Found the Railroad, but Tradecraft won't start.

[Benjango]

So I've gone down into the crypts and found the Railroad, like you normally do. However an interesting problem occurs. I remember everyone stands around while I go and talk to Deacon on the right side of the room. He gives me the start of Tradecraft and we go on our merry synth slaying way. However this time around, everyone (including Deacon), walks to the back room where the secret door to HQ leads. They all congregate in the back room and I am unable to talk to Deacon at all. The quest for Tradecraft doesn't even appear in my log. Whenever I attempt to speak to Deacon, my character just says Hi and nothing else happens. This wouldn't be a problem if I wasn't going for a Railroad character. I've tried leaving, fast traveling, saving, and loading but so far nothing works. Is there a way to manually start a quest via console perhaps?

[MightyZ0G]

I had a similar problem but it turned out that I had forgotten to finish all the dialogue with Desdemona.

[Benjango]

I thought so as well, but after everyone started walking away, all she would say to me was that I was free to leave and that I can thank Deacon for that.

[MightyZ0G]

in that case, try this in console

 

SetStage 0006fa37 50

[Benjango]

After typing that in, the console seems to accept the command but no message appears. That's the command for Tradecraft's first stage correct? Unfortunately the command literally does nothing in my game. The console takes the command but no messages or new quests pop up.

Not sure if this will show up but here's what everyone does when Des stops talking and I complete the initial quest.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1087514624

 

In the pic everyone just piles into the false door entryway, and Deacon is dead silent when I try to speak to him.

Is there any requirement to start Tradecraft besides finding the Railroad? Perhaps I need to be higher level? Kill Kellogg? etc?

[Fonger]

you gotta have a save before you talked to desdemona

 

then you gotta find the mod that buggered this and remove it

 

then talk to her

[Benjango]

luckily I do have a save just as I approach the first door. Just to make sure, can I untick the esp or do I have to deactivate the mod in order to properly find the culprit?

[MightyZ0G]

try this

 

SetStage 000459d2 1100

that should set road to freedom as completed.

if Tradecraft doesn't start automatically, try again with

 

SetStage 0006fa37 50

 

if that doesn't work, you could try

SetStage 0006fa37 150

to skip to meeting Deacon at the Highway.

 

if you are going to try and find the mod that is causing this (worthwhile as it will probably break other quests later)

first, in the plugins tab of NMM, there is a button to export your load order. do this so that if you have to reinstall mods it will give you an idea of what was where.

if you are at or near the mod limit of 255, you could be getting weird glitches and bugs. the lower your specs, the fewer mods you can have.

if that is the case, disable esps for any mods that you can live without to see if that fixes it.

if that isn't the case, look through the mods for big game changing overhauls as they are the most likely culprits.

 

if nothing jumps out, disable half your mods and enter the railroad to complete road to freedom.

if it works and tradecraft starts, the problem mod was one you disabled.

if it doesn't work, disable half of the remaining mods and keep going until you can complete road to freedom and start tradecraft.

once you have identified the group of mods that contain the culprit, try them out a few at a time until you can identify it and uninstall it.

then enable all the other mods, load your save from outside the railroad and see if you can get tradecraft to start when road to freedom completes.

 

there is also a possibility that tradecraft won't start if you have progressed too far in the BoS story line

[Benjango]

At the moment in game, my character is level 12 and I've only done up to searching for the lost patrol at the sensor array for the BOS. I'm playing with the Immersive Gameplay survival mod so leveling is really slow for me.
If you're curious here is my load order.

