Korodic Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 i ASK EVERYONE WHO DOWNLOADS MY MOD TO REPAY ME. IS THAT WRONG? By contributing back free content and help for the rest of the community as I have with a best effort. Endorsements are a great way to know that my work is appreciated, but even mentioning it should be bannable on the mod page. People should know to endorse what they like or liked. We do not need people spamming that crap. Again, I will reference youtube, how many people vomit "Rate Comment Subscribe" in their (1) video (2) description (3) Channel (4) channel picture. Or even messaging people with the "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" mentality. We are better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunnie Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 It's called "the snowball effect". When one modder begs and pleads for endorsements, soon, everyone does because they feel thats the only way they will get them. And, when one modder asks for donations, soon all will and you no longer really have a free modding community. AKA Camel's nose. AKA Slippery Slope, etc. Yes, I'm familiar with that mental defect. This is what people argue when they don't really know what they're talking about. Yes it is, but it is a fact of life. People are afraid of that stuff, and it does happen, which is why the terms exists in the first place.My post above just outlines the overall sense of direction I have seen from this community (been around here for a very long time), and what they are trying to prevent. The term "better safe than sorry" has some pretty significant causes throughout human history. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBaron Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Again I am going to say that there are LOTS of things that some people might find annoying. What if Anime' mods get most of the endorsements? Will all modders start making Anime' mods, thus making the whole nexus annoying to ME? A 'rule' banning the practice of reminding people that endorsements are nice because it is annoying and if one person does it everyone might do it... why, it could snowball into the banning of Anime' mods, I tell you! :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmanners Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 People are afraid of that stuff, and it does happen, which is why the terms exists in the first place.My post above just outlines the overall sense of direction I have seen from this community (been around here for a very long time), and what they are trying to prevent. The term "better safe than sorry" has some pretty significant causes throughout human history. :thumbsup: People are afraid of it? Why? It does me no harm. Heck, I prefer people who SPAM and SHOUT for attention. That usefully tells me that I should avoid their "work" like the plague. Why would I want to discourage that activity? I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't download mods based on number of endorsements. I sometimes sort mods by number of downloads, but only when I'm just looking for something to surprise myself with. No, I usually go by whether the description fits with whatever it is that I'm looking for. Endorsements are just a nice little pat on the back for the modder. They don't really mean anything. That said, I always give endorsements if I like a mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunnie Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Well, it really doesn't matter what anyone's opinion of the rules are, they are what they are. Robin owns the site, and he made the rules, there's no real use in discussing or complaining about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBaron Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Well, it really doesn't matter what anyone's opinion of the rules are, they are what they are. Robin owns the site, and he made the rules, there's no real use in discussing or complaining about it. Perhaps Robin (whom I otherwise do quite like) had Indigestion when he came up with that rule, and was feeling a bit grumpy. Otherwise: Some people make very lovely sheep, don't you think? :wub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeTheDragon Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) As it was always Bethesda not looking very friendly down on donation links in relation to mod downloads which made this specific rule come up to begin with, and now that Curse and Steam seem to be doing it excessively, I'm looking forward for a final public decision from Bethesda's end, for "all" to obey to, no more legal grey zones, senseless "but they're doing it, so it must be allowed, why aren't you?" complaints, a definite final answer once and for all. Maybe then this nonsense complaining, whining, fighting, and wildly speculating about where specific rules were coming from and why exactly they're in place, will finally have an end... ...at least in this one specific regard that is... oh well. Edited March 9, 2012 by DrakeTheDragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatalmasterpiece Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I used to care what other people put in thier mod description, then I took an arrow to the knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousMrBear Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 I have no problem with a sentance at a top of a page ;) Not gonna ruin my day. I'll be honest- I am one of those annoying users who downloads something, uses it constantly, and loves it, yet never endorses. I write personal thankyou's more than I endorse. Its a tiny little button on the screen and I forget! When people mention it is something they like, I think "well this guy has made my game that much better, why not?". When its on a mod that I don't like, it doesnt send me into a fit of rage either, so why not? I don't think it has any impact on the community other than reminding them that mod authors like to be appreciated. I guess "endorse = updates" is a little superficial but ultimately, if your doing this for endorsements, why NOT ask for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltucu Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) Well, it really doesn't matter what anyone's opinion of the rules are, they are what they are. Robin owns the site, and he made the rules, there's no real use in discussing or complaining about it.The whole anti "money for mods" thing, even donations, is not like that because Robin himself is against such act, but because Bethesda's doesnt likes modders making money out of modding (even in "donation" form). To keep good relations with Beth, Dark0ne put such rule in the Nexus, and if im not mistaken, he implied thats why we havent seen modding competitions with money prizes sponsored by the Nexus alone before (the whole Dovahkiin Hideout author issue was related to that) So the "slippery slope that will take our freedom" theory seems to be unrelated actually. While the endorse and you get updates thing does seems to be "superficial" its true i think that said modder wont be able to say "Well, since i didnt get the endorsements, you get nothing!" and then expect ppl to download his stuff ever again. Im pretty sure its kinda a douche move that even plain users wont tolerate. Just imagine, if there are users demanding mod authors to stop doing anime and nude mods to redirect their effort into "realistic" stuff, what kind of madness such act could unleash in the forums? Edited March 14, 2012 by eltucu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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