BrettM Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Greetings. I'm new to the forums and to Elder Scrolls, Skyrim being my first. I picked it up a couple of weeks ago and have found it totally addictive despite certain irritations that would have me throw any other game against the wall. (Okay, I downloaded it from Steam so I don't have a physical copy, but I could always burn it to a DVD and then throw it against the wall.) Anyway, I didn't have any time last night to get involved in a long dungeon, so I just went exploring south and east of Riften to see what I could add to my map. I whacked the dragon at the lair to the south and then went wandering east down the valley to see if I could find a way up to either the ruins on my left or the tower on my right. Very shortly I came across a small house that was mostly burned down, but was still on fire. There was a charred corpse on the floor and a circle of candles in the corner of the room. I searched around for some kind of journal or note that might explain what happened, but found nothing. It might have been the dragon, but I don't recall seeing any other dragons burn down houses. Anyone know what happened here? (The house is not a discoverable location, so there is no map marker for it.) After that, I dealt with the usual bandits and a couple of Orc hunters before finding the Black-Briar Lodge. After leaving the lodge, I headed down the road to the east and spotted a Khajiit in ebony armor standing next to a horse. He attacked me on sight without saying anything and was not labeled a bandit or any other sort of person one would expect to be automatically hostile -- just "Khajiit". He wasn't carrying any notes to indicate that he was involved with the Thalmor (who apparently have an interest in seeing me dead now), and every other Khajiit I have met on the road has been peaceful, so I have no explanation for this event either. Anyone have a clue on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankas Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 There are many unexplained things in Skyrim and not associated with quests. I haven't seen this house, guess I will check it out later. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidus44 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 You are going to find a number of places (camps, houses, carts, just a body) and dead NPCs where there is no clue as to what happened or why. None appear on the map either. I was in that same area near Riften on a quest, passed a hunters camp where I spoke to the hunter then carried on with the quest. On my way back after completing the quest the hunter is still at the camp, but he's dead. Wolves? Bears? Spiders? Bandits? Dragon? None around before and none apparent on coming back and no evidence of them being there either. Just kind of strange. Maybe a heart attack or bad mushrooms killed the hunter - but it seems strange he'd be dead. I have not figured out what is going on with the random attacks either. I have been attacked by that khajiit as well as a dark elf and an orc. All the same as you describe, they are just standing by the road beside a horse and as I approach they suddenly attack. No reason, no clear motive and just marked as to race, no name or anything else to identfy them. I figure its supposed to keep the player on their toes as there are other NPCs who are on the road, but who have a story to tell and who do not attack on seeing you. Made the error of killing some nobleman who was standing beside a horse on the road (he looked like one of those random attackers) and it turned out he had bodyguards and killing him was 2000 bounty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettM Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 Another random attack. This time it was a high-elf mage on a lonely road north of Markarth. He didn't have a horse, but M'aiq the Liar was standing nearby saying he was staying out of it. I was coming down a steep mountainside towards the road and didn't realize the action that started down below had anything to do with me -- I was quite a distance away and wondering what M'aiq was staying out of -- until I got hit. I really have to wonder if somebody has a high-level contract out on me. Initiating hostilities from that distance seems to mean that I am being specifically targeted. These guys are not just thugs, and I haven't done anything that would make anyone send thugs after me anyway. But it has now happened in two locations that are about as far apart as you can get in Skyrim. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota71 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) Nothing strange just one of the hundred Hunters that you can meet trough skyrim (usually some hunters had a shop too) for the pourpose to make skyrim lively, when you explore skyrim you can doing hundred encounters not all are frendly, this is the beauty of Skyrim ;) Edit: its normal when you walk around a region that you encouter people, is not normal a desert nation, where you can find people only in the city Edited February 17, 2012 by yota71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidus44 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Nothing strange just one of the hundred Hunters that you can meet trough skyrim (usually some hunters had a shop too) for the pourpose to make skyrim lively, when you explore skyrim you can doing hundred encounters not all are frendly, this is the beauty of Skyrim ;) Edit: its normal when you walk around a region that you encouter people, is not normal a desert nation, where you can find people only in the city While I don't disagree there are NPCs about to make Skyrim more lively, why is it almost any place I go in the wilderness I run across dead NPCs (hunters, bandits, merchants, necromancers, pilgrims) either lying dead beside a cart (with a dead horse) or in a camp or just by the side of the road or out in the middle of