CTD after starting new game

[dady4LifeHoe]

I get a CTD every single time I click on new game. I get to see the loading screen but as soon as it's finished loading it crashes.

I've just installed all the mods from Bevilex' modlist from vanilla.

I feel like I read everything well but there's obviously a chance I missed something with over 100 mods.

I've run BOSS like 1000 times at this point, tried LOOT a bunch of times too because it works well on skyrim.

I feel like I'm using TES4Edit to do something but I'm no 100 percent sure I know what I'm doing with it.

Please can someone help me work out what's wrong?

 

Here's my load order:

 

 

0 0 Oblivion.esm

1 1 All Natural Base.esm

2 2 CustomSpellIcons.esm

3 3 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

4 4 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

5 5 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

6 6 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

7 7 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

8 8 All Natural.esp

9 9 All Natural - SI.esp

10 a Immersive Interiors.esp

11 b Immersive Interiors - Bravil.esp

12 c Immersive Interiors - Imperial City.esp

13 d Immersive Interiors - Landscape Addon.esp

14 e All Natural - Real Lights.esp

15 f WindowLightingSystem.esp

16 10 BrumasNorthernLights.esp

17 11 AliveWaters.esp

18 12 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

19 13 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

20 14 AliveWaters_nofish.esp

21 15 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

22 16 ImprovedSigns.esp

23 17 PTFallingStars.esp

24 18 QQuix - Rock, rock, rock your ship - V3.esp

25 19 kuerteeCleanUp.esp

26 1a OblivionReloaded.esp

27 1b Dynamic Map.esp

28 1c Map Marker Overhaul.esp

29 1d DLCHorseArmor.esp

30 1e DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

31 1f DLCOrrery.esp

32 20 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

33 21 DLCVileLair.esp

34 22 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

35 23 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

36 24 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

37 25 DLCSpellTomes.esp

38 26 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

39 27 Book Jackets DLC.esp

40 28 GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp

41 29 MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

42 2a Mass Outfit Redesign.esp

43 2b Weapon Improvement Project.esp

44 2c DLCThievesDen.esp

45 2d DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

46 2e DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

47 2f Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp

48 30 Alluring Wine Bottles.esp

49 31 RoadLights.esp

50 32 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

51 33 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

52 34 DLCFrostcrag.esp

53 35 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

54 36 Knights.esp

55 37 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

56 38 Harvest [Flora].esp

57 39 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

58 3a Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

59 3b Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Grass Overhaul.esp

60 3c Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp

61 3d ShinySeptims_Septimus.esp

62 3e ShinySeptims_Trajanus.esp

63 3f VanillaCombatEnhanced.esp

64 40 VCEClassOverhaul.esp

65 41 high elf own texture.esp

66 42 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp

67 43 Falling Leaves.esp

All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp

68 44 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Thanks

[gromulos]

try this

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/22368/?

 

and follow ALL of Step 2 from my guide including the appendix 1 ( if you need to ) - what you are looking for is any orange or red mods { explained in my guide }

 

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2235394-beginners-guide-to-modding/

 

and yes i know the guide was written for Skyrim but as far as Wrye is concerned it "should" be the same info

 

Oh and 1 more thing, and I almost never say this lol, don't use LOOT, you were correct in using BOSS. LOOT does a horrible job sorting Oblivion, Morrowind, and Fallout 3.

Edited June 26, 2017 by gromulos

[dady4LifeHoe]

Ok, I went through all of that and did it exactly as it said.

None of my mods are red now- all green, a number of my installers' checkboxes are yellow, red or maybe orange I can't tell, but I don't know what that means.

I'm not using LOOT now, just BOSS.

There was nothing on TES4Edit that said error but like I said, I'm unfamiliar with that program so I could be missing something.

Despite all that, the exact same thing is happening - CTD as soon as the loading screen is over from new game.

[gromulos]

"checkboxes are yellow, red or maybe orange"

 

Use a magnifying glass if you have to and read the part in my guide where I explain what the difference is between Orange, Red, and Green mods is.

 

Simply put

 

Red = CTD as soon as the game starts - "most of the time"

Orange = CTD's when you least expect it

Green = you're good to go

[Surilindur]

I think the OP meant that their installers were yellow, orange or red, and not plugins. At least the last post made it sounds like it. This part:

 

-- a number of my installers' checkboxes are yellow, red or maybe orange I can't tell, --

[dady4LifeHoe]

 

I think the OP meant that their installers were yellow, orange or red, and not plugins. At least the last post made it sounds like it. This part:

 

-- a number of my installers' checkboxes are yellow, red or maybe orange I can't tell, --

 

 

Yes, that's what I meant, sorry if I was unclear.

I've read through the guides and have been looking elsewhere, trying to understand this process a bit better.

Now all my mods are green and I read through the mod descriptions and I'm pretty sure I've got them loading in an order that shouldn't be a problem.

I lowered a number of my video settings just in case.

I've used TES4Edit to clean the mods that WB said I should.

 

I'm not sure which of the above changed anything, but now I get to see the opening cinematic before it CTDs.

