chocolambot Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Most people consider lore to be "Aesthetically" accurate for the world. But due to the subjective nature of the content, we can't exactly separate mods, except for the "Anime" and third-party content. Overall, the very reason this argument exists is because people have various tastes, which is the same reason modding is popular. By creating arbitrary categories, you are working AGAINST the purpose of modding. Yes its a little inconvenient to have to sift through a few extra mods, but I think its worth it. The mark of a good website is to allow its users to browse comfortably while customizing their experience to fit their needs in an easy manner. I think an exclusion option for pink hair, modern dance moves, movie props and creepy anime mods only adds to that, rather then takes it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsYchotic666Joker Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Nude mods in the non-lore section? please you must be kidding that is lore to me! So if i take my clothing off and sit in my chair playing skyrim or walking around the house that is considered fiction? i'm half tempted to walk up to somebody naked and ask them LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorwynKelm Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 You've already got one topic locked tonight, are you going for two? I wasn't addressing you or your comments. And I didn't "get" anything locked unless you mean that butthurt kid and his silly pokemon thread - or whatever the hell it was. Whatever. Good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handofbane Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Nude mods in the non-lore section? please you must be kidding that is lore to me! So if i take my clothing off and sit in my chair playing skyrim or walking around the house that is considered fiction? i'm half tempted to walk up to somebody naked and ask them LOL.While a little over the top in your example, you do have a point. One only needs to look at The Real Barenziah to see that nudity/sex could well be considered lore-friendly (while Part 2 was censored from Morrowind onward, it was uncensored and fairly graphic in Daggerfall). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syco21 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 How is nudity not lore friendly? There was a strip club and brothel in Morrowind. Yes yes, I know. That was Morrowind and this is Skyrim, but the dark elves fled to Skyrim and the brothel was in an imperial city. My point here is just what everyone else is saying, lire friendly is highly subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdustin Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) While I sympathize with all the users who are frustrated and upset because they have to spend a few minutes searching through mods to find one that meets their idea of lore or non-lore, the idea of separating lore and non-lore mods raises at least one question. Who decides? If I make a mod and mark it as "lore" and someone else thinks it isn't lore based (or I mark it as non-lore and someone thinks it is lore based - the non-lore based group has the same right to complain if they don't think my mod is sufficiently non-lore based) - then what? How is it determined if a mod is lore or non-lore? A vote system? Moderators choice? Knife fight in Dark0ne's back yard (video posted to the Nexus)? What if I don't tag the mod as "lore" or "non-lore". Is there a third category available? Will there be a category for a mod that has, for example, lore based armor, but a non-lore based weapon (how overzealous must the tweak be?)? Will the category for a mod with non-lore based armor but a lore based weapon be the same category as above or a different one? My lore is not your lore, your lore is not my lore, no one's lore is anyone else's lore. Trying to categorize mods to meet some vague idea of lore or non-lore is impossible and I doubt the owner or moderators are willing to step into such folly. Please, try not to beat around the bush in attempt to inject the wrong idea of this petition, friend. It's quite obvious that any modder should take responsibility in tagging their material correctly. But I will answer your example since you decided to question without actually think about how simple the answer would be. Any weapon/armor mod, or tweak given to weapons and armor already in skyrim, that are either made based off other games outside the ES games, or increasing armor rating value to an obsurd and godly number, to increasing the damage of a weapons beyond it's original value, and to add enchants that make a weapon or armor seem like It has been made from the power of something higher then a devine, would indeed make any material NON-LORE. To re-create a weapon or armor from prior ES games, only not to give them their original stats, makes it non-lore. But, to re-create weapons and armor, based off any prior ES games, and give it's original stats (the exact replica) plus allowing it to be upgradeable due to Skyrim's new smithing feature, makes it Lore friendly. Your lore, my lore, or anyones lore, that is not the games lore, is exactly what it is -- not the games lore. The idea to make searching easier on people to find what they want in a website doesn't make it folly. The idea can only be as folly as the people who speak out before they think about what they're saying. Who 'defines' lore? You..? Lore is whatever I want it to be. Sure -- But it unfortunately isn't the ES Lore. Quite a close-minded remark, no offense. The mark of a good website is to allow its users to browse comfortably while customizing their experience to fit their needs in an easy manner. I think an exclusion option for pink hair, modern dance moves, movie props and creepy anime mods only adds to that, rather then takes it away. The following petition is the idea to finding what you want by narrowing down the type by choice, just like the filters. The only difference is that it would start with Lore and Non-Lore as the two catagories, and within them, the subcatagories would be found (Filters then would behave more appropriately) The purpose of this petition is not to segregate the community into a permanent choice. If you choose lore related work, that does not lock the non-lore related work away from you. Nude mods in the non-lore section? please you must be kidding that is lore to me! So if i take my clothing off and sit in my chair playing skyrim or walking around the house that is considered fiction? i'm half tempted to walk up to somebody naked and ask them LOL. True. But, not entirely. I personally don't see an issue with Nudity in the ES series. It's more of how it's used in the ES series that would make it more non-lore. For instance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brfkpt_d2o8 And any of the links to the side of that video, I would consider that non-lore. ----- Thanks everyone for the feedback. I expect more. Edited February 13, 2012 by robdustin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai88 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Far too subjective a topic to ever work. Also a waste of time IMO but the previous reason is simple fact. The nexus servers are already so overloaded that nexus crawls and has page errors and dead connections during primetime, do we want to further overload the server, not to mention start even more flame wars in mod comments, with something subjective like this? Scroll through mods, tab click ones that look interesting, only dl what you like. Very simple... A quick note to the above poster, so an actual cat race (khajit) are ok as far as lore goes, but some nekomimi (cat cosplay, like the ears on the hair) is not? This is why this lore category is completely unfeasible. Modding are about creativity and freedom, not pigeonholing and restriction. Edited February 13, 2012 by Malakai88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azaltan Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Hmm.. face of an 10 year old child combined with a pornstar body/outfit and you want people to respect this crap? Nudity is one thing perversion is another.Besides, yes your ''nekomimi'' does't fit the lore at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyMilla Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 'Thanks to' some of the recent posts, this thread is going downhill rapidly.I'm locking it now before it sinks too deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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