a lot of CTDs lately, unknown cause

[blackhand8657]

Been having alot of CTDs lately. like today, kept crashing every time I got near the random encounter near The Slog. Recently installed Deadlier Deathclaws prior to that, then disabled it and stopped crashing there. However I went into Saugus Ironworks and it kept crashing after a few seconds of entering the cell. Then just a few minutes ago, Sunshine Tidings was under attack, dealt with the attackers and it crashed again. I cannot figure out the reason behind this. I'm really hoping its not NAC or True Grass, I really like these mods and dont wanna give em up. My load order is below, if anyone can take a look and see a problem, that'd be great. Note: Any mod with 'X' in the beginning are my own personal mods, usually simple stuff though

 

GameMode=Fallout4

Fallout4.esm=1
DLCworkshop01.esm=1
DLCCoast.esm=1
DLCworkshop02.esm=1
DLCworkshop03.esm=1
DLCNukaWorld.esm=1
Snap'n Build.esm=1
SettlementKeywords.esm=1
Homemaker.esm=1
ArmorKeywords.esm=1
NAC.esm=1
AWKCR - Contraptions.esp=1
AWKCR - Far Harbor.esp=1
AWKCR - Nuka World.esp=1
AWKCR - Vault-Tec.esp=1
Homemaker - Greenhouse and Bunker Disabler SKE.esp=1
Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects SKE.esp=1
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power SKE.esp=1
XHomemakerLightsNoShadow.esp=1
CleanSettlement Snap'n Build.esp=1
CBBE.esp=1
BetterSettlers.esp=1
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp=1
BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp=1
SettlersRename.esp=1
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1
BetterGenerators.esp=1
Armorsmith Extended.esp=1
D.E.C.A.Y.esp=1
MoreShipments_10.esp=0
Crafting Workbench.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Far Harbor DLC.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Nuka World DLC.esp=1
LegendaryRarity7.esp=1
LegendaryAllDifficulties3x.esp=1
LegendaryModification.esp=1
Eli_ArmourCollection.esp=1
Eli_Accessories.esp=1
Eli_RuggedOutfits.esp=1
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp=1
ImmersiveScrapping.esp=1
Move that Workbench!.esp=1
All Military Skin pack.esp=1
X01 Hexoflage.esp=0
Scouter_V1.1_by_Ruddy88.esp=1
Scouter_AWKCR.esp=1
DiamondCitySWAT.esp=1
Lots More Facial Hair.esp=1
no_level_reqs.esp=0
BasementLiving.esp=1
Moref*#@inMeat.esp=1
MoreMeat - DLC Addon.esp=1
CleanSettlement.esp=1
CleanSettlement Beds.esp=1
Clean Wasteland Workshop.esp=1
Lasers Have No Recoil.esp=1
LasersNoRecoil - Beam Splitters Patch.esp=1
PortableContainer.esp=1
PortableRecycler.esp=1
Expanded Railway Rifle Mods.esp=1
DesertDDCap.esp=1
CROSS_Jetpack.esp=1
MoreOrLessXP.esp=1
MoreOrLessXP-Crafting.esp=0
MoreOrLessXP-Misc.esp=0
MoreOrLessXP-Kills.esp=0
BetterShackBridges.esp=1
This is MY Bed (Extended).esp=1
BetterStores.esp=1
GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp=1
NoLocalLeader.esp=1
Cryolator.esp=1
P99.esp=1
Laser Musket Mods.esp=1
OTs-02 Kiparis.esp=1
Yona_Weapon_DefenseGun.esp=0
P220.esp=0
DOOMMerged.esp=1
SkibsWeapons-REDUX.esp=1
mjp_PTRS41ATR.esp=0
SCAR-L.esp=1
M2045MagnumRevolverRifle.esp=1
RightHandedHuntingRifle.esp=1
VarmintRifle.esp=1
VarmintRifle - AWKCR.esp=1
9x39Project.esp=1
9x39ProjectAWKCR.esp=1
AK74M.esp=1
AK74M_AWKCR.esp=1
RU556.esp=1
GS Benelli M3S90.esp=1
GatlingRifle.esp=0
GatlingRifle-NoIdiotSavant.esp=0
ChinaLakeandHolorifle.esp=1
HuntingShotgun.esp=1
P90.esp=1
P90NPC.esp=1
SigSauer127.esp=1
Quad_RAWLauncher.esp=1
AlienBlasterZetanOverhaul.esp=1
AK74_FO4.esp=1
ColtM1911.esp=1
DPAssaultCarbine.esp=0
DPAssaultCarbineNukaWorld.esp=0
MoritasBattleRifle.esp=0
Morita_Battle_Rifle_Animations.esp=0
Boulder.esp=0
Makeshift-Anti Materiel Rifle.esp=1
Skibs-Miniguns.esp=1
RemoteExplosives.esp=1
Gauss Full Less.esp=1
MiniGen power.esp=1
BetterInstituteDamage.esp=0
RangerSequoia.esp=1
Craftable Armor Size.esp=1
Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp=1
MoreCages.esp=1
RealisticConstructionRecipes-Turrets.esp=1
XMoreLegendaryApparel.esp=1
SmallerPowerConduitsMS3.esp=1
RealTroughs.esp=1
DogBed.esp=1
