invariably ctding in certain areas

[axfvh]

happens any time i go near the central urban area or try to enter the mechanist lair (it happens while loading on fasttravel) i'm aware there's already a thread sorta about this but for my specific load order:

 

i've used loot, or tried to

 

disabling "the code" delays the crash but it still happens when i get a little closer or wait a while

 

i would give up and fork from a much earlier save but i've spent a lot of time on settlements, maybe i'll try and import them over if that tool thing allows importing mod objects

 

 

 

0 0 Fallout4.esm
1 1 DLCRobot.esm
2 2 DLCworkshop01.esm
3 3 DLCCoast.esm
4 4 DLCworkshop02.esm
5 5 DLCworkshop03.esm
6 6 DLCNukaWorld.esm
7 7 TrueStormsFO4.esm
8 8 Homemaker.esm
9 9 ArmorKeywords.esm
10 a FCOM.esm
11 b BoS Pilot Outfit Fix.esp

12 c weightless verti grenades myown.esp
13 d CombatRifleEdit.esp
14 e Glorious_Glowing_Plasma_Weapons_by_Diranar.esp
15 f Bozar.esp
16 10 EasyHacking.esp
17 11 personalvertibird.esp

18 12 LoweredJetpakAPDrain.esp
19 13 RobotFactionPaint.esp
20 14 soakerfix.esp
21 15 Acid Soaker Redux.esp
22 16 Pacify_Reworked.esp
23 17 Permanent Pacification.esp
24 18 Better Burning Damage.esp
25 19 Better Burning Damage - Extra Long.esp
26 1a Shishkebab3xDMG.esp
27 1b Better Burning Damage - Powerful Shishkebab (3x).esp

28 1c LegendaryRarity25.esp
29 1d AS_CraftableInstituteStations.esp
30 1e GlovesOfTheCommonwealth.esp
31 1f 3dscopes.esp
32 20 3dscopes-AddToSpawnList.esp
33 21 grenarc.esp
34 22 Homing Beacon.esp
35 23 WOTC.esp

36 24 wotc remove minutemen attempt 2.esp
37 25 GunnersOverhaul.esp
38 26 FactionMaintenance.esp
39 27 VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp
40 28 BetterAutomatronWeapons.esp
41 29 CommChemExpanded.esp
42 2a AHPlus.esp
43 2b GammaGrenade.esp

44 2c NukaWorldBallisticWeaveSupport.esp
45 2d BetterSynthRelayGrenadesNoSquads.esp
Stealth Field Stability, A.esp
Stealth Field Stability, B.esp
46 2e no stealth ap drain.esp
47 2f FactionWorkers.esp
48 30 zBSRGSynthFactionsNoSquads.esp
49 31 Fast Firerate - Automatic Combat Shotgun.esp
50 32 Binary Speech Checks V.4.esp
51 33 DD_flag_poles.esp
52 34 WeightlessMods.esp

53 35 RestorePAFrames.esp
54 36 FoodGenerators.esp
55 37 WeightlessASG.esp
56 38 CGuard.esp
57 39 PortableFireworksGun.esp
58 3a VertibirdsAnywhereNukaWorldHotfix.esp
59 3b Nuka-Grenade Craft.esp
60 3c ImprovedNuke.esp
61 3d Better Homing Beacon.esp
62 3e VertibirdsAnywhere.esp
63 3f EnclaveX02.esp
64 40 IP4APA.esp
65 41 free_downgrades.esp
66 42 RecoillessRifle.esp
67 43 More Power Armour Mods.esp
68 44 FO4Hotkeys.esp
69 45 AdvSettleTurretSet-Real.esp
70 46 TakeCover.esp
71 47 EFF.esp

72 48 vulnerable raider settlers myown.esp
73 49 ExoticWorkshopCreatures.esp
74 4a InsElevator.esp
75 4b Prisoner Shackles.esp
76 4c TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
77 4d FactionSettlements.esp
78 4e Portable_Workshop_Enhanced.esp
79 4f FarHarborDecor.esp
80 50 WM_RecChair.esp
81 51 SettleObjExpandPack.esp
82 52 SettleObjExpandPack-AllLightShadowEnabler.esp
83 53 3DNPC_FO4.esp

84 54 Abduction.esp
85 55 FHLeveledListIntegration.esp
86 56 CF_AtomicWarlord.esp
87 57 AS_Institute_Workstations.esp
88 58 ENBLightsHDRPatch.esp
89 59 WestTekTacticalOptics.esp
90 5a subwayrunnnerdynamiclighting.esp
91 5b nvvault1080.esp

92 5c ExpandedBallisticWeave.esp
93 5d BoSGaussRifle.esp

94 5e Build High - Expanded Settlements.esp

95 5f America Rising - A Tale of the Enclave.esp

96 60 VertibirdOverhaulHackAndMark.esp

97 61 HomePlateWorkshopSettlement.esp
98 62 Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - Institute.esp
99 63 AA FusionCityRising.esp
100 64 OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
101 65 Firelance2.5.esp
102 66 SuperMutantOverhaul.esp

