Masks.esp
FNIS.esp
XPMSSE.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
Footprints.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
Settlements Expanded SE - No Snow Under the Roof Patch.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
Skyrim Better Roads - The Rift.esp
Skyrim Better Roads - Winterhold.esp
Skyrim Better Roads - EastMarch.esp
Settlements Expanded SE - Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges Patch.esp
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
Map Markers Complete.esp
CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
RWT Lod Fix.esp
RealisticWaterTwo+-+Verdant+Patch.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp
DesyncBirdsOfPrey.esp
SolitudeExterior.esp
WhiterunExterior.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
ELFX - NoHomes.esp
RAO - ELFX Patch.esp
Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp
Vivid WeathersSE.esp
Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp
DynDOLOD.esp
WaterPatch4.esp

 

 

 

Again: Please feel free to ask about specific mods and files if you don't know them. A bunch of them are merges or manually updated mods from Oldrim.

 

I hope someone can help me, I'm slowly getting annoyed by this...

 

Thanks for your help!

 

-Shad0w

[gavinjb]

I can't see anything obviously wrong with your Load Order/Mod List however a couple of questions

 

1. Have you cleaned your Master files and any Mods that need Cleaning (I know this made a big difference in Original and still make it a practice to do the same in SSE)

2. Have you looked at the error log to see if you are getting any errors when the game CTD's

 

If neither of these make any difference/help what I would do is make a clean vanilla save just after getting out of Helgen (there are vanilla saves on the Nexus to skip the Carriage ride if it helps) and then try going into the Barrows and if that is OK slowly add a few mods at a time until you find the cause, I know its a pain but sometimes the only way to identify the issue, however when you do this make sure you load a clean save after each set of mods you try.

 

Another thing to try is to go through all your mods and check the mod pages to see if there are any incompatibilities or load order changes you need to make and also see if there are any patches you need to install.

[Shad0wlife]

Thanks for answering!

I haven't cleaned my masters, guess I was too lazy. Just have xEdit clean them like usual? Apply filter and that stuff?

Also, I had another issue that my game crashed as soon as the character stand-up animation starts in Helgen (I think that's the moment). That one actually always happens at the exact same time (unlike the Bleak Falls crash). I just avoided that by loading an almost unmodded save after leaving the Helgen cave.

Funny thing about the helgen crash is: I went back to an exact setup that had worked before without crashing (fully disabling the mods in MO) and it started crashing anyways. I might have missed something, or my game is broken.

 

Ok, so as I understand it:

1. Clean masters

2. Check the mods one by one...