Friffy_Fixed Rugs.esp=1
CHKFlora.esp=1
cartman1975_warehouse.esp=1
ImpactBaseballGrenades.esp=1
IncreasedSettlerPopulation50.esp=1
Perk Magazine Material Fix.esp=1
Fortune Finder Redone.esp=1
Hoodless Scribe Hat.esp=1
Recruitable NPC Dialogue Fixes.esp=1
XCraftingRecipes.esp=1
XWildConversions.esp=1
XFlamerNozzles.esp=1
el_AgentOutfit.esp=0
N7-Armor-Standalone_by_Ruddy88.esp=1
DanLi_VaultExplorer.esp=0
Spiffy's Assorted Beanies.esp=1
Faction Field Outfits.esp=1
Balaclava.esp=1
Ballistic Marine Wetsuit v1.2.1.esp=1
Heavy BoS.esp=1
TNR Shoulder Lamp.esp=1
TNR Shoulder Lamp - Alternate Slot.esp=1
LooksMirror.esp=0
CombatArmor_BattleRetex_by_Ruddy88.esp=0
NanoArmor.esp=1
NanoArmor_AWKCR_AE.esp=1
MirandaOutfit.esp=1
NanoSuit.esp=0
NanoSuit_AWKCR_AE.esp=0
combat_PA.esp=1
combat_PA - AWKCR.esp=1
Combat_PA_BattleArmor_by_Ruddy88.esp=1
Targeting HUD Enhanced.esp=1
BOS Uniform Aesthetics.esp=1
XBetterChameleonLegEffect.esp=0
ExoticWorkshopCreatures.esp=0
Weapon Rack Extended.esp=1
Weapon Brackets.esp=0
DBZ Pictures.esp=1
NO NPC GREETINGS.esp=1
ManufacturingExtended.esp=1
CompactCrafting.esp=1
NoRailRoadBallisticWeave.esp=1
TurretStands.esp=0
CapStorage.esp=1
Siles - ModernMagazineShelf - transparent.esp=1
ZerasPaintings.esp=0
DD_AIO Test Mark 1.esp=0
Northland Diggers New.esp=1
CWSS Redux.esp=1
Wasteland Workshop Streetlights.esp=1
ConstructionLight_Brighter_Shadows_Wireless.esp=1
exotic_lights.esp=0
Better High Tech Lights.esp=1
VerticalConduits.esp=0
Invisible_Guard_Marker-SKE.esp=1
JCWBuilder.esp=1
AdvBubbleTurretSet-Real.esp=1
AdvBubbleTurretSet-Real-SKPatch.esp=1
Guard Chair - D3.esp=1
Guard Chair - D6.esp=1
GunPosters.esp=0
dinoshelf.esp=1
dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp=1
dinoshelf_retex.esp=1
AES_Renovated Furniture.esp=1
aes_rendeco.esp=1
Fusebox Generator - Less Power, More Resources.esp=1
Scavenging Station Plus - C.esp=1
Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp=0
WhirligigSentry.esp=1
SR_Settlement_Signs.esp=1
workShopDashButton.esp=1
SafeTrunkContentsReworked.esp=1
SettleObjExpandPack.esp=1
SettleObjExpandPack-LightShadowDisabler.esp=1
NukaVimRack.esp=1
SanctuaryParts.esp=1
UncappedSettlementSurplus.esp=1
VendorCaps_10k.esp=1
TraderShipments 2.esp=1
SettlementGarageSale.esp=1
SettlementTeleporters.esp=0
MYLadyKillerBed.esp=1
N7 Advanced.esp=1
MGSOutfit.esp=0
tcu2.esp=1
Rangergearnew.esp=1
CombatVests.esp=1
MillersBeret_noAEC.esp=0
Yet Another Piper.2F1E.esp=1
Scarlet_to_Cait.esp=1
Bunker1A.esp=0
Eli_Display Shelves.esp=1
ScrapGrinder.esp=0
GN_Home.esp=0
SpotlightFix-250-Shadow.esp=1
Nuka-Cola Flavors for the Commonwealth.esp=1
FallComplete.esp=1
IMG_Castle_Wall_Patches.esp=1
Rebuilt_CroupManor.esp=1
Rebuilt_SpectacleIsland.esp=1
Rebuilt_TaffingtonBoathouse.esp=1
Rebuilt_JamaicaPlain.esp=1
Rebuilt_HomePlate.esp=1
Taxidermy_Expanded.esp=1
FarHarborDecor.esp=0
XNoGaussRifleExplo.esp=1
PackBrahminsToEyebots_Settlements.esp=1
ImprovedNuke.esp=1
SurvivalOptions.esp=0
XDelivererVault111.esp=0
ImmersiveLoversEmbrace.esp=1
Great Actors - NPCs.esp=1
Great Actors - Danse Alt.esp=1
Great Actors - Deacon.esp=1
Great Actors - MacCready.esp=1
Great Actors - X6-88.esp=1
Great Actors - Curie.esp=1
Glowing Animals Emit Light.esp=1
Cute Rylee.esp=1
DeadlierDeathclaws.esp=0
Kasumi vanilla.esp=1
P.G.Overhaul.esp=1
Cute Magnolia Vanilla.esp=1
BobrovsAsBellics.esp=1
More Realistic Cats.esp=1
Sanctuary Cleaner Roads.esp=1
Reload Sounds.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC03-DLC04-VIS.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-NoDLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp=1
VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp=1
NoCameraFilters.esp=1
Modern Firearms.esp=0
WorkshopCategoriesFixer.esp=0
TrueGrass.esp=1
Quieter Settlements - Vanilla.esp=1
Quieter Settlements - Wasteland Workshop.esp=1
Quieter Settlements - Contraptions.esp=1
Clean Water - Tropical.esp=1
NAC-NukaWorld.esp=1
NAC-FarHarbor.esp=1
Scrap Everything - Core.esp=1
Scrap Everything - Far Harbor.esp=1
Scrap Everything - Nuka World.esp=1

