Crash only near windhelm, don't know why please help. [ Mod list inside ]

[nutnarukex]

this give me headache for 6 hours now
I installed around 90 mods with mainly focus on immersive, utility and perkus maximus.
My computer is pretty fine can play witcher 3 with high performance.


The thing is everything is perfectly fine until i reach windhelm or surrounding area like stable and the watchtower
[ by foot or fast travel] , walk around, fighting, cast a spell, be in the city, for a few minutes or just a minute and the game crash
this always happened outside building, but definitely in the area of windhelm or in the windhelm itself.

at first i thought it was a snow or related weather mod or wet and cold mod.. it wasn't. i wait till the sky is clear and bright, still crash
others area with snow work just fine. so i don't know what cause it.
I tried to remove wet and cold and restart again, still crash.

I don't know what to do, i really hate reinstall the game and all the mod from the beginning

Here is my list

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 ApachiiHair.esm
7 7 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
9 9 WM Flora Fixes.esp
10 a HighResTexturePack01.esp
11 b HighResTexturePack02.esp
12 c HighResTexturePack03.esp
13 d Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
14 e RaceMenu.esp
15 f RaceMenuPlugin.esp
16 10 SkyUI.esp
17 11 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
18 12 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
19 13 3DNPC.esp
20 14 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
21 15 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
22 16 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
23 17 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
24 18 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
25 19 Rebirth Monster.esp
26 1a AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
27 1b Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp
28 1c SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
29 1d RealisticWaterTwo.esp
30 1e Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
31 1f Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp
32 20 SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp
33 21 OBIS.esp
34 22 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
35 23 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
36 24 SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
37 25 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
38 26 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
39 27 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
40 28 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
41 29 Inconsequential NPCs.esp
42 2a RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
43 2b Cloaks.esp
44 2c SMIM-Merged-All.esp
45 2d SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
46 2e Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
47 2f Immersive Weapons.esp
48 30 SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
49 31 Rebirth Monster - OBIS Patch.esp
50 32 Rebirth Monster - USLEEP Patch.esp
51 33 OBISDB.esp
52 34 1nivWICCloaks.esp
53 35 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
54 36 Dr_Bandolier.esp
55 37 DeadlyDragons.esp
56 38 SFO - Dragonborn.esp
57 39 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
58 3a WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
59 3b Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp
60 3c aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
61 3d ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
62 3e ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
63 3f Immersive Patrols II.esp
64 40 SofiaFollower.esp
65 41 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
66 42 SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
67 43 SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
68 44 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
69 45 SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
70 46 iNeed.esp
71 47 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
72 48 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
73 49 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
74 4a VVE.esp
75 4b Rebirth Monster - Clothing & Clutter Fixes Patch.esp
76 4c Rebirth Monster - WAFR Patch.esp
77 4d PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp
78 4e Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp
79 4f Animallica.esp
80 50 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
81 51 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
82 52 Rebirth Monster - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
83 53 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
84 54 Rebirth Monster - OBISDB Patch.esp
85 55 Skytest Animallica.esp
86 56 ogSplendorDragons.esp
87 57 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
88 58 Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp
89 59 Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp
90 5a Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
91 5b Bashed Patch, 0.esp
92 5c ASIS-Dependency.esp

 

I use wrym batch and Loot for mod order, like i said everything was fine except the part where i walk around windhelm
Is there any conflict i don't know about?
or better, if the problem can't be solve, can anyone post a mod list that was compatible and similar to my list and preference,


Thank you so much
Thank you for helping fellow gamer

[gromulos]

When you run WRYE bash are there any orange or red mods in your load order?

[nutnarukex]

When you run WRYE bash are there any orange or red mods in your load order?

Some orange, SkyTEST, enchantlighting and FX, Perma master, Warrior and Mage, Per perma patch, Immersive Patron, Perma combat plus, Animalica, Splendor Dragon, Fantasy sound project.

 

No red mod.

 

I think it's normal or should they all be white?

[gromulos]

let me show you something

 

 

B) Orange means that some ESP has requested its master files in an order that is different to the the order that you currently have them in. Orange mods are arguably more dangerous, because you won't necessarily get an immediate CTD every time, so you may be lulled into a false sense of security, whereas in reality you have an unstable load order.

 

 

i think it would be in your best interest to do ALL of steps 2 & 3 from my guide, specifically APPENDIX 1 for the orange mods, but only after you follow and do ALL of STEP 2

 

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2235394-beginners-guide-to-modding/

Edited May 10, 2017 by gromulos

[nutnarukex]

let me show you something

 

 

B) Orange means that some ESP has requested its master files in an order that is different to the the order that you currently have them in. Orange mods are arguably more dangerous, because you won't necessarily get an immediate CTD every time, so you may be lulled into a false sense of security, whereas in reality you have an unstable load order.

 

 

i think it would be in your best interest to do ALL of steps 2 & 3 from my guide, specifically APPENDIX 1 for the orange mods, but only after you follow and do ALL of STEP 2

 

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2235394-beginners-guide-to-modding/

Thank you, i'll try that and report as soon as i can.

 

[nutnarukex]

 

let me show you something

 

 

B) Orange means that some ESP has requested its master files in an order that is different to the the order that you currently have them in. Orange mods are arguably more dangerous, because you won't necessarily get an immediate CTD every time, so you may be lulled into a false sense of security, whereas in reality you have an unstable load order.

 

 

i think it would be in your best interest to do ALL of steps 2 & 3 from my guide, specifically APPENDIX 1 for the orange mods, but only after you follow and do ALL of STEP 2

 

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2235394-beginners-guide-to-modding/

Thank you, i'll try that and report as soon as i can.

 

 

 

After checking with Wrye

all orange file seem to had odd problem, they require me to switch position of Dragonborn, Dawnguard, Hearthfire consecutively.

One mod want Dragonborn to be at Position 2

One mod want Dragonborn to be at Postion 3 or 4!

 

it's a dead end for me and most of them turn "orange" because of the original master file not others mod.

 

any idea?

 

Thank and regard.

[gromulos]

that's exactly what APPENDIX 1 will fix, do NOT switch the DLC's around, instead fix the mods that require them to be moved around in Xedit

 

A mod with a bad load order requirement like what you have is caused directly by the mod author not having his vanilla game files sorted properly. When the vanilla files are in the correct order, the mod does not need fixing afterwards by the user.