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Problems with BSA redirection / texture packs


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Hi there, I haven't modded Oblivion in years and recently reinstalled it for a new adventure. I'm not a complete newbie when it comes to using wrye bash and OBMM but I can't seem to get texture packs such as Qarls and Improved Trees and Flora 2 working correctly. Here's what my game looks like:

 

http://i.imgur.com/65gHNXO.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/BGcz3Cj.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/D7JuFqo.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/Rj8H8Wh.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/AejJufj.jpg

 

Since it has been so long since I played the game, I'm not sure whether the textures I'm looking at are vanilla or modded. Trees & Flora 2 definitely isn't working but improved sky and night sky are working fine.

 

Part of the reason this is mystifying me is that I remember using archive invalidation in the past, however BSA redirection works differently and I'm not sure how.

 

Here's my Load order in case it helps. Right now I'm not crashing and all my mods seem to work except for these texture replacers.

 

Active Mod Files:

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Cybiades.esm  [Version 2.0]
02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.36]
03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]
04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]
05  Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]
06  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
07  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
08  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]
09  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]
0A  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 6.0.8]
0B  HorseCombatMaster.esm
0C  Knights - Revelation.esm
0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.5]
0E  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.9]
**  MOBS SI.esp  [Version 2.0]
11  Better Cities .esp  [Version 6.0.5]
12  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0]
13  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
14  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.36]
15  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.36]
16  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]
17  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
18  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]
19  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.36]
1A  WindowLightingSystem.esp
1B  AliveWaters.esp
1C  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
1D  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
1E  ImprovedSigns.esp
1F  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.7]
20  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
21  moDem's City Life.esp
22  Crowded Roads.esp  [Version 2.0]
23  Populated Prisons.esp  [Version 1.2]
24  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]
25  Streamline 3.1.esp
26  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]
27  DLCHorseArmor.esp
28  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
29  DLCOrrery.esp
2A  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
2B  DLCVileLair.esp
2C  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
2D  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
2E  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
2F  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
30  Immersive Weapons.esp
++  Weapon Improvement Project.esp  [Version 1.9]
31  DLCThievesDen.esp
32  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.15]
33  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.14]
34  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
35  Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 5.0]
36  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]
37  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
38  Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp  [Version 5.0]
39  Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Locks.esp  [Version 5.0]
3A  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]
3B  Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp  [Version 5.0]
3C  Francesco's Optional New Adventurers.esp  [Version 5.0]
++  Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp  [Version 5.0]
3D  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
3E  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp  [Version 5.0]
3F  Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp  [Version 5.0]
40  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
41  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]
++  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]
++  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp  [Version 1.35]
42  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]
++  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp  [Version 1.35]
43  Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp
44  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]
++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]
45  GB_Oblivion Tournament.esp
46  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [Version 3.0]
47  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
48  Malevolent.esp
49  GTAesgaard.esp  [Version 1.3]
4A  BetterInns + NewHomeOwners.esp  [Version 1.2]
4B  BetterInns - COBL PATCH.esp
4C  Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp
4D  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
4E  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.12]
4F  DLCfrostcrag.esp
50  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]
51  Knights.esp
52  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.8]
53  Knights - Revelation.esp
**  DLC_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
54  Cybiades.esp  [Version 2.1]
55  CybiadesDungeon.esp  [Version 2.1]
56  The Lost Spires.esp
57  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
58  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
59  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 2]
5A  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 2]
5B  xulTheHeath.esp  [Version 2]
5C  xulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 2]
5D  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 2]
5E  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 2]
5F  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 2]
60  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 2]
61  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 2]
62  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 2]
63  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 2]
64  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 2]
65  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 2.0.0]
66  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 2]
67  xulPantherRiver.esp  [Version 2]
68  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 2]
69  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 2]
6A  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 2]
6B  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 2]
6C  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 2]
6D  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 2]
6E  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 2]
6F  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 2]
70  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 2]
71  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 2]
72  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 2]
73  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 2]
74  Unique Landscapes.esp  [Version Dummy]
75  Better Cities - House price patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
76  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
77  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
78  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
79  Better Dungeons.esp
7A  Carry all you want-5118.esp
7B  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp
++  Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp
7C  Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp
7D  Quest Award Leveling.esp
7E  Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp
7F  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
80  NoHealingDuringWait.esp
81  RealisticForceMedium.esp
82  LTDVampireOverhaul.esp
83  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]
84  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]
85  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_VanillaSpells.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]
86  MidasSpells.esp
87  No psychic guards v1.2.esp
88  Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
89  Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp
8A  HAZeatanimations.esp
8B  ScriptEffectSubduer.esp
8C  Cosmetic Compilation.esp
8D  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 6.0.8]
8E  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 6.0.8]
8F  All Natural Real Lights - Better Cities IC Patch.esp
90  xulChorrolHinterland-BC6.esp  [Version 2]
91  Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 6.0.7]
92  Better Cities - Alternative Start Arrive by Ship.esp  [Version 6.0.8]
++  Better Cities - MOBS.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
93  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 6.0.7]
++  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
94  Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
++  BetterExplosions.esp
95  DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp
++  Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp
++  SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.36]
96  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

+DarkUId, also I used the NMM version of Qarl's because I heard OBMM is depreciated.
Any advice is appreciated, thank you for reading.
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BSA redirection should work.... Well, have you done 'BSA timestamp reset'? Any replacer won't work if BSA file date is newer than replacers.

 

It appears all my BSAs were last modified to 1/1/2006 in windows, not sure if that's the same as a BSA timestamp:

 

http://i.imgur.com/DtJRZjX.png

 

Can I do the BSA timestamp reset through NMM or do I have to use OBMM?

 

Side question: How much does the wrye bash install order matter for this? I have ITF near the bottom so it hopefully overrides everything else.

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