totalwarman Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Looks like most of people haven't any concern about money, the games are to expensive and the digital download don't brings nothing positive in this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubstepKid Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 40 bux on amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsonar Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I can see the argument for wanting a physical copy of a game back when you could then do what you wanted to with the game. But you have to have steam and the internet to even play the game anyway, so what's the point in a physical copy? The physical copy of the game is basically a digital copy since once you register it you never need the disc again and can d/l it to other computers through steam. I mean you just want the book that comes with it? I bought the disc and let me tell you, the book is useless. As for the price, I don't know why they wouldn't be the same. Someone said the extra cost to produce the physical product with case, dvd, book, and shipping is around $5.00... I think it's much much less than that for Bethesda. When they're buying millions of discs and cases and printing that many books... I bet it's around or under $1 per copy. I wouldn't have been surprised if they had tried to charge more for the digital copy because of "convenience." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsxMeUP Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Back in the day I remember paying $40 for Smurf: Rescue in Gargamel's Castle for the ColecoVision, one of the crappiest pieces of crap to ever crap the videogame industry... And that was $40 of 1980s money, which amounts to like over $95 today! The game essentially had 3 levels: forest, cave and black wall, and could be finished in about 90 seconds. You kids have it good. STFU!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmzPC-kLQec Edited February 10, 2012 by PsxMeUP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesapien Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Kinda like hard disk prices. The flooding problems in Asia that caused stock shortages, which caused higher HDD prices, are resolved and prices can do down, but they are keeping them high cause people are still buying despite the higher prices. Whatever you're thinking, that's not how price discovery is supposed to work. Instead, it's more along the lines of supply and demand curves. Price is not determined by just taking the costs and adding an arbitrary percentage for profit. In order to maximize profit, prices ought to be where supply and demand curves meet. What really happened was that the shortage revealed a higher demand than expected, thus the correct supply side response to raise prices. Notice they didn't raise them super high like say 10x because that would actually lessen profits because so many fewer people would buy. Similarly, lowering prices again would mean less profit and would also lead to another shortage. Edit/PS: My key point was the last one, that is; a return to the lower prices would cause another shortage and just doesn't make sense in a market/economy. Interesting point, I hadn’t thought of that. I always saw it as a self correcting system to be honest. Some products may climb the ladder in relative cost faster than others and of course there’s the ever present inflation factor but supply and demand is a pretty simple system when it comes to luxury or semi-luxury items. If it’s too high they won’t sell and they will have to bring the price down or down size and (as you pointed out) if it’s too low product will move too quickly to meet demand. Even when it comes down to digital downloads (while there isn’t any physical value) the product represents an investment in production. If the industry invests and designs games with 60 dollars as the norm… then that’s what they need to sell it at. I can understand maybe lowering the price with the (low) cost of dvds and packaging in mind but what the OP expects is pretty crazy imo. If he thinks $40 is a bad price for a new game… I don’t know man :unsure: Yeah, especially when considering that game prices have been going down over the years once you adjust for inflation. Your mentioning of games being digital, as compared to the above example of hard drives is related to what is called elasticity. In such situations, the price is more heavily determined by the demand and less by supply. The digital world of copyrights and patents is fun to think about... Like, if instead of pickpocketing an NPC, you merely scanned and copied what they had, then walked away without actually taking anything, are you stealing??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsxMeUP Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) I understand that prices of HDD went up cause of demand: people rushing to get drives before the shortage. But the shortage is over, and prices remain high. Keeping them high now has nothing to do with manufacturers not wanting another shortage due to demand increasing again if they bring prices back to normal. It has everything to do with, again, supply and demand. Manufacturers and retailers keep the same high price and demand isn't decreasing, so they will keep them high until they are pressured to lower. But people are sheep; they don't seem to care about the price hike, and they probably wouldn't care if prices returned to normal, so why lower them? Edited February 9, 2012 by PsxMeUP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemonbarber Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I understand that prices of HDD went up cause of demand: people rushing to get drives before the shortage. But the shortage is over, and prices remain high. Keeping them high now has nothing to do with manufacturers not wanting another shortage due to demand increasing again if they bring prices back to normal. It has everything to do with, again, supply and demand. Manufacturers and retailers keep the same high price and demand isn't decreasing, so they will keep them high until they are pressured to lower. But people are sheep; they don't seem to care about the price hike, and they probably wouldn't care if prices returned to normal, so why lower them? This is exactly how Gas prices work. "Some event" causes prices to go up.Suppliers raise their prices.Distributors raise their prices.Gas stations raise their prices."Some event" goes away and is no longer an impactSuppliers lower their price.Distributors lower their price, after some time.Gas stations keep their prices the same for longer. -- 2 reasons for this. They already bought the gas at the higher price-- This is where they make a profit on gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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