103 67 vertunlocksynthpilot.esp

104 68 Tesla X01.esp
105 69 X01Tesla-MPAM.esp
106 6a BetterCompanions.esp

107 6b PennsWoods.esp
108 6c Alien Encampments.esp
109 6d InstituteStory.esp
110 6e Institute Safe House.esp

111 6f Conquest.esp
112 70 ChinaLakeandHolorifle.esp
113 71 GrenadeExpansionPack.esp
114 72 CourserCrusher.esp
115 73 MakeYourOwnSynths.esp
116 74 Submarine Base Echo.esp
117 75 ellen.esp
118 76 Toggle Stealth Boy.esp
119 77 SettlementTeleporters.esp
120 78 BostonAirport.esp
121 79 CrudeBlowback.esp
122 7a CrudeBlowback-1.5xDMG.esp

123 7b StealthBoyMkII.esp
124 7c Nuka-World Collectable Markers.esp
125 7d FahrenheitComp.esp

126 7e FO4 NPCs Travel.esp
127 7f TeleportGrenade.esp
128 80 InstitutePowerArmor.esp
129 81 zIPA_BSRGEradicatorsNoSquads.esp
130 82 Firelance2.5Patches.esp
131 83 more minutemen fact tweaks.esp
132 84 Vertibird Alt Fix - Far Harbor.esp
133 85 Vertibird Gatling Laser_Both.esp
134 86 Institute Electrolasers Automatron.esp
135 87 Vertibird Gatling Laser - myedit institute blue.esp

136 88 vertibird institute attempt texture 2.esp

137 89 PiperEdit.esp
138 8a CutieCurie - Default.esp

139 8b Player Death - No Slowmo.esp
140 8c VATST_Targeting_Pause.esp
141 8d VATST_Stranger_Vanilla_x2.esp
142 8e CriticalHitsOutsideofVATS.esp
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143 8f roadflare.esp
144 90 3dscopes-FarHarbor.esp
145 91 3dscopes-NukaWorld.esp
146 92 3dscopes-framework.esp
147 93 MinigunDamage.esp
148 94 remove minutemen from workshopnpc and farmer faction.esp
149 95 LegendaryAllDifficulties3x.esp
150 96 4xEnemyDamage.esp

 

 

[sopmac45]

FO4 engine is not that friendly and the engine itself is probably the major cause of CTD's, especially when we load the game with too many mods that are known as "heavy" mods that could contribute to CTD's.

 

I saw your load order and I do not see the Unofficial FO4 patch; I also see that you have a lot of Vertibird mods and also you have WOTC ( I do too ). WOTC is a very heavy mod and it has been recommended by the author of this mod that in order to help the stability of your game, to turn off vertibird spawns ( did you do it ? ); at the same time, you have, as I said before, a lot of vertibird mods outside WOTC and they are not contributing to your game stability IMHO.

 

You have a lot of mods that I do not know if they are also over stressing your rig, like Build High and others in your list like Synths mods. LOOT is a good tool but what the author suggest in his/her mod description related to compatibility is what we should follow not what LOOT says. I do not know if you have followed their recommendations or not.

 

I have been researching about CTD's and there are some things that we can add to our .ini file to avoid crashes, like adding ( under General ), iPreloadSizeLimit=8388608000 ( assuming that you have 16 gb of RAM ) so this line will allocate 8gb of RAM because it is known that probably the game engine is consuming too much of RAM in certain places and by so, the game will crash. I have not use it though but it has been recommended by some players.

 

Also, go into Steam/Library/FO4, right click and go to Properties, Local Files and Validate the game files twice. This will help with stuttering and some crashes. Anytime you add a mod or remove a mod, I do this and it does help. Somehow, files are missed and that does not help. You need to recover those files. You can have the best rig out there but the engine of this game is not the best, so the only thing we can do ( IMHO ) is to install mods that are fully tested and according to the author' suggestions and if it is possible, one by one or 5 by 5 and find out which ones are contributing to our CTD's. I would not install Vertibird mods beside WOTC. They consume a lot of memory and your fps will drop and cause CTDs'.

[TheGadget1945]

I have that problem whenever I go near Greenetech Genetics/ Monsignor Plaza area. The only way I have found to overcome it is to use the TCL command or sometimes CTC if I have managed to get there before. Both methods have a 50% chance of working. It's especially bad with Railroad missions which go there a lot so I often just autocomplete the quest.

[choochoo1]

Out of curiosity are you getting a message after the crash or just a straight CTD?

Also, have you installed the Optimized textures? it really helped me with a lot of my issues, it didn't stop all my crashes, but it helped.

Are all your mnod's up to date, older mods can cause havoc if not updated to their latest versions?

 

 

and are you using the beyond the borders mod? that was causing ALOT of crashing for me.

[axfvh]

sorry for the delay, i forked an old save in the hopes that it would solve the problem. it did not, i still crash inevitably in the city areas.

 

i don't use the unofficial patch as i've heard it conflicts with a lot of things

 

no message, it just straight out closes

 

no beyond the borders

 

i will try the ini thing, edit it didn't work

 

now it's crashing when i try to fast travel from an area but also happens if i stay around there, effectively stranding me in a city block

Edited August 29, 2017 by axfvh