nowhere, with no idea what happened. Dead NPCs don't make the game "livelier" as far as I can see, they're all dead. Even this morning playing I'm just walking from Whiterun to Riften on the road and I see trolls fighting trolls, trolls fighting bears, bears fighting wolves, wolves fighting foxes, wolves killing rabbits, sabre cats killing goats, wolves killing deer and elk and then necromancers fighting necromancers. I run across a observation post and all the Imperial soldiers are dead. I must have passed 4 or 5 dead NPCs (Imperial Courier was one) lying dead at the side of the road as well. The only live NPCs I saw were a guy going to join the Stormcloaks and then a female in dwarven armor (identity "Adventurer") who insults me and then attacks me so I have to kill her. I get into Riften, and the first thing I run across is the guards and population going crazy and they gang up and kill a NPC (marked as "Thief"), but two of the town NPCs get killed in the meelee. A few more hours of playing and I'm pretty sure I'll be the only character left alive in Skyrim, everyone and everything else in Skyrim will have killed or been killed by someone/something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeridiesSylva Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I also found that house and I like to think it was a failed attempt to Summon a daedroth, quite possibly a flame atronach. There is a book in Skyrim that tells the story of a teenage mage who summons a dremora. The daedroth tricks the boy into accepting a gift which, unbeknownst to the teen, breaks the protective enchantment of the summons, and allows the daedroth to escape, killing the boy and his mother.(Can't remember, but I think the book was called "A Tragedy in Black". Oh, and there is at least two other houses in the game that are burnt, and one if definitely done by a dragon. It sits just south of Helgan, and has a note and some bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota71 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) Even this morning playing I'm just walking from Whiterun to Riften on the road and I see trolls fighting trolls, trolls fighting bears, bears fighting wolves, wolves fighting foxes, wolves killing rabbits, sabre cats killing goats, wolves killing deer and elk and then necromancers fighting necromancers. I run across a observation post and all the Imperial soldiers are dead. I must have passed 4 or 5 dead NPCs (Imperial Courier was one) lying dead at the side of the road as well. The only live NPCs I saw were a guy going to join the Stormcloaks and then a female in dwarven armor (identity "Adventurer") who insults me and then attacks me so I have to kill her. I get into Riften, and the first thing I run across is the guards and population going crazy and they gang up and kill a NPC (marked as "Thief"), but two of the town NPCs get killed in the meelee. A few more hours of playing and I'm pretty sure I'll be the only character left alive in Skyrim, everyone and everything else in Skyrim will have killed or been killed by someone/something else. ROTFL thats true animal, monster, mage, thalmor are fighting all over skyrim but all this creature will respawn infinitely, about the NPC its normal that they die, the road of skyrim are very dangerous (as a shopper said to my PG) and in the dragon has returned, the NPC are not all dovakhin they ere common people, they die easly, during my travel in all corner of skyrim i had encounter thalmor, imperial, companion, common people (even a newly Married Couple), and the legendary Kajiit (don't remember the name) maybe in the next update of the game they make Respawning NPC (and if you use a mod like Wars in Skyrim [at dark Age Difficulty] its very somple that the wadering NPC will die easly ;) ) Sorry for my english :) Edited February 18, 2012 by yota71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettM Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 I would probably see even more of such things if I stuck to the roads, but I tend to get frustrated when trying to find the "proper" path to some marker on my compass and I start playing mountain goat to get to it. I have seen a lot of the sights Tidus mentions, though, and met some interesting non-hostiles along the roads. But off-roading has its own compensations, and there are some odd things to be seen out in the wilderness. MeridiesSylva may be right that the burning house was the result of a summoning of some type gone wrong. I remember reading that book, and there was that circle of candles in the corner of the room. I just wish there had been a journal or note around to confirm it. Speaking of strange, the smith in Riverwood (Alvor, the uncle of Hadvar) was killed by a dragon in the middle of the street in front of his house. The body refuses to go away, and is still lying there every time I visit Riverwood, with his wife acting bewildered and the guards questioning me to see if I saw anything. WTH? It's like a Monty Python skit involving completely-clueless cops. Hello, guards? Big scaly thing with wings, breathing fire? Remember? But the people of Skyrim have a great capacity for ignoring dragons flying overhead (Hey, guard, you ought to be one heck of a lot more nervous about that thing above us than about me having my weapon drawn.) or dragon skeletons in the middle of their yards. The funniest NPC death I saw, though, had to be Benor in Morthal. I saw him hanging around by the bridge as usual, when all of a sudden a mudcrab jumps out of the water and one-shots him. ROTFL! Especially when everyone gathered around and the guards went into their questioning-the-witnesses routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanchan05 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Just throw the body in the water. That's what I do to dead NPCs so they can be out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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