GameMode=Fallout4

Fallout4.esm=1
DLCRobot.esm=1
DLCworkshop01.esm=1
DLCCoast.esm=1
DLCworkshop02.esm=1
DLCworkshop03.esm=1
DLCNukaWorld.esm=1
DLCUltraHighResolution.esm=1
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp=1
HUDFramework.esm=1
ArmorKeywords.esm=1
ConcealedArmor.esm=1
Worsin's Garage.esm=1
SimSettlements.esm=1
OVT.esp=1
CommonwealthConifersREDUX.esp=1
FAR.esp=1
RobotFactionPaint.esp=1
CBBE.esp=1
ImprovedNuke.esp=1
CROSS_GoreCrits.esp=1
EPO.esp=1
Scrapper Corpse Highlighting.esp=1
Scrapper Corpse Highlighting DLC Patch.esp=1
Consistent Power Armor Overhaul.esp=1
IP4APA.esp=1
MMP4APA-blue.esp=1
MMP4APA.esp=1
RRP4APA.esp=1
D.E.C.A.Y.esp=1
Pilgrim.esp=1
Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp=1
PilgrimDarkMeat.esp=1
ShellRain.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp=1
MK_ComponentsRedone_VIS.esp=1
dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp=1
Glorious_Glowing_Plasma_Weapons_by_Diranar.esp=1
MiscHairstyle.esp=1
X01Light.esp=1
Pilgrim-Radiant Clouds and Fogs Patch-Full.esp=1
RadiantBirdsv05.esp=1
InstitWeapPosit.esp=1
Lever Action Reload Fix.esp=1
Bashing killmoves enabled.esp=1
RightHandedHuntingRifle.esp=1
Swinging Meat Bags.esp=1
Armorsmith Extended.esp=1
Combat_Helmet_Illumination 1.2.esp=1
Automatron Helmets Fix.esp=1
CigaretteInMouth.esp=1
RaiderOverhaul.esp=1
Raider Overhaul - Restored Content-VIS - AE.esp=1
Raider Overhaul - AE Patch-Restored Content.esp=1
ConcealedArmor.esp=1
Faction Field Outfits.esp=1
Hoodless Scribe Hat.esp=1
K9TacticalHarness.esp=1
Crimsomrider's 1950s Feminine Outfits.esp=1
Sporty Underwear.esp=1
NukaColaClassic.esp=1
NukaColaClassic_DLC.esp=1
spacefiddle_Follower-Stealth-Distance-Fixes.esp=1
CleanSoup.esp=1
LegendaryModification.esp=1
LegendaryModificationMisc.esp=1
LegendaryModificationCSA.esp=1
LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp=1
LegendaryModification - DLC Far Harbor.esp=1
SyringerAmmoSimplerIngredients.esp=1
DD_Khassar_De_Templari_Increased_build.esp=1
SaveManager.esp=1
SlowTime.esp=1
CriticalHitsOutsideofVATS.esp=1
Targeting Sensors on Recon Scopes.esp=1
CTHColoredFriendliesSneakingAndWeaponDrawn.esp=1
Faster Terminal Displays (20x).esp=1
LongerPowerLines3x.esp=1
NoAffinityCooldown.esp=1
NoRandomMercer.esp=1
No Scope Fade In.esp=1
Splinterz.esp=1
KSHairdos.esp=1
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1
VertibirdBeacon.esp=1
PackBrahminsToEyebots_Settlements.esp=1
SettlementMenuManager.esp=1
TravisTips.esp=1
ModdableRobotSettlers.esp=1
BetterSettlers.esp=1
BetterSettlersMortalPack.esp=1
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp=1
BrighterSettlementLights_LessHarsh.esp=1
SpotlightFix-300-Shadow.esp=1
mso_sms.esp=1
SkjAlert_All_DLC.esp=1
AllSetsExtended.esp=1
UltraInteriorLighting.esp=1
StartMeUp.esp=1
VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp=1
BTInteriors_Project.esp=1
CartographersMapMarkers NukaWorld.esp=1
subwayrunnnerdynamiclighting.esp=1
Goodfellow's Glorified Goodneighbor.esp=1
Remove Interior Fog - All Dlc.esp=1
CheatTerminal.esp=1
InteriorsEnhanced-All-In-One.esp=1
Underground Railroad.esp=1
CombatZoneRestored.esp=1
TrainBar.esp=1
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp=1
FallComplete.esp=1
ImmersiveDrumlinDiner.esp=1
Goodfellow's Diamond City Defences.esp=1
SuperMutantOverhaul.esp=1
Glowing Animals Emit Light.esp=1
Expanded Railway Rifle Mods.esp=1
My_Minutemen.esp=1
DiamondCityPlus.esp=1
FHLeveledListIntegration.esp=1
Crimsomrider's DLC Ammo.esp=1
RedWaveReloaded.esp=1
OverpassOverhaul.esp=1
Vertibird Faction Paint Schemes.esp=1
UniqueUniques.esp=1
NukaRadBans.esp=1
Better Cooking Stations.esp=1
Mercenary.esp=1
CartographersMapMarkers Commonwealth.esp=1
Faction Field Outfits Level List.esp=1
BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp=1
