megadace Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Hi there, I haven't modded Oblivion in years and recently reinstalled it for a new adventure. I'm not a complete newbie when it comes to using wrye bash and OBMM but I can't seem to get texture packs such as Qarls and Improved Trees and Flora 2 working correctly. Here's what my game looks like: http://i.imgur.com/65gHNXO.jpg http://i.imgur.com/BGcz3Cj.jpg http://i.imgur.com/D7JuFqo.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Rj8H8Wh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/AejJufj.jpg Since it has been so long since I played the game, I'm not sure whether the textures I'm looking at are vanilla or modded. Trees & Flora 2 definitely isn't working but improved sky and night sky are working fine. Part of the reason this is mystifying me is that I remember using archive invalidation in the past, however BSA redirection works differently and I'm not sure how. Here's my Load order in case it helps. Right now I'm not crashing and all my mods seem to work except for these texture replacers. Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Cybiades.esm [Version 2.0] 02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.36] 03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 5.0] 04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 5.0] 05 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm [Version 5.0] 06 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 07 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm 08 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35] 09 Artifacts.esm [Version 1.1] 0A Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 6.0.8] 0B HorseCombatMaster.esm 0C Knights - Revelation.esm 0D Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.5] 0E Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 0F DLCShiveringIsles.esp 10 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.9] ** MOBS SI.esp [Version 2.0] 11 Better Cities .esp [Version 6.0.5] 12 Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp [Version 5.0] 13 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp 14 All Natural.esp [Version 1.36] 15 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.36] 16 Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1] 17 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp 18 Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1] 19 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.36] 1A WindowLightingSystem.esp 1B AliveWaters.esp 1C AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp 1D AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp 1E ImprovedSigns.esp 1F RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.7] 20 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3] 21 moDem's City Life.esp 22 Crowded Roads.esp [Version 2.0] 23 Populated Prisons.esp [Version 1.2] 24 DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4] 25 Streamline 3.1.esp 26 Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1] 27 DLCHorseArmor.esp 28 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 29 DLCOrrery.esp 2A DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 2B DLCVileLair.esp 2C DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11] 2D DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 2E DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 2F DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] 30 Immersive Weapons.esp ++ Weapon Improvement Project.esp [Version 1.9] 31 DLCThievesDen.esp 32 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.15] 33 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.14] 34 Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp 35 Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 5.0] 36 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp [Version 5.0] 37 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp [Version 5.0] 38 Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp [Version 5.0] 39 Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Locks.esp [Version 5.0] 3A Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp [Version 5.0] 3B Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp [Version 5.0] 3C Francesco's Optional New Adventurers.esp [Version 5.0] ++ Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp [Version 5.0] 3D Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp [Version 5.0] 3E Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp [Version 5.0] 3F Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp [Version 5.0] 40 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 41 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] ++ ArmamentariumLL.esp [Version 1.35] ++ ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp [Version 1.35] 42 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35] ++ ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp [Version 1.35] 43 Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp 44 Artifacts.esp [Version 1.1] ++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0] 45 GB_Oblivion Tournament.esp 46 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [Version 3.0] 47 Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp 48 Malevolent.esp 49 GTAesgaard.esp [Version 1.3] 4A BetterInns + NewHomeOwners.esp [Version 1.2] 4B BetterInns - COBL PATCH.esp 4C Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp 4D DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 4E DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12] 4F DLCfrostcrag.esp 50 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] 51 Knights.esp 52 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8] 53 Knights - Revelation.esp ** DLC_MOBS.esp [Version 2.0] 54 Cybiades.esp [Version 2.1] 55 CybiadesDungeon.esp [Version 2.1] 56 The Lost Spires.esp 57 Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp 58 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp 59 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 2] 5A xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 2] 5B xulTheHeath.esp [Version 2] 5C xulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 2] 5D xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 2] 5E xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 2] 5F xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 2] 60 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 2] 61 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 2] 62 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 2] 63 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 2] 64 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 2] 65 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 2.0.0] 66 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 2] 67 xulPantherRiver.esp [Version 2] 68 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 2] 69 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 2] 6A xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 2] 6B xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 2] 6C xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 2] 6D xulAspenWood.esp [Version 2] 6E xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 2] 6F xulSnowdale.esp [Version 2] 70 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 2] 71 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 2] 72 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 2] 73 xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 2] 74 Unique Landscapes.esp [Version Dummy] 75 Better Cities - House price patch.esp [Version 1.0] 76 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp 77 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0] 78 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0] 79 Better Dungeons.esp 7A Carry all you want-5118.esp 7B Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp ++ Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp 7C Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp 7D Quest Award Leveling.esp 7E Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp 7F Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp 80 NoHealingDuringWait.esp 81 RealisticForceMedium.esp 82 LTDVampireOverhaul.esp 83 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b] 84 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.90] 85 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_VanillaSpells.esp [Version 0.90] ++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.90] 86 MidasSpells.esp 87 No psychic guards v1.2.esp 88 Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp 89 Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp 8A HAZeatanimations.esp 8B ScriptEffectSubduer.esp 8C Cosmetic Compilation.esp 8D Better Cities Full.esp [Version 6.0.8] 8E Better Imperial City.esp [Version 6.0.8] 8F All Natural Real Lights - Better Cities IC Patch.esp 90 xulChorrolHinterland-BC6.esp [Version 2] 91 Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 6.0.7] 92 Better Cities - Alternative Start Arrive by Ship.esp [Version 6.0.8] ++ Better Cities - MOBS.esp [Version 6.0.0] 93 Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp [Version 6.0.7] ++ Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 6.0.4] 94 Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp [Version 6.0.0] ++ BetterExplosions.esp 95 DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp ++ Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp ++ SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.90] ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.36] 96 Bashed Patch, 0.esp +DarkUId, also I used the NMM version of Qarl's because I heard OBMM is depreciated. 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LFact Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 BSA redirection should work.... Well, have you done 'BSA timestamp reset'? Any replacer won't work if BSA file date is newer than replacers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megadace Posted August 8, 2017 Author Share Posted August 8, 2017 BSA redirection should work.... Well, have you done 'BSA timestamp reset'? Any replacer won't work if BSA file date is newer than replacers. It appears all my BSAs were last modified to 1/1/2006 in windows, not sure if that's the same as a BSA timestamp: http://i.imgur.com/DtJRZjX.png Can I do the BSA timestamp reset through NMM or do I have to use OBMM? Side question: How much does the wrye bash install order matter for this? I have ITF near the bottom so it hopefully overrides everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megadace Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 I found the problem: I didn't realize Trees and flora 2 was only an update and not the whole mod, you also have to download the first part here: http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/8500/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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