maxxbrown Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Steam sucks and in the end we will pay for it.I've been on Steam since it was first created, and I gotta say it has brought the PC gaming community together in a way nothing else could. It is the largest online PC game store around and you can't not love all the sales there are. You could hate it for issues it has had in the past, but what (no matter what it is) doesn't have issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValtielCurse Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Steam sucks and in the end we will pay for it.I've been on Steam since it was first created, and I gotta say it has brought the PC gaming community together in a way nothing else could. It is the largest online PC game store around and you can't not love all the sales there are. You could hate it for issues it has had in the past, but what (no matter what it is) doesn't have issues?I think he was referring to steam workshop, not steam in general...in that case, he's right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxbrown Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Well in that case, I do agree that the whole "Subscribe" thing is stupid. But you'll never have to pay for Workshop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttown Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I don't like not having a choice. Either have steam or don't play the game. Also my favorite game series Total War was ruined by steam. There is no modability anymore for TotalWar not like it used to be. And I feel it was likely done to increase the sales of dlc. And I don't like that I have to be online and tracked and that they have my personal information just so I can play a game. Steam is turning pc gamers into console gamers one by one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rindrake Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 i like the fact that you can click one button and never have to worrie about updates. with the nmm i have to keep checking all these flags cause the modders cant keep there versions straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leyasu Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I like the workshop in that it automatically updates the mods you subscribe to, Sometimes I don't check for updates on my mods for quite a while, the auto update from the workshop is a godsend for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justwannaddl Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) Once all the steam noobs find the Nexus and see all the TNA and Wangs they will be hooked. Unless they start paying the mod authors....still I feel the Nexus will win out in the long run. Why go to steam when you van get everything here nipples and everything. TNA is important. Agreed. A good chunk of people started modding games did so just for a cheap thrill at first. I'm definitely guilty of that more than 255 times over. Hitting the mod cap several times in Oblivion was quite a surprise. It is tough to fathom how they would handle paying modders though I can imagine Beth or some freelance company doing some DLCs. It wouldn't surprise me if a good chunk of virgin modders would go to steam first and never move on. It wouldn't surprise me if people would be too lazy to do a search for multiple sites. Though some will inevitably trickle down to Nexus, most will probably just rot in the SW. Then again, it means there's less morons to cause a stink when big complex mods with multiple requirements come flooding in. @leyasu: I never cared for autoupdates myself. I always worry that the update would cause a conflict. Edited February 11, 2012 by justwannaddl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxbrown Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 I don't like not having a choice. Either have steam or don't play the game. Also my favorite game series Total War was ruined by steam. There is no modability anymore for TotalWar not like it used to be. And I feel it was likely done to increase the sales of dlc. And I don't like that I have to be online and tracked and that they have my personal information just so I can play a game. Steam is turning pc gamers into console gamers one by one.I completely see where you're coming from, but at the other end of the spectrum, I like the fact that all my games are in one place, and I can access them anywhere there's a computer. As well as automatic updating. I will say that it's annoying that you can't play your games if you don't have an internet connection, but it's all about perspective. My computer is never not connected to the internet, so I never have a problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapless Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 This sucks, I just formatted my computer today and the first thing I installed was Skyrim and NMM. :sad: Also, just curious, why all the hate towards Steam Workshop? I mean, I know not having a search function the first few days was horrible but that's fixed. I've been on Nexus since I found it (right after I picked up my copy of Skyrim). I decided to try out the Steam workshop, and aside from the search function, it has a lot of other issues as well. 1. When you 'unsubscribe' to a file it does not remove the information that you once were subscribed to it. Unfortunately what that means is that if you DO decide (like I did) to go back to a Nexus version of the mod, the launcher handles it poorly.2. You MUST use the launcher to update your subscribed mods. This is a pain for those of us who run SKSE.3. The interface is NOT user friendly. Some functions are hard to find, and far too many clicks to get from point A to point B. Why is there no link up at the top of Steam, right next to 'Community', for 'Workshop'? Pretty big oversight IMO.4. The interface is NOT setup to function well in multiple resolutions. By building it with a 3 mod width-wise max, they've constructed it for the lowest common denominator. I have a lot of screen real estate (dual 29" flatscreens), I'd like to use it. And speaking of real estate, I want it to remember that I like it to show me 30 at a time. It can remember my login, it should be able to remember that.5. A popup with a 1-2 sentence description for each mod when you mouse over it would be extremely helpful - titles don't always give enough info, a popup would solve that without requiring me to click on each one.6. And last, but definitely not least...sometimes I don't WANT to upgrade a mod? At least not automatically - not until I've read the read me/notes and seen if this latest update is going to, for example, cause me to lose all my stored belongings (ala housing add-on mods). - With NMM I can quickly and easily scroll through my mods (about 2 seconds), see if any have yellow exclamation points, and if so, click the link which brings me directly to the page for the mod. There, I can read not only the read mes/notes, but I can also read the comments and see what other users are saying about the update. - With Steam, first I have to make my way to the Workshop. then click 'Your Workshop Files', then 'Subscribed Items' (wait...bear with me, still not there yet), then INDIVIDUALLY click each mod to read the comments (wait, it gets better), but what, you say? No Read Mes or developer Notes? What is this? You mean I have to actually let Steam download and update and hope there is a developer note stuck in my Data folder afterward? Sigh. I'm sure there's more, but I'm tired and that's all I can think of right now. Nexus just needs more bandwidth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttown Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Yeah installing mods myself and checking for updates is really difficult. I would always be like ( God. Can you hear me? All I ever wanted was to click on the pictures and have my mod do stuff) And now steam is here! Thank you GOD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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