[shaggy08251993]

People shouldn't have problems with their load orders because NMM will automatically rearrange it for you. But I would place money on it being a specific mod. I used to have Gas Masks of The Wasteland but had to get rid of it because it would crash my game every time in a very pinpoint spot walking from a very specific direction. Weird as hell, but when I got rid of the mod, it stopped the crashing.

Typical troubleshooting would be to disable half of your mods and run the game. If the game runs fine, then you know the problem mod is in the half you disabled. Keep breaking it down by halves until you isolate the problem child.

[H4RDC0R3V1B3Z]

Problem is, that you're using mods. There is a fine line between wanting more content and at the same time, stability (the most important, in my eyes).

 

What mods could you live without and haven't even used yet? I bet there are some you will never use in the entire playthrough. I recently cleaned my list up and got rid of 50 mods that I hadn't even used in a month.

Have you considered merging some of them to free up plugin space? Generally, the more plugins you have, the less stable the game will be. There are guides on this somewhere. Google is your friend.

Load order is all well and good but what specs do you have and what settings are you playing on? It might not even be a mod issue. The vanilla game isn't very stable at all and will crash at any point. It might be lighting, or shadows, or godrays or... you get the idea. Try tweaking your settings a little.

 

Crashes can happen anywhere and at any time, for any reason. You just have to go through the process of elimination to find the cause. There is no quick-fix or quick answers with this sort of thing, I'm afraid. I, myself, spent over two weeks messing around with mods, load order, settings on both my card and .ini files to get a game working properly. And it still crashes sometimes. You might just have to put up with the odd crash.

 

Little word of advice too: Wrap your load order in a

Spoiler tag by adding [ spoiler ] and [ /spoiler ] without spaces to the beginning and end of your text, respectively

 

Edited May 15, 2017 by H4RDC0R3V1B3Z

[blackhand8657]

thanks for the replies. I have disabled a few. i think one of my problems was too many weapon mods with the LVL List injector quests, my most recent being DeadPoll2099's Assault Carbine. Great mod, wish I didnt have to disable it but the CTDs did stop after disabling it. after that, went through my mods and disabled ones I didnt need. Thankfully, with my experiences from FO3/FNV I got into the habit of saving every few minutes because of the occasional oddball crash.

[H4RDC0R3V1B3Z]

Glad it's working again!

 

Can be a pain trying to balance mods. And still tempted to add more. It's a drug.

 

It might have conflicted with another weapon, there is no sure-fire way of knowing unless you go through every single mod one-at-a-time which is far too bloody time-consuming. Best to remember which you added recently and remove them when problems occur. Had a few like that over the past month. Perfectly fine with nearly 200 (relatively heavy) mods running, add one then it all goes to Hell.

 

Fun and games! :sweat:

Edited May 16, 2017 by H4RDC0R3V1B3Z

[blackhand8657]

yea, with the Assault Carbine mod, I used FO4Edit to remove the Injector quest and just made it AWKCR compatible instead so I could still enjoy the weapon without the problem, but I built the gun, went to equip in the pipboy then my game CTDs the second my pointer went over the weapon. same thing when I tried to mod it at a workbench. not sure where it went wrong but I kinda just gave it up for now

[Zzyxzz]

You probably already corrupted your save with disabling mods. Start a new game and see if all issues persist