Should inmates have the right to vote in elections?

[Jeoshua]

Absolutely. Every person can and should say what they believe to be true. It's actually the main principle that Democracy is based upon.

 

As to whether or not the votes of prisoners would have an impact on the outcome of the elections, I think that is entirely beside the point. The fact, as it now lies, is that there is absolutely no reason for politicians to care about prisoners. They can demonize them, slander them, use them as tools to bring up fear among voters, all without fear of losing so much as one vote.

 

I would like to point out that the elections of George W Bush were decided electorally, with a very slim popular margin. A few million more votes might have changed the outcome, and therefore the president, in those elections.

 

When even one person is denied the right to vote merely because they have fallen into a certain category, whether that be criminal, or poor, or gay or lesbian, or black, or military officer, or whatever, the effect of the vote of representation of the people is lost.

[jaysus]

votes are not really representative anymore anyway, barely 40-50% go to vote in most countries and in the US a huge majority of those that still do vote are also members of the armed forces and hence kinda the government itself (i forgot the right numbers but somin like 40% of the civilian pop vote but 80% of the armed forces do)

 

the problem with going to vote are two,

for one can you not be sure if your vote ever gets counted, many people in the states mentioned that votes vanished but who can prove that? the ballots are secret and noone will check... awesome lol, so there is no way to verify the results,

and for another, no matter who you vote for in the end they wont have much to say, all those elected politicians do is play by the book and talk about "politics" in whatever senate or parliament you got, they dont do fundamentally different things, they just bend over for the banking system in another direction, republicans like it doggy and liberals in missionary i assume... but they both still get taken hard... noone simply does what is needed, they worry more about how they look on TV, if they will get the next huge cash injection to their party, worry about the company in which they hold 30% of the shares and so on...

but most people still fall for that nonense as these politicians appear to be busy standing up for their ideals and principles when all they really do is talk BS all day with each other instead of tackling whatever problem there is...

 

lets take an example, iraq, perfect, the invasion was inner political crap that was based on an ideologie that the US needs to invade and halliburton and co need to get richer (which coincidently were also owned by the very same people who started that war), then obama comes along and promises the retreat, "yay" the democrats scream, "now we get our thing going"... both these actions made absoluely no sense and did not serve anything but inner political blabla and shoulder padding, going in was dickish in the first place but pulling out to satisfy some voters just makes it worse by actually leaving a devestated country to its demise and hence surely to the strongest taking power and a bunch of newly created terrorists rising up and hating on the US...

the sensitive thing to do would be to stay, sure it doesnt sound good on TV to say that but you screwed that place, better make sure it gets tidied up before you go and leave it to grow and foster some hardcore terrorists so that youll have to invade again in 5yrs...

no problems were solved, they only acted in the best interest of their public image and their bank account...

[grannywils]

Well Jaysus, that was totally off topic; but I gotta say I like the way you think :tongue: