Is my load order ok?

[Majormonologue]

I currently have a not super good pc which can't run modded skyrim, soon though I am getting a new graphics card which should do the job. So I started creating the ultimate load order. I think everything is order but I would like as many things as possible ready for when I get a new graphics card.

 

Load order

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm

7 7 WM Flora Fixes.esp

8 8 Campfire.esm

9 9 ApachiiHair.esm

10 a RSkyrimChildren.esm

11 b WetandCold.esp

12 c Enhanced Landscapes.esp

13 d LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp

14 e CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

15 f RealisticWaterTwo.esp

16 10 AOS.esp

17 11 Differently Ebony.esp

18 12 EnchantedArsenal.esp

19 13 Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp

20 14 Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp

21 15 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

22 16 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

23 17 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp

24 18 3DNPC.esp

25 19 Enhanced Landscapes - Barren Marsh.esp

26 1a Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

27 1b Enhanced Landscapes - Grass.esp

28 1c OBIS.esp

29 1d AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

30 1e DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

31 1f Vivid Weathers.esp

32 20 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

33 21 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

34 22 Immersive Weapons.esp

35 23 DFB - Random Encounters.esp

36 24 Tamriel Reloaded Mountains.esp

37 25 BFT Ships and Carriages.esp

38 26 TheChoiceIsYours.esp

39 27 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

40 28 Inigo.esp

41 29 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

42 2a SkyUI.esp

43 2b Enhanced Landscapes - Patch.esp

44 2c Immersive Followers.esp

45 2d Frostfall.esp

46 2e CaranthirTowerReborn.esp

47 2f CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp

48 30 CACO_3DNPC.esp

49 31 Midas Magic Expanded.esp

50 32 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul Lite.esp

51 33 Its a Wild World.esp

52 34 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

53 35 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp

54 36 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

55 37 UltimateCombat.esp

56 38 CACO_Immersive Creatures Patch.esp

57 39 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp

58 3a RaceMenu.esp

59 3b RaceMenuPlugin.esp

60 3c dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

61 3d kuerteeSimpleMultipleFollowers.esp

62 3e TKDodge.esp

63 3f UltimateDragons.esp

64 40 VioLens.esp

65 41 WetandCold - Ashes.esp

66 42 Action Combat.esp

67 43 UIExtensions.esp

68 44 Brawl Bugs CE.esp

69 45 RealisticRoomRental-Basic.esp

70 46 DIVERSITY.esp

71 47 Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp

72 48 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp

73 49 Battlemage Armour.esp

74 4a Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

75 4b Traveller Shield.esp

76 4c Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp

77 4d EmbersHD.esp

78 4e iNeed.esp

79 4f Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

80 50 TradeBarter.esp

81 51 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp

82 52 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp

83 53 CACO-Ordinatored.esp

84 54 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp

85 55 Potions.esp

86 56 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp

87 57 AnonymousPeople.esp

88 58 SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp

89 59 FISS.esp

90 5a LessIntrusiveHUD.esp

91 5b AMatterOfTime.esp

92 5c Character Creation Overhaul.esp

93 5d CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp

94 5e CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp

95 5f CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp

96 60 Galanterie.esp

97 61 RSChildren - Complete.esp

98 62 AddItemMenu2.esp

99 63 iNeed_CACO - Patch.esp

100 64 AOS2_DSI Patch.esp

101 65 AOS2_EBT Patch.esp

102 66 AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp

Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp

103 67 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

104 68 FrostFall_CACO - Patch.esp

105 69 ColorfulLightsNoShadow_Complete.esp

106 6a Lock Overhaul.esp

107 6b OBISDB.esp

108 6c Realistic HD Beverages.esp

Skyrim HD Tribute - Roads.esp

109 6d HavenBag.esp

110 6e wizDynamicThings.esp

111 6f Backshields.esp

112 70 BDYEB.esp

113 71 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[Majormonologue]

The bashed patch isn't made yet, in case I get more mods, also if anyone has any recommendations for mods I am open for improvement

[metaforce]

After looking through your load order I would say its not a very good load order (for example mods that add/modify/remove any kind of NPCs are not in the same place)

So here is my advice.