TrueGrass.esp=1
Dogmeat's Backpack.esp=1
Scrapper02-Weapon Highlight-FarHarbor.esp=1
SkipHSH1_6.esp=1
SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Utilities_JtBryant.esp=1
Mama Murphys Chair Redone.esp=1
ColorfulSurvivalIcons.esp=1
LooksMenu.esp=1
Light Radius Redux AIO.esp=1
All Military Skin pack.esp=1
BetterJunkFences.esp=1
QuadBarrelShotgun.esp=1
Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp=1
UniquePipboy.esp=1
NoVanillaRadiantDLCLocations.esp=1
Ambient Wasteland.esp=1
MercenaryCBBEPatch.esp=1
Automatron For All.esp=1
AutomatronUnlocked.esp=1
AutomatronUnlockedNukaParts.esp=1
QuickEnterFromStand.esp=1
QuickExitToStand.esp=1
Guards.esp=1
DiamondCitySWAT.esp=1
Randomized DC Guard Outfits.esp=1
SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Foundations_JtBryant.esp=1
JibsResidentialAddOnPack.esp=1
Altairp's Animal Farm.esp=1
SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Defences_Brae.esp=1
ruined_simsettlement_addonpack.esp=1
NeighborWatch.esp=1
SS Addon Hunter-Gather.esp=1
TrailerParkDreams.esp=1
llamaCompanionHeather.esp=1
FO4 NPCs Travel.esp=1
CartographersMapMarkers FarHarbor.esp=1
EvilViking13_PatchworkSanctuaryBridge.esp=1
Finch and Graygarden Elevator.esp=1
WVSimSAddon.esp=1
PCDugSIMAddon.esp=1
AtomicRadio.esp=1
SalvageBeacons.esp=1
Vertibird Alt Fix.esp=1
IndustrialCity_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp=1
home_improvement_all.esp=1
IMG_Castle_Wall_Patches.esp=1
PCDugWedges.esp=1
MJC_Sim_Settlements_Addon.esp=1
SimSettlements_AddOnPack_SimTowers_JtBryant.esp=1
WhatsYourName.esp=1
WhatsYourNameFH.esp=1
DX Chem I Care Outfit.esp=1
DX Commonwealth Mini Dresses.esp=1
DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp=1
DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp=1
ScavengedMercGear.esp=1
el_AgentOutfit.esp=1
railroad_uniform.esp=1
railroad_uniform_leveledList.esp=1
Evil Detective Outfit.esp=1
Worsin's Decal Station.esp=1
SimSettlementsAddOnPack - RaiderRefugees.esp=1
SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp=1
IncreasedSettlerPopulation50.esp=1
Classic Fallout Music.esp=1
EveryonesBestFriend.esp=1
More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp=1
More Where That Came From - Classic.esp=1
ChairFace.esp=1
VaultGirl_AsPiper.esp=1
Subtle Face Tweaks - Curie.esp=1
LovingCait.esp=1
ManufacturingExtended.esp=1
ManufacturingExtendedFH.esp=1
CWSS Redux.esp=1
Evan_Modular Kitchen.esp=1
True-Frags_v1-2_HiDmg_Knockdown_LongRange_NukaDLC.esp=1
Insignificant Object Remover.esp=1
TheFridgeWireless.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting - Super Mutant Redux.esp=1
ImmersiveGameplay.esp=1
Wasteland Heroines Replacer4_1.0.0.esp=1
Wasteland Heroines Replacer2_1.0.1.esp=1
Wasteland Heroines Replacer3_1.0.0.esp=1
Hot Mama Murphy.esp=1
LuckyYouPerk.esp=1
Raider Overhaul Patch.esp=1
IG-MercenaryPack_Patch.esp=1
SeasonPass_IG_PATCH.esp=1
Craftable Armor Size - Fix Material Requirements.esp=1
Craftable Armor Size.esp=1
LR_Motorcycle.esp=1
LR_LoneWandererFarHarbour.esp=1
LR_LoneWandererNukaWorld.esp=1
wastelandwoundcare.esp=1
SleepOrSave.esp=1
XCE.esp=1
FoodDontHeal_ValdacilCompatible.esp=1
Scrap Everything - Core.esp=1
Scrap Everything - Nuka World.esp=1
Scrap Everything - Far Harbor.esp=1

 

 

The load order isn't perfect by any means, and I'm trying to find an order that works. (which so far this did until now :P) I'm also trying to experiment with mods that could work with IG, so it is kind of a mess. As you can probably see, I am near the end of the limit, so I'm looking into doing merges for the numerous Sim Settlement addons I use along with others.

[BP98]

If you're on a modded save, check for the cleaner switchboard mod by elianora. That mod is what was causing the bug for me. Edited February 4, 2018 by BP98