 

Here's my load order, ordered by BOSS, it has changed:

 

Active Mod Files:

00  Oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.36]
02  CustomSpellIcons.esm
03  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.5]
04  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
++  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
05  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
06  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.9]
07  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.36]
08  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.36]
09  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]
0A  Immersive Interiors - Bravil.esp
0B  Immersive Interiors - Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.5]
0C  Immersive Interiors - Landscape Addon.esp
0D  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.36]
0E  WindowLightingSystem.esp
0F  BrumasNorthernLights.esp
10  AliveWaters.esp
11  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
12  AliveWaters_nofish.esp
13  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
14  ImprovedSigns.esp
15  PTFallingStars.esp
16  QQuix - Rock, rock, rock your ship - V3.esp
17  kuerteeCleanUp.esp
18  OblivionReloaded.esp
19  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]
1A  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
1B  DLCHorseArmor.esp
1C  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
1D  DLCOrrery.esp
1E  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
1F  DLCVileLair.esp
20  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
21  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
22  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
23  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
**  Book Jackets DLC.esp
**  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
++  Weapon Improvement Project.esp  [Version 1.9]
24  DLCThievesDen.esp
25  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.15]
26  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.14]
27  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
++  Alluring Wine Bottles.esp
28  RoadLights.esp
29  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
2A  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.12]
2B  DLCFrostcrag.esp
2C  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]
2D  Knights.esp
2E  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.8]
++  Mass Outfit Redesign.esp
2F  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
**  Grass Overhaul.esp
++  Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp
++  ShinySeptims_Septimus.esp
++  ShinySeptims_Trajanus.esp
30  VanillaCombatEnhanced.esp
++  VCEClassOverhaul.esp
++  high elf own texture.esp
31  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
32  Falling Leaves.esp  [Version 1.0]
33  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Thanks

[gromulos]

Are these original game files or mods?

 

01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.36]
02 CustomSpellIcons.esm

 

If they are mods they should be BELOW the Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp, not above

 

NOTE: I just realized something while looking at your load order. Make sure you are following certain mods correctly when you are including the ESP's. What I mean about that is make sure you are loading ONLY the ESP's you need. For instance:

 

++ ShinySeptims_Septimus.esp
++ ShinySeptims_Trajanus.esp

 

Make sure on the description page it doesn't say something like " Use one ESP or the other, not both" . Many mods include more than one ESP and loading 2 or more when you don't need them could very well cause the same EXACT CTD you're having.

[dady4LifeHoe]

Are these original game files or mods?

 

01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.36]

02 CustomSpellIcons.esm

 

If they are mods they should be BELOW the Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp, not above...

 

No, they're both mods. the unofficial patch can't be moved above them on WB, I was under the impression that .esm always comes before .esp in oblivion load order, but maybe I'm wrong, if so, I don't know how to move these below the unofficial patch on WB.

I tried deactivating them and any mods that rely on them but there was no difference - CTD after opening cinematic.

 

Thanks for spotting the two .esp for the same mod, I removed one of them.

 

I let BOSS do my load order, with the exception of Mass Outfit Redesign.esp which has to be loaded after knights.esp, but BOSS always puts it before so I move it.

 

CTD after opening cinematic still, no change.

 

This is my load order at present.

 

Active Mod Files:

00  Oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.36]
02  CustomSpellIcons.esm
03  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.5]
04  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
++  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
05  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
06  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.9]
07  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.36]
08  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.36]
09  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]
0A  Immersive Interiors - Bravil.esp
0B  Immersive Interiors - Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.5]
0C  Immersive Interiors - Landscape Addon.esp
0D  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.36]
0E  WindowLightingSystem.esp
0F  BrumasNorthernLights.esp
10  AliveWaters_nofish.esp
11  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
12  ImprovedSigns.esp
13  PTFallingStars.esp
14  QQuix - Rock, rock, rock your ship - V3.esp
15  kuerteeCleanUp.esp
16  OblivionReloaded.esp
17  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]
18  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]
19  DLCHorseArmor.esp
1A  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
1B  DLCOrrery.esp
1C  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
1D  DLCVileLair.esp
1E  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
1F  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
20  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
21  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
**  Book Jackets DLC.esp
**  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
++  Weapon Improvement Project.esp  [Version 1.9]
22  DLCThievesDen.esp
23  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.15]
24  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.14]
25  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
26  Alluring Wine Bottles.esp
27  RoadLights.esp
28  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
29  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.12]
2A  DLCFrostcrag.esp
2B  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]
2C  Knights.esp
2D  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.8]
++  Mass Outfit Redesign.esp
2E  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
**  Grass Overhaul.esp
++  Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp
++  ShinySeptims_Septimus.esp
2F  VanillaCombatEnhanced.esp
++  VCEClassOverhaul.esp
++  high elf own texture.esp
30  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
31  Falling Leaves.esp  [Version 1.0]
32  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[gromulos]

 

Thanks for spotting the two .esp for the same mod, I removed one of them.

 

 

You're welcome but what I meant is that you need to do that ALSO for any other mod that may use multiple ESM's / ESP's

 

At this point I think ultimately that what you are going to have to do is the old tried and true method.

 

 

1) disable ALL mods

2) go into the game and make a save with ZERO mods activated

3) enable FIVE mods at a time, and after each 5 go into the game and test it to see if it crashes

4) once you find the batch of 5 mods that crashes the game, disable those 5 and then test one by one

5) when you find the mod(s) causing the crashes, either look for an alternative one like it (them) or ditch the problem mod(s)

Edited June 26, 2017 by gromulos

[dady4LifeHoe]

I was worried I'd have to do that - that'll teach me for installing so many at once.

 

Thanks for the help.