 

1. Dont let LOOT sort your load order. It does fairly well with short load orders but yours is too long for that. Trust me...it creates more of a mess than it helps with long load orders...sort it by hand

 

2 As a guide you can use PcaPPs suggested load order. PcaPP load order

I realise you dont use PerMa (yet....you might give it a try) However the way PcaPP advises you to sort your load order is a very good way to handle it

 

3. Did you clean your masters/other mods using TES5Edit?

The masters are full of dirty edits and deleted references which can cause massive instabilities

[Majormonologue]

I have cleaned my masterfiles and have made a bunch of changes including switching to perma

[Majormonologue]

I'll post a re updated version of my load order as soon as I'm done running the patcher and everything is in order

[Majormonologue]

before I had not figured out how to run the patcher though I did have java but I figured it out

[Majormonologue]

I'm almost done with my load order, also I am curious about this http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/32339/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D32339%26preview%3D&pUp=1

[Majormonologue]

Here is my new load order

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Dawnguard.esm

3 3 HearthFires.esm

4 4 Dragonborn.esm

5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

6 6 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm

7 7 WM Flora Fixes.esp

8 8 Campfire.esm

9 9 RSkyrimChildren.esm

10 a ApachiiHair.esm

11 b Lootification.esm

12 c WetandCold.esp

13 d EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

14 e Enhanced Landscapes.esp

15 f ELFX - Exteriors.esp

16 10 ELFX - Hardcore.esp

17 11 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp

18 12 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

19 13 AOS.esp

20 14 Differently Ebony.esp

21 15 EnchantedArsenal.esp

22 16 Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp

23 17 Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp

24 18 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

25 19 3DNPC.esp

26 1a Enhanced Landscapes - Dead Marsh.esp

27 1b GenesisOfSolstheim.esp

28 1c Book Covers Skyrim.esp

29 1d SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp

30 1e RealisticWaterTwo.esp

31 1f Immersive Jewelry.esp

32 20 Rebirth Monster.esp

33 21 SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp

34 22 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

35 23 Enhanced Landscapes - Grass.esp

36 24 OBIS.esp

37 25 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

38 26 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

39 27 OBISDB.esp

40 28 OBIS Loot.esp

41 29 LC_BecomeLordOfUtgard.esp

42 2a Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

43 2b ELFX - Weathers.esp

44 2c Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

45 2d Immersive Weapons.esp

46 2e DFB - Random Encounters.esp

47 2f Tamriel Reloaded Mountains.esp

48 30 TW3Plate.esp

49 31 BFT Ships and Carriages.esp

50 32 TheChoiceIsYours.esp

51 33 SkyUI.esp

52 34 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

53 35 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp

54 36 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

55 37 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp

56 38 RaceMenu.esp

57 39 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

58 3a dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

59 3b kuerteeSimpleMultipleFollowers.esp

60 3c TKDodge.esp

61 3d UltimateDragons.esp

62 3e VioLens.esp

63 3f WetandCold - Ashes.esp

64 40 Action Combat.esp

65 41 UIExtensions.esp

66 42 Brawl Bugs CE.esp

67 43 RealisticRoomRental-Basic.esp

68 44 DIVERSITY.esp

69 45 DF127MerchantsofSkyrim.esp

70 46 BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp

71 47 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

72 48 Inigo.esp

73 49 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp

74 4a Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp

75 4b LC_immersiveLoot.esp

76 4c SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp

77 4d Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp

78 4e DivineCloaks.esp

79 4f Hunterborn.esp

80 50 Immersive Patrols II.esp

81 51 Immersive Horses.esp

82 52 Enhanced Landscapes - Patch.esp

83 53 Immersive Followers.esp

84 54 Frostfall.esp

85 55 Craftable Horse Barding.esp

86 56 Battlemage Armour.esp

87 57 Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp

88 58 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

89 59 Traveller Shield.esp

90 5a TradeBarter.esp

91 5b Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp

92 5c CaranthirTowerReborn.esp

93 5d Midas Magic Expanded.esp

94 5e Bandit Patrols.esp

95 5f DaedricCloaks.esp

96 60 CinematicFireFX.esp

97 61 More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp

98 62 Follower_Room_V2.esp

99 63 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul Lite.esp

100 64 CTR_Patch_EL+Inigo.esp

101 65 Its a Wild World.esp

102 66 Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp

103 67 Ghosu - Project Flintlock.esp

104 68 EmbersHD.esp

105 69 iNeed.esp

106 6a CTR_Patch_EnhancedLandscapes.esp

107 6b My Home Is Your Home.esp

108 6c Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

109 6d ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp

110 6e dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp

111 6f Potions.esp

112 70 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp

113 71 AnonymousPeople.esp

114 72 SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp

115 73 FISS.esp

116 74 LessIntrusiveHUD.esp

117 75 AMatterOfTime.esp

118 76 Galanterie.esp

119 77 RSChildren - Complete.esp

120 78 AddItemMenu2.esp

121 79 AOS2_DSI Patch.esp

122 7a AOS2_EBT Patch.esp

123 7b AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp

124 7c dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

125 7d Lock Overhaul.esp

126 7e Realistic HD Beverages.esp

127 7f Skyrim HD Tribute - Roads.esp

128 80 wizDynamicThings.esp

129 81 Backshields.esp

130 82 BDYEB.esp

131 83 Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp

132 84 zzzSXP.esp

133 85 SkyTweak.esp

134 86 Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

135 87 JaxonzNameGen.esp

136 88 Unique Uniques.esp

137 89 KS Hairdo's.esp

138 8a Ghosu - Project Flintlock - Ammo Addon.esp

139 8b Colorful_Magic.esp

140 8c Disparity.esp

141 8d cuteLydia.esp

142 8e Valerica.esp

143 8f CTR_Patch_UniqueUniques.esp

144 90 Rebirth Monster - OBIS Patch.esp

145 91 Rebirth Monster - USLEEP Patch.esp

146 92 Rebirth Monster - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp

147 93 Rebirth Monster - Midas Magic Evolved Patch.esp

148 94 Rebirth Monster - OBISDB Patch.esp

149 95 Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp

150 96 LostGrimoire.esp

151 97 more plants all extra.esp

152 98 planters.esp

153 99 GypsyEyesCaravan.V.2.esp

154 9a PerkusMaximus_Master.esp

155 9b HavenBag.esp

156 9c LootandDegradation.esp

157 9d AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp

158 9e AOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp

159 9f PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp

160 a0 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp

161 a1 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp

162 a2 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp

163 a3 UltimateCombat.esp

164 a4 WeightedBreakdown.esp

165 a5 Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp

166 a6 Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp

167 a7 AOS2_ELFX-Weathers Patch.esp

168 a8 PumpingIron.esp

169 a9 Moss Rocks - Legendary.esp

170 aa PerMa Mage Defluffed.esp

171 ab PerMa Thief Defluffed.esp

172 ac PerMa Warrior Defluffed.esp

173 ad PerMa Apocalypse + Defluff.esp

174 ae STEP Combined PluginHF.esp

175 af Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

176 b0 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp

177 b1 Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 1.esp

178 b2 warburg's 3d paper world map - dawnguard.esp

179 b3 Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Dragonborn.esp

180 b4 ASIS-Dependency.esp

181 b5 PatchusMaximus.esp

182 b6 ASIS.esp

[metaforce]

Sorry to say mate, but your load order is still very messed up.

 

This is one of my load orders

 

https://modwat.ch/u/metaforce

 

Try to arrange your mods in a similar way. PerMa files need to be together and far more towards the top. Try to keep mod "effects" in one place and together (e.g. everything that adds/modifies NPCs like followers and the like), anything that modifies landscape together and so on. In addition, since you decided to install PerMa, you need the respective PcaPP patches.

 

Mods like Valerica, Inigo, 3NPC and the like need to be together, not as far apart as they are at the moment, also you distributed landscaping mods too far apart, stuff like AddItemMenu should be closer to the end and so on. I dont know all your mods so I can't be specific about all of them.....Go through the list I added before....If a mod serves more than one purpose (landscaping which also adds NPCs for example) then put it at the higher place not further down

 

In addition you might add the MCM Mod to Inigo http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/70035/?

[Majormonologue]

pk